The Hand of Omega and the U.N.I.T. Years.

[Guy Gardener]

The whole time during that run about with Omega, the "Doctors" had the first Timelords stellar converter which could have done some nasty business to Omega's little antimatter universe or in any number of any other many adventures used the hand as a weapon to knock back space fleets or just as a power source to help fix his broken TARDIS.

Good Times.

 

[The Badger]

Ah, no. The first Doctor left it on Earth in 1963, before the events of An Unearthly Child. The seventh used it a few days later against the Daleks. After which, if memory serves, it returned to Gallifrey.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Bugger.

I have not been getting enough sleep.

Although quantum entanglement and Schrodinger would suggest that it was both there and not there until he took it or didn't take it when ever he didn't already know that he had already taken it in the same way that Sutek was able to rip the atmosphere off the planet in the 1930s, leaving behind a barren cursed earth come the 1980s if the Doctor and Sarah Jane didn't wrought him.

At the very least he might have gone to get the device only to discover that the hand had already been recovered by "someone" claiming to be him if the Timelords didn't scrub the existence, location and his involvement with the museum piece from his mind too.

Gotta wonder if he "stole" the Hand of Omega on purpose, or it was just something he and the Master/Susan (I think they're possibly the same Timelord.) just found in a cargo bay or safe by chance after boosting "their" TARDIS.

 

[Skellington]

Gotta wonder if he "stole" the Hand of Omega on purpose, or it was just something he and the Master/Susan (I think they're possibly the same Timelord.) just found in a cargo bay or safe by chance after boosting "their" TARDIS.

Now THAT's a theory that I hadn't heard before.

The Hand Of Omega was possibly a careless retcon, but then again now that the TARDIS can tow a planet across the galaxy and eat a star just to send a message, it seems that the Hand Of Omega and any other Doomsday Devices (ahem) from the show's first run are pretty much redundant. Suspension of disbelief, I guess.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The TARDIS was super charged by the daleks Super weapon when it was towing the earth... And the rift? It was a very special one time ever confluences but truly the real trick was keep the world habitable while all this was going on.

The Doctor clearly said that he and the Master ran away together "when we were just kids, barely 90" and closed up the Medusa cascade where the Daleks would build their crucible one day eventually. It was the two of them who ran away in the first place, not him and Susan. Either time had been changed, or the Doctor ran away twice, or Susan is the Master.

Can you imagine John Simm running up to her old friends for a big sloppy hug saying, almost crying to Ian and Barbara "It's me: SUSAN!"

 

[Skellington]

Either time had been changed, or the Doctor ran away twice, or Susan is the Master.

I don't know what RTD was thinking, but I'd go with the second one. He was almost certainly several hundred years old in An Unearthly Child, and seemed to be still bitter and on edge. Also, the Master was originally a boy (slightly older than the Doctor according to The Deadly Assassin (novelisation)) and I'm pretty sure that Susan really was the Doctor's granddaughter.

Can you imagine John Simm running up to her old friends for a big sloppy hug saying, almost crying to Ian and Barbara "It's me: SUSAN!"

Easily! That doesn't sound very like the Moff, though.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In one of the Pertwee episodes, might have been Ambassadors, in a Fluster the Doctor claims that he has been a scietist for thousands of years...

But according to the black scrolls, that big book with the hologram of the seal of Rassilon on it, the first life of a time lord is normalish, it's not till after the nanites/virus start working post mortem that they are given superduper godlike bodies rebuilt after a pitiful humanlike life and a humanesque death... Romana was a hundred and 25 when she met the Doctor and they're discussing their relative educations.

Do boys and girls "age" differently on Gallerfry since they do seem to regenerate differently?

 

[The Badger]

But according to the black scrolls...

Er, the Black Scrolls were a repository of forbidden knowledge detailing the exceses Time Lords committed during the Dark Times (in CAPITALS).

Unless you're thinking about The Galifrey Chronicles by John Peel, which did put that idea forward. Personally I reject that concept as it's A) not canon, and B) dull. The whole 'regeneration as a result of nano-technology' explanation is just too mundane for Doctor Who.

Likewise, the concept that Time Lords have only one heart until a second is built during the first regeneration is just a bit of fanwank to explain how in an early story (I think The Sensorites) Ian checks the unconscious Doctor and says that his heart beat, singular, is OK. There are other, equally valid explanations. Perhaps Ian only checked where you'd expect to find a heart beat, like you would, and didn't go searching round willy nilly on the off chance there was a second one. Or perhaps the Doctor, being old and in poor health, had had a heart attack and was running on just the one.

Furthermore, the fact that Jenny is created with two hearts does strongly support that this is normal for Gallifreyans.