The Kennedy's

[Nowhere Man]

Anyone seen it? I just watched the whole series over the past week. I think that for the most part, it was good. The cast was unbelievable. Greg Kinear, wow! There were times when I thought the President was still alive playing himself. Kinear really sold the part. Barry Pepper, another great actor. A surprise was Katie Holmes, she gets a bad rap for being a bad actress, but I was impressed.

I don't know how accurate this was, but most of it was things we pretty much already knew. I'm sure there was a bit of creativity there as usual. A lot of times we put historical figures on a pedestal, but with John Kennedy, I really feel like he was as great as we like to think of him. Despite his " lust" for women, it seemed like he really was a great guy who cared very much for his country. It seemed like prior to the assassination, he was moving beyond his vices and was beginning to turn his marriage around. I also noticed that he weighed his options very well and made good decisions on policy, he was very diplomatic, but decisive.

The thing I didn't really like was they didn't talk about the space race much and they didn't really tell us much about what we don't already know, also, I didn't see Ted Kennedy once.

Jackie Kennedy had the strongest will power I've ever seen, its no wonder so many women admire her.

They really made Marylin Monroe out to be an obsessed dumbass.

Overall, I think it was really good, as I said Kinear was spot on, perhaps better than Bruce Greenwood.

Thoughts?

 

[Tom Servo]

I caught a few parts of it. I thought it seemed decent. However I do have to disagree with Greg Kinnear. While he looked the part, for some reason I didn't feel that authoritative presence that other actors brought to the part, especially Bruce Greenwood, who I thought was fantastic in Thirteen Days. Granted I haven't watched the whole thing, and should at some point. I did watch the Cuban Missile Crisis episode, just to compare it to Thirteen Days, and I liked Greenwood's portrayal better.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

IMHO, Andrew Robinson is the definitive fictional portrayal of JFK.

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[auntiehill]

THE KENNEDYS. It's a plural, as in "more than one." No apostrophe is needed. Sorry, but that just bothers me.

Kinnear was OK, but I thought Greenwood in Thirteen Days, and Martin Sheen, in the 1983 miniseries "Kennedy", did it better.

 

[J.T.B.]

THE KENNEDYS. It's a plural, as in "more than one." No apostrophe is needed. Sorry, but that just bothers me.

When you get people straightened out on the possessive/plural thing, will you start working on the possessive pronouns vs. contractions?!



Justin

 

[Nowhere Man]

THE KENNEDYS. It's a plural, as in "more than one." No apostrophe is needed. Sorry, but that just bothers me.

When you get people straightened out on the possessive/plural thing, will you start working on the possessive pronouns vs. contractions?!



Justin

That's great feedback, really. Now tell me what you thought of the series.

 

[auntiehill]

THE KENNEDYS. It's a plural, as in "more than one." No apostrophe is needed. Sorry, but that just bothers me.

When you get people straightened out on the possessive/plural thing, will you start working on the possessive pronouns vs. contractions?!



Justin

Sure.

It's a plural---it is a plural. A contraction.
Its shirt is blue--A possessive pronoun, like his or hers. No apostrophe.
Mystery solved.

Back on topic---I didn't think the mini-series was that great, but it wasn't that bad, either. Like Tom Servo said, Kinnear just didn't seem to have the dramatic presence that I would have liked, and like Nowhere Man, I would have liked a little attention paid to the space race.

 

[Starkers]

I saw it last year and I thought it was really good and really well cast. I thought Kinnear and Barry Pepper were both really good, and yeah Katie Holmes is never going to be one of the acting greats, but she isn't as terrible as people make her out to be, and I thought she made a very good Jackie. Props as well to Tom wilkinson as Pa Kennedy as well.

I liked that it dealt with things I'd never really been aware of such as the amount of pain JFK was in from his war wound, and in particular the fact that their sister was lobotomised. That really did make what happened to Joe poetic justice.

Obviously there were historical innacuracies and they seemed to imply a lot (that Bobby was in love with Jackie for example)

I would have liked to have seen more about Bobby after JFK died, seemed like that rushed that and showhorned it all into one episode but I can understand why they did it.

 

[Yevetha]

Why was this cancelled?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Why were Ted Kennedy and the Chappaquiddick incident omitted? Smacks of Stalinist revisionism to me.

 

[J.T.B.]

That's great feedback, really. Now tell me what you thought of the series.

Sorry, it was a joke. And I have no interest in seeing the series.



Justin

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Why was this cancelled?

It was a miniseries, not an ongoing series.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Why was this cancelled?

It was a miniseries, not an ongoing series.

Yeah, but it never aired either IIRC. The Kennedy family thought it put them in a bad light from what I remember.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Why was this cancelled?

It was a miniseries, not an ongoing series.

Yeah, but it never aired either IIRC. The Kennedy family thought it put them in a bad light from what I remember.

It was aired on Reelz.

Which basically means no one saw it. But it was aired.

 

[Yevetha]

Why was this cancelled?

It was a miniseries, not an ongoing series.

Yeah, but it never aired either IIRC. The Kennedy family thought it put them in a bad light from what I remember.

The Habsburgs never do that.

 

[auntiehill]

I saw it, but I had to go looking for it. It certainly wasn't that great, or revealing, in my opinion.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

It was aired on Reelz.

Which basically means no one saw it. But it was aired.

Yeah, the History Channel in the US buckled to pressure from the Kennedy family and pulled it from their schedule and it ended up airing on Reelz in the US. The History Channel UK, however, went ahead and showed the mini as planned.

 

[scotpens]

THE KENNEDYS. It's a plural, as in "more than one." No apostrophe is needed. Sorry, but that just bothers me.

Me too, grammar Nazi that I am. It’s like “Chevys” or “Mercurys.” The plural of a proper noun is formed by simply adding “s” or “es” to the singular.

Kinnear was OK, but I thought Greenwood in Thirteen Days, and Martin Sheen, in the 1983 miniseries "Kennedy", did it better.

Some actors just seem born to play Kennedys. In the 1974 TV-movie The Missiles of October, Sheen played Bobby Kennedy — and JFK was played by William Devane, an actor who looks like all the Kennedy men.

 

[Starkers]

It was aired on Reelz.

Which basically means no one saw it. But it was aired.

Yeah, the History Channel in the US buckled to pressure from the Kennedy family and pulled it from their schedule and it ended up airing on Reelz in the US. The History Channel UK, however, went ahead and showed the mini as planned.

And eventually the BBC showed it here as well, which was when I caught it.

 

[Nowhere Man]

It was aired on Reelz.

Which basically means no one saw it. But it was aired.

Yeah, the History Channel in the US buckled to pressure from the Kennedy family and pulled it from their schedule and it ended up airing on Reelz in the US. The History Channel UK, however, went ahead and showed the mini as planned.

*Johnny Carson voice* I did not know that.

I agree, it wasen't that revealing, I still maintain it was a great cast though.

Maybe Bruce was a better Jack than Kinnear, but I need to rewatch 13 Days. Costner was really good in his role in that one.