The Great Chronological Run-Through
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Yup, when I click on them on my laptop, they take me to www.trekbbs.com/#.
Say, Nasat, isn't "Where No Man Has Gone Before" also the first mention of the Aldebaran colony?
When I quote his post, the hyperlinks and images are in the source, so I think they got in when he was writing it originally; did you write the post elsewhere and copy it in from something else, Nasat?
Also, a great summary! I like your theorizing as to why exactly Mitchell and Dehner act the specific way they do, I can see the sense to that explanation.
Also, a great summary! I like your theorizing as to why exactly Mitchell and Dehner act the specific way they do, I can see the sense to that explanation.
Uh-oh. Sorry to anyone being inconvenienced. My computer has been doing that. Whenever I bring up a page online, random words in any text there are hyperlinked and marked with that green arrow. It persists onto the word document if I copy. When writing these posts, I tend to write in the BBS reply box and periodically save the text to a word document, and occasionally I paste from an updated word document to the BBS, which I guess explains this. I thought my security was up to date - my scans, etc, keep insisting nothing's wrong.
Unfortunately, since I have the computer savvy of a confused dormouse, I have no idea what to do about this.
Uh-oh. I wonder why my anti-viral didn't catch it, and why the active scans I've performed found nothing.
As with Stevil2001's example involving "Court-Martial" and "The Menagerie," there is no perfect solution to this type of issue when it comes to TOS.
Production order or airing order still has the two episodes you mentioned happening within months of each other in the same year, and TOS in general isn't the sort of series that tended to point out when the crew had encountered something similar before.
Forgive my ignorance, but I was comparing this to http://startreklitverse.yolasite.com/the-original-series.php and I was wondering why you're leaving out the My Brother's Keeper series, since it's referenced in "The Landing Party" (Constellations). Also, what about:
"Sins of the Mother" (Lives of Dax)
"The Aliens are Coming" (SNWIII; referenced in Eugenics Wars series)
Oh, I think I remember him saying that. Now I feel dumb. I guess that leaves me only with the question about My Brother's Keeper.
True, but I find the Starbase 11 issue a lot easier to rationalize away. YMMV.
Not quite. Aldebaran itself was mentioned by Phlox several times, so Denobula was apparently trading with someone who was collecting mud leeches, etc., from the Aldebaran planets as early as the 2150s. He also mentioned Aldebaran drums, which might imply that someone was already living there (alternatively, they simply use materials from Aldebaran, or something). The Emony story in The Lives of Dax, though, referred to an Olympic gymnastics competition at Aldebaran, so that was the first mention of a Federation settlement there.
Idran is right about "Sins of the Mother" - since the whole affair is told in the form of Dax's letter to Neema, I'm reading it at the point she writes it.
I'm afraid I've never read My Brother's Keeper, and wasn't aware that it was compatible.
I don't think it is. Since it was written before Enterprise, it contains some inconsistencies with that series. It portrays the Axanar species incompatibly with ENT's version, and it implies that the ridged Klingons were newly created in the 2260s as the result of a genetic engineering experiment. The latter might perhaps be fudgeable as an attempt to reverse the effects of the Augment virus, but I'm not sure.
Also, the frame story of MBK is set during and after the Enterprise's return from the Galactic Barrier, and I don't think its version thereof is consistent with Vanguard: Harbinger.
Correct. In My Brother's Keeper: Republic, Kirk orders a course for Starbase 33, and shortly thereafter in My Brother's Keeper: Constitution, Kirk is debriefed about the Galactic Barrier incident at Starbase 33. In Harbinger, on the other hand, Kirk thought that the Enterprise was months away from an operational starbase, and the Enterprise crew was surprised by Starbase 47 - Vanguard's operational status.
And also in a flashback, Kirk is teaching a class about the Earth-Romulan War. He says that there were no phasers, disruptors, nor photon torpedoes; both sides used nuclear weaponry. And humans had warp drive while Romulans had impulse drive only. Students say that FTL propulsion doesn't work in planetary gravity and that to hit anything, ships had to engage at impulse velocity. Kirk also displays an image of a 2150s Romulan bird of prey, the 1993 Star Trek Chronology version.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/File:RomWarBoP.jpg
Interesting. So the reference to My Brother's Keeper in "the Landing Party" should be treated like references to some of the 80s novels? There may have been events in the novelverse somewhat similar to what is depicted in the novels, but not everything in those novels is in the novelverse.
Sounds reasonable. Or maybe the events didn't happen but the specific thing that was referenced does exist. Anyway, I just skimmed through the early parts of the story, and its summary of events post-"Where No Man" seems general enough that I can't recognize any specific MBK allusions.
If that's a tidbit you obtained from the Litverse Reading Guide, keep in mind that I place every story that is referenced by another story on that list, even if there are inconsistances between some works on the list. Those inconsistancies are left too the reader to reconcile. (Also those inconsistancies are what made the My Brother's Keeper trilogy reduced to "third level importance" in the reading list.)
Yeah, that's where I saw there was a reference. Do you recall what the specific reference in "The Landing Party" was to My Brother's Keeper?
Not off the top of my head, but I will look in to it. I seem to recall annotations for Constellations being online somewhere and thats probably where I found something.
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