That's exactly what I was saying. Nowhere in my post did I say shut up and get out.
Those exact words were not used, no. But it's heavily inferred, since you would prefer that I shut up until I've seen the episode for myself, and then you go on to tell me what you would prefer I talk about.
I repeat: I do not need your permission. To tell someone to "watch it before you talk about it" is hypocritical, given the vast number of posts on this forum made by people who haven't seen or read what they're talking about. Have I told everyone who hasn't read the novel to be quiet about it until they have read it? No. I've corrected some misinformation, but I don't recall telling anyone not to talk about it. I also haven't told anyone not to mention what they might have seen or heard on other sites. If anyone is raising points elsewhere that aren't being raised here, I'd like to know about it, whether it's a video, article, or whatever. If that's not something you're into, you have the option of ignoring that part of the conversation. And this is a
fan site, so the
fan experience is a valid topic.
I get enough information from the reviews (some of which do include clips) and promos to have a pretty good idea what happens in the episodes before I see them. In some cases it's been a good thing to have advance warning since some of the material is very disturbing.
So I think that gives me enough to go on to be able to contribute
something to a conversation here. You'll notice that I do come back after seeing it and add more. Sometimes the rest of you explain things or address my points and sometimes you just completely ignore what I've said.
I don't understand how you can't see that this would be extremely frustrating. It was even worse last season when Canada was 10 days behind the Hulu upload, rather than just 4-5 days like it is now.
As for my mentions of YT... this is one of those shows that many people talk about from more points of view than I'm likely to get from a science fiction forum. They have insights I wouldn't get otherwise, and since some of those people don't have a lot of SF reading in their backgrounds, I have insights to offer them that they wouldn't otherwise have known.
And we've already had the timeline argument here, so it's not just on YT.
I want to talk about this. I really like the fact that Gilead is shown to be multiracial. It lets the show focus on Women's issues, without being accused of ignoring racial issues since they don't set them up in the first place. Also from a logical standpoint, Gilead's support seems to have come from many sectors of society, and if Black churches were measurable early supporters of the Sons of Jacob (whose initial public views we can assume were less extreme) then a multiracial non racist Gilead makes perfect sense. I also like the fact that the villains on the show aren't laughably evil in every decision they make. Not racist, and environmentalist are the two most obvious. Gives them just a modicum of nuance, enough to keep them from being cliche mustache twirlers.
They might have supported them, but consider this: In the novel, Gilead is all-white. There are no black people, no Asian people, no visibly-Hispanic people, nor even any Jewish people. All were expelled, either to the Colonies, or elsewhere. Offred's opinion is that they were probably just rounded up and killed. Consider also that most of the non-white people we've seen in the TV series are in low-ranking positions. So it doesn't look like Gilead can claim racial equality as one of its virtues.
There's controversy over whether this aspect of the novel should have been kept to further show how evil Gilead really is, that it's obviously not fertility itself that's the primary reason this is happening, but that it's
white fertility at issue.
However, this would have gone over like a neutronium balloon for modern audiences, so TPTB opted to have a multiracial/multi-ethnic cast to show that yes, it is fertility that matters. After all, there are many other ways to show how evil Gilead is.
