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The Good In Every STAR TREK Episode...

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Admiral
Admiral
All STAR TREK series have had their share of clunkers. And everyone has a different list of what they consider bad episodes. There are, of course, some that are universally reviled. But even those can have something positive about them.

So here is a challenge...

Every episode each of you consider a bad one, I want you to find something positive about it.

I want to do this for every series, and I already started one for TNG, DS9, VOYAGER and ENTERPRISE. I will not make one for DISCOVERY, as it has not been on the air long enough for it to be a fair challenge. I'll probably wait until the end of their 3rd season, if it gets one (which I do hope it does), to do that.

I will begin.

"THE WAY TO EDEN" - This is a very difficult one to find good in, because it just did not work for me at all.

But I can say one thing... it gave some much needed story for Chekov. It was nice to see him with some backstory that didn't involve everything being a Russian invention. And she was quite easy on the eyes, too. So for a purely superficial reason, I will add that to my positive list.
 
"The Alternative Factor" was chaotic and confusing, but I have to say that, if you need an actor to say crazy things with intensity and absolute conviction, you could do much worse than Robert Brown (who I may or may not have had a crush on at that stage in my life. Rather not say....).
 
"Patterns of Force" is less than an hour long, that's a good thing. ;) Okay, and Spock instructing Bones on how to put on his boot is cute.
 
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"Spock's Brain" also had the nice rear view projector, which gave the bridge scenes more atmosphere.

"The Way to Eden" had Spock eloquently discussing Sevrin's group's rejection of technology (as well as the aforementioned point of Chekov being an actual person and not a stick figure who claimed everything was "inwented in Wenningwad by widdle owd wadies with nooclear wessels.") Seeing a guy in go-go boots pretty much makes up for the number of times only women wore the same type of outfits. I kinda dig the song as well and I still vaguely remember James Blish's adaptation for his novelization. About man finding how he had to think. (both actors had great singing voices, but I'd rather listen to them as solo performances. As a duo, they don't have the harmony of the Mamas and the Papas or ABBA... )

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For all its superficial nonsense, one still can't help but to feel for the plight of the Vians in "The Empath". The novelty of the force field being tied to one's internal emotions was pretty brilliant, too.

"The Mark of Gideon" may oversimplify rather a lot, all while trying to cut costs by reusing the Enterprise sets, but a Trek episode discussing the fears of overpopulation is still laudable. Indeed, a lot of season 3 is surprisingly poor despite utilizing some highly compelling societal concepts. A lot of that is due to budget, which "Gideon" epitomizes and most directly personifies. That and the actor playing Quinteros in TNG's classic episode "11001001" (it's one of my all-time favorite gems, season 1 or otherwise) is in this TOS episode too. :D

"The Lights of Zetar" also contrives a lot, especially for the galactic library having no defenses, but they really sold the episode with the horror element, working better than even some horror movies of the era. (Rosemary's Baby notwithstanding...)

"The Omega Glory" is actually a very strong entry into the show until the impossibility of the American flag and US Constitution showing up. That and anything Morgan Woodward is in is instantly elevated by his presence.

"The Deadly Years" has some top notch performances from everyone affected by the aging radiation.

"Patterns of Force", capitalizing on the then-trend of saving budget by incorporating the horrors of Naziism, still had a lot of yummy eye candy... and, of course, Skip Homier who clearly enjoyed doing villain roles on Star Rrek.

"Bread and Circuses" has a lot of wishful thinking at times, but despite its trappings it remained surprisingly engaging to watch, has the actor who played Mr. Atoz as another good guy (Septimus) epitomizing the core optimism of Star Trek, and one heck of an ending as the crew are beamed up at Merik's behest just before being shot to death by Claudius' machine gun-wielding guards and, of course, Merik being stabbed by Claudius. Kirk signaling to Scotty that they're in trouble but nobody is to mount a rescue was a nice twist. And Uhura getting to figure out "the Sun Worshippers" was pretty cool, too - and, again, and for the late 1960s, was trying to show hope to a mainstream audience.

"Turnabout Intruder" has a decent premise and robust acting, despite it being well known by the cast and crew the show would not be renewed.

