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The Inhumans Marvel/IMAX

JD said:
Marvel.com has posted a cast/character guide with desctiptions of all of the main characters, which once again specifically describes their powers and describes Lockjaw as a 2000lb dog and their actors. Making it pretty damn clear to anyone who's unbiased and actually paying attention that those things will be a part of the show. I like how they have Lockjaw as playing himself. I wonder if that'll actually be included in the credits that way?
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Oh, so the guy who made what is probably going to be the first critical flop for the Netflix shows was forced to put something from the Inhumans into a show called Inhumans. They could have the dog and all the Inhuman powers powers and it could still be "grounded". Man of Steel was "grounded", and that had a guy who could fly. That said, they still don't have costumes, or really anything that resembles the Inhumans except names and a dog who might only be in the pilot and will certainly be a "grounded" version, and almost certainly something forced on the guy who doesn't think superheroes should have anything unrealistic based on his IF stuff.

Also, everyone has a bias. You're just as biased as I am, you just have a different bias then I do. I have a bias against "grounded" superhero shows, the MCU Netflix shows and the idiots who make the "grounded" Netflix shows. Based on Iron Fist's reception, if Inhumans is not literally the worst Marvel production, it will be a "win" for Marvel. There is no saving Inhumans now, since the MCU will hopefully never reboot they have lost their chance to adapt Inhumans. But, hopefully they fire the idiot in charge so something good can come of this terrible missed opportunity.
 
And teleport-fetch!

Aaaaand now I want to see him playing with Nightcrawler around Atillan

Hugo - go get it!
 
Alidar Jarok said:
More specifically, there's a story in Thing issue #3 where Quicksilver finds out his daughter, Luna, has no mutant powers. He's upset by this and decides to expose her to Terrigen despite Crystal's desires to the contrary because you have no idea how Luna will turn out. Pietro says he'll love his daughter no matter what, which prompts Lockjaw to say "even if she comes out looking like me?"

Apparently, Peter Allen David didn't like this story, so he retconned it to be a practical joke played by Karnak and Gorgon (they hid a speaker on Lockjaw so he could "speak"). That was the last word on the subject, but it hasn't necessarily satisfied everyone.
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Well, IIRC the reason why others at Marvel didn't like that idea was because they didn't get why Lockjaw acted like a Dog when he wasn't and why the other Inhumans treated him like a Dog instead of as an equal.

Making it a practical joke really messes with the poignancy of that moment IMO, so it can be rationalized that Karnak and Gorgon didn't want Pietro to go through with exposing Luna and did so to convince him not to.
 
Anwar said:
Well, IIRC the reason why others at Marvel didn't like that idea was because they didn't get why Lockjaw acted like a Dog when he wasn't and why the other Inhumans treated him like a Dog instead of as an equal.

Making it a practical joke really messes with the poignancy of that moment IMO, so it can be rationalized that Karnak and Gorgon didn't want Pietro to go through with exposing Luna and did so to convince him not to.
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The question remains, where did Lockjaw come from if he's not an Inhuman? The Terrigen Mists only work on humans who were experimented on by Kree. Where/how did Lockjaw get his powers?
 
Turtletrekker said:
Actually, it wasn't Peter David that didn't like the idea it was the editors at Marvel.


http://www.peterdavid.net/archives/002778.html
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Fair enough. Geoffrey Thorne, writer of the new book Mosaic has given a lot of his thoughts - basically it's a very touching moment that is completely undercut. He takes the position that Lockjaw is an Inhuman who is so transformed it affects the way he thinks (and that affects how others think about him). His brain patterns are far more dog-like because of Terrigenesis. Also, Karnak and Gorgon aren't exactly big practical jokers.

Nerys Myk said:
The question remains, where did Lockjaw come from if he's not an Inhuman? The Terrigen Mists only work on humans who were experimented on by Kree. Where/how did Lockjaw get his powers?
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Before I heard Thorne's argument, not having read the original story, I thought it was fine either way. The argument in favor of Lockjaw being an Inhuman is that there are other weird transformations - doors and engines being two big ones. But I can see the powered dog thing. To me, the key is that Inhumans were created during around the same time as the domestication of dogs. I have no problem with the idea of domesticated dogs being modified as well. The big issue is why there weren't other Inhuman-dogs (Indogs? Inhudogs?). But the addition of Reader's dog, Forey, could possibly address that (assuming he's not powered/created by Reader).
 
