In my opinion the quality of television has taken a precipitous drop in quality this decade--shows are nowhere as good as they were in the 80s or 90s--
I can't stand it--it exemplifies this decade's fascination with unlikeable asshole angsty characters. Plus it is cut from the same cloth as other predictably boring procedural plots of the week. No thanks.Wow, I'm stunned that (unless I missed it) nobody nominated House.![]()
I can't stand it--it exemplifies this decade's fascination with unlikeable asshole angsty characters. Plus it is cut from the same cloth as other predictably boring procedural plots of the week. No thanks.Wow, I'm stunned that (unless I missed it) nobody nominated House.![]()
I honestly have to say tv/films are actually really worse than the 80s and 90s. They rarely even try that's why so many shows get canned so quickly these days because even the networks deep down inside know that it is crap but they can't have dead air.I don't think overall TV is any better or worse, there's just a hell of a lot more to sift through to find the good shows. Who knows how many channels in the US making original content? At least 15 I can think of in the UK, without counting what's made elsewhere. Some of the highest quality TV ever made has been made over the last decade, also a load of shit. So unless you know what shows you're looking for you might just spot the shit and be convinced that is the entire output of TV.
Lost would've been my number one but not with its finale.
I'll say Dexter.
I honestly have to say tv/films are actually really worse than the 80s and 90s. They rarely even try that's why so many shows get canned so quickly these days because even the networks deep down inside know that it is crap but they can't have dead air.I don't think overall TV is any better or worse, there's just a hell of a lot more to sift through to find the good shows. Who knows how many channels in the US making original content? At least 15 I can think of in the UK, without counting what's made elsewhere. Some of the highest quality TV ever made has been made over the last decade, also a load of shit. So unless you know what shows you're looking for you might just spot the shit and be convinced that is the entire output of TV.
I watched a lot of shows in the 80s and 90s and the shows were more consistent--you didn't have one great season then several really bad ones.
And shows these days are far too derivative--not just recycling from shows from 10 or 20 years ago but they ape heavily from their contemporaries. I first noticed this with ENT's first two seasons where they just stole story ideas we had seen on other Trek shows and ENT didn't do it any better. Fringe does it as well in its attempt to be an X-Files clone. In the 80s and 90s I could watch several shows and each of them were offering up their own new storylines.
Also this decade has drifted towards complex storytelling but most shows do it badly and it ends up as a convoluted mess rather than a brilliantly complex narrative. They cram far too many plots into the show and the episodes themselves leading to very little time or development being allowed on either the plot or the characters--and for me as a result I can't really bond with the character I just see them as plot devices and a lot of things that would have been dramatized onscreen are left up to the viewer to conjure up.
Then there has been the backlash to a lack of character deaths in earlier decades by 00 shows where they have gone so far in the other direction by killing off tons of characters--which I guess can be okay but the net effect is that character deaths rarely these days carry the shock or emotional impact as they once did. BSG got really bad about this in its last few seasons.
Another trait I can't stand about shows in the 00s is the overly pretentious air about a lot of them(BSG, Caprica, Mad Men). Instead of being thoughtful entertainment they come across as more of a dull academic exercise--to me they try too hard to convince the viewers that they are watching high art that is extremely "deep".
Maybe they'll be a swing back to more quality entertainment but I'm not holding out much hope.
Actually I rewatch a lot of these shows right now--I'm not just relying on nostalgic memories from waaaay back when I first watched them but I'm re-evaluating them with years and years of exposure to a lot of shows since I first watched them--and they are still better even put under my more critical jaded eye compared to contemporary shows. In fact, the whole recycled issue I bring up is due to these modern shows' storylines reminding me of an 80 or 90 series' storyline and then I remember how much better it was done on the 80/90 show.I think there's a big rose tinted nostalgia for older shows because you didn't notice it back then the way you do now.
Actually I rewatch a lot of these shows right now--I'm not just relying on nostalgic memories from waaaay back when I first watched them but I'm re-evaluating them with years and years of exposure to a lot of shows since I first watched them--and they are still better even put under my more critical jaded eye compared to contemporary shows. In fact, the whole recycled issue I bring up is due to these modern shows' storylines reminding me of an 80 or 90 series' storyline and then I remember how much better it was done on the 80/90 show.I think there's a big rose tinted nostalgia for older shows because you didn't notice it back then the way you do now.
We'll have to agree to disagree--to me this decade has been pretty much wall-to-wall mediocre entertainment. Even when the 70s/80s/90s had shallow mediocre tv shows is had a charm to it that is absent from a 00 counterpart i.e. V, Hercules, Xena etc.
Of course nostalgia plays a part of it--but it can't make you turn a blind eye to crap. And if nostalgia could cure a series with weak writing why has pretty much none of the remakes that have brought in some of the original cast of characters done well.
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