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The Kelvin's uniforms

I think it would be cool if the Kelvin crew was wearing ENT-style uniforms, or at least ENT-inspired ones from after TATV. It'd be fun for fans, although they may look too different from the XI uniforms.
 
Given that the events involving the Kelvin may take place a decade or more prior to the events seen in "The Cage", and given the real-world tendency for uniform styles to undergo drastic change, often in non-linear fashion, over relatively short periods (let alone such changes seen in the Star Trek universe, such as the one from TMP to TWoK) the uniforms we see worn by Robau's crew could just as logically be completely different from the uniforms worn by Pike's crew as they could be closely similar.

I'm not seeing this as a huge deal, one way or the other, so long as they're not glaringly out of place like something belonging to a Star Wars or BSG universe.
A decade or more before The Cage? The Cage was more than a decade before TOS, and Kirk was 34 (+/-) in TOS. Doesn't really add up.
Doesn't it?

Though it's admittedly not an ironclad source, the EW article gives the time of the attack on the Kelvin (with George Kirk, Sr. aboard) as being "before Kirk is even born". Even giving EW a reasonable margin for embroidery in the interest of selling magazines and ad-views, it seems in the ballpark to me.
 
As we all know by now, the USS Kelvin is "from a generation before the Enterprise".
So that means that the uniforms worn by Capt. Robau & Co. will be very (or slightly) different from the ones Quinto, Pine and the others are wearing in this recent batch of photos.
Any thoughts on how they'll look like?
"The Cage" inspired, maybe?
hang on im confused, why just becasue the ship is old, does that mean its crew would not wear the new uniforms supplied by starfleet, unless this part of the movie is set before most of it, or they have been lost in space for a few years so they crew have not had chance to take on new uniforms, ala Voyager.
 
If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

I seem to recall an interview where they said that by the end everything would be closer to the way TOS fans remembered, and I thought this was in reference to uniforms and the bridge. I won't be surprised if Kirk's Dad wears an older style uniform.

In any case, Enterprise NX-01 and Columbia NX-02 had zeros in them, so why not Kelvin's number? If JJ didn't have a "0" people would claim he was ignoring ENT canon.
 
I could see Starfleet thinking "we'll have more ships than nine!" when giving the registries to the Enterprise and the Columbia, but correspondingly not thinking "we'll have more ships than 999!" when registering the Grissom...

Then again, if people don't like the idea of NCC-0514, they can always say the Kelvin is NCC-O514. No character on screen is likely to pronounce the "zero" or "ough" anyway, so the verbal form of registry will still be simple 514; whether one adds the TAS-style definer "O for Observation" would be a matter of personal preference, and perhaps George Kirk doesn't prefer to.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Uniforms from Enterprise almost 100 years after that show took place? Dunno about that. A T'Pol cameo? Why???
 
If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.

It was driven into the ground about 50 of your posts ago....You are now approaching Earths core....:techman:


I hope they'll be similar to those from The Cage. Actually, I would've liked to see design in general (of the Enterprise bridge and the uniforms we've seen) be more like those from The Cage, but I guess they were shooting for familiarity with the main run of TOS.

...Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.
There's nothing inherently wrong with either one... and we don't even know for a fact yet that the Kelvin has one nacelle.


Where the hell could a possible second nacelled be hiding?

That's where the 0 in the registry comes into play. It retracts and the second nacelle springs out of there.
Mass shifting is involved.:techman:
 
If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.

I was gonna ask you about that. It really pisses you off, doesn't it? :p
 
The Kelvin with its .... registry starting with zero are proof of that.

I think that 0514, rather than 514, is more immediately recognizable as a lower number than 1701. There no doubt is a reason that the registry starts with zero, and it is clear you don't like that, but that doesn't mean Abrams and company don't know what they're doing or haven't thought things through.

Actualy it's a sign they have.
 
If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.

Indeed. Nothing says "future" like sweaters.

Velour sweaters.
You guys say this like we were given an absolute choice between "velour" and "funky, expensive fabric with useless little chevrons on it."

There are a lot of other choices available which have little, if anything, to do with EITHER of those. And would still have given us uniforms which were, in every significant way, the original TOS uniforms.

Actually, my only quibbles with the "new" uniforms fall into the stupid fabric thing, and the replacement of the gold details with silver ones. I like the old gold-braid and the gold chest insignia. I can't see any rationale for making them silver instead of gold... except to "change things just because we can." (Oh, and the "sleeveless uniforms" for THE WOMEN seem to be there just to make them look more like "sexy little nightclub outfits." I hope we see at least a few skirt-uniforms with long sleeves... )

The idea of "black undershirts and colored overshirts" isn't something new... that's canon, from the original series (though it was lost in a number of the "Kirk shirt-ripping" bits). So that part is really great to see, IMHO.
 
Im expecting jumpsuits, SeaQuest style with flashes of colour denoting which department your from
 
I hope they'll be similar to those from The Cage. Actually, I would've liked to see design in general (of the Enterprise bridge and the uniforms we've seen) be more like those from The Cage, but I guess they were shooting for familiarity with the main run of TOS.

...Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.
There's nothing inherently wrong with either one... and we don't even know for a fact yet that the Kelvin has one nacelle.


Where the hell could a possible second nacelled be hiding?
It's in JJ Abrams' house. He broke it off the model to piss you off. That's also why he added a zero to the registry number, changed the bridge and uniforms.
If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.

Indeed. Nothing says "future" like sweaters.

:guffaw: QFT...QFT!
 
^^^

I think it is quite likely that the gold details didn't look good or stand out enough on-screen with the new yellow/gold/avocado command uniforms.

Besides, the Starfleet/Enterprise chevron was small and silver during The Cage, so a color change isn't a big deal.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x00/thecage018.jpg
Must be another one of those "noncalibrated eyeballs" things... because that arrowhead, in that image, sure looks gold to me.
 
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