"Catspaw" as Kirk admitting they can synthesize "precious" gems so they don't care. As a kid, seeing the Enterprise in 2" form on a chain looked cool, unlike Chekov and his Monkees wig, which is the one thing he never admitted that was made in Leningrad by a little old lady after she got bored inventing Scotch and drunk from taste-testing all those whiskey recipes under her development...

"I, Mudd" is the epitome of self-conscious nonsense done right. "I, Mudd" had some hysterical moments in what amounts to yet another "Kirk nags a computer to death" episode, which also happens to incorporate as much pervy grotesqueness that TOS might dare to do without turning on the censors (so to speak). The twins reciting their lines added just enough camp to make everything work along with the regular cast. I prefer by far "Mudd's Women", but "I, Mudd" uses self-consciousness in a surprisingly effective way. That and Spock gets to recite some fun illogical to immobilize the two androids Chekov wanted to get it on with...) That and I think Kirk was potentially but mildly jealous of Norman, for not conceptually dissimilar reasons to why Chekov wanted the Alices (as they were more fun than Leningrad, even spoken in the actual episode...) as they all seemed to have been, um, well-built... oh, the crushes I had as a teen... but that's 1967, not 1987...

"The Changeling" is often cringe inducing and convenient-beyond-magic with its more "dramatic" scenes, but I still like the concept of two AI satellites colliding, somehow repairing itself due to its AI, and reprogramming itself to cause harm instead of good... and all by one big accidental happenstance. Just don't ask how it made such powerful weaponry or how Kirk repeated the same limited number of gaffes NOMAD had despite NOMAD engaging in a lot more of them, but thankfully NOMAD was so imperfect it didn't figure that out because if it had it would have conveniently self-destructed even sooner. But something like a third of all TOS episodes all revolve around "Kirk is good, computer is evil." Complete with introducing loooooooove to the convenient female guest of the week, which "Changeling" oddly lacks? Why do I now want to go waddle off and sit through "Zardoz"? Especially when Kirk, if landing on that planet, wouldn't live too long because all his ex-flings called up the locals in advance to talk about what wasn't good, uh-oh...
 
Plato's Stepchildren!! Yuck! The only good thing about it was the crew's relationship with the dwarf Alexander!
JB
 
"Spock's Brain" also had the nice rear view projector, which gave the bridge scenes more atmosphere.

"The Way to Eden" had Spock eloquently discussing Sevrin's group's rejection of technology (as well as the aforementioned point of Chekov being an actual person and not a stick figure who claimed everything was "inwented in Wenningwad by widdle owd wadies with nooclear wessels.") Seeing a guy in go-go boots pretty much makes up for the number of times only women wore the same type of outfits. I kinda dig the song as well and I still vaguely remember James Blish's adaptation for his novelization. About man finding how he had to think. (both actors had great singing voices, but I'd rather listen to them as solo performances. As a duo, they don't have the harmony of the Mamas and the Papas or ABBA... )

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For all its superficial nonsense, one still can't help but to feel for the plight of the Vians in "The Empath". The novelty of the force field being tied to one's internal emotions was pretty brilliant, too.

"The Mark of Gideon" may oversimplify rather a lot, all while trying to cut costs by reusing the Enterprise sets, but a Trek episode discussing the fears of overpopulation is still laudable. Indeed, a lot of season 3 is surprisingly poor despite utilizing some highly compelling societal concepts. A lot of that is due to budget, which "Gideon" epitomizes and most directly personifies. That and the actor playing Quinteros in TNG's classic episode "11001001" (it's one of my all-time favorite gems, season 1 or otherwise) is in this TOS episode too. :D

"The Lights of Zetar" also contrives a lot, especially for the galactic library having no defenses, but they really sold the episode with the horror element, working better than even some horror movies of the era. (Rosemary's Baby notwithstanding...)

"The Omega Glory" is actually a very strong entry into the show until the impossibility of the American flag and US Constitution showing up. That and anything Morgan Woodward is in is instantly elevated by his presence.

"The Deadly Years" has some top notch performances from everyone affected by the aging radiation.