kirk55555 said:
Oh, so the guy who made what is probably going to be the first critical flop for the Netflix shows was forced to put something from the Inhumans into a show called Inhumans. They could have the dog and all the Inhuman powers powers and it could still be "grounded". Man of Steel was "grounded", and that had a guy who could fly. That said, they still don't have costumes, or really anything that resembles the Inhumans except names and a dog who might only be in the pilot and will certainly be a "grounded" version, and almost certainly something forced on the guy who doesn't think superheroes should have anything unrealistic based on his IF stuff.
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Where the hell are you getting this shit. Nobody has ever said Inhumans will be grounded, and Scott Buck has never said that he only does grounded superhero shows. All that we know is that they decided not to go real far into the mystical stuff in Iron Fist, which really does make sense since the other Netflix shows have stayed very grounded. But IF isn't entirely grounded, in the trailers alone we've seen several shots of Danny using his powers, and CBR or one of the other sites had a line from an episode where Danny referred to meeting a dragon, so the mystical stuff is there, it's just not a focus of the first season. Just because he decided to take that approach for Iron Fist doesn't mean he'll take the same one with Inhumans.
Also, everyone has a bias. You're just as biased as I am, you just have a different bias then I do. I have a bias against "grounded" superhero shows, the MCU Netflix shows and the idiots who make the "grounded" Netflix shows. Based on Iron Fist's reception, if Inhumans is not literally the worst Marvel production, it will be a "win" for Marvel. There is no saving Inhumans now, since the MCU will hopefully never reboot they have lost their chance to adapt Inhumans. But, hopefully they fire the idiot in charge so something good can come of this terrible missed opportunity.
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I never said I didn't have biases, but I don't really have one either way with Inhumans, I really don't know what to expect from it at this point. I'm just not going to jump to ridiculous assumptions that someone who actually paid attention what was really coming out from the show could tell had no basis in reality whatsoever.
 
JD said:
Where the hell are you getting this shit. Nobody has ever said Inhumans will be grounded, and Scott Buck has never said that he only does grounded superhero shows. All that we know is that they decided not to go real far into the mystical stuff in Iron Fist, which really does make sense since the other Netflix shows have stayed very grounded. But IF isn't entirely grounded, in the trailers alone we've seen several shots of Danny using his powers, and CBR or one of the other sites had a line from an episode where Danny referred to meeting a dragon, so the mystical stuff is there, it's just not a focus of the first season. Just because he decided to take that approach for Iron Fist doesn't mean he'll take the same one with Inhumans.
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He doesn't have to say it. You don't go from "grounded" to the superhero stuff the MCU does (at this point marvel netflix isn't really the MCU, so I'm just going to call it Marvel netflix). But, at this point, the fact that IF is looking terrible even for a Marvel netflix show is also a huge red flag for Inhumans, even if I didn't consider it already dead. Even if Inhumans only has terrible writing, bland characters and terrible fight scenes like a lot of reviews say IF has, that's bad enough without the grounded stuff.

Anyway, like I've said, I've written the show off. Arguing over a dead show feels a bit pointless. I'll give episode one a hate watch because I like the Inhumans too much not too, but I'm expecting something that makes Fant4stic look like a good comic adaptation.
 
JD said:
Where would you guys recommend someone who has never read any Inhuman comics start?
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Turtletrekker said:
I would suggest going back to the very beginning...

https://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Four-Masterworks-Vol-1961-1998-ebhttps://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Four-Masterworks-Vol-1961-1998-ebook/dp/B00PSN1GLG/ref=sr_1_4_twi_kin_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488922460&sr=8-4&keywords=fantastic+four+masterworksook/dp/B00PSN1GLG/ref=sr_1_4_twi_kin_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488922460&sr=8-4&keywords=fantastic+four+masterworks

This volume would also give you the first appearances of Galactus and the Silver Surfer.
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JD, FYI-- At the time of this posting, this volume, and many other Lee/Kirby Masterwork Editions, are at half price ($8.50).
 
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Not the best picture but if you zoom in it looks more like some kind of band than dye. Not seeing the vertical strands seen in the rest of her hair but again the resolution ain't great.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
Not the best picture but if you zoom in it looks more like some kind of band than dye. Not seeing the vertical strands seen in the rest of her hair but again the resolution ain't great.
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Okay, I'll take your word for it. It just looked to me like the color faded toward the bottom, so I figured it was dyed in.
 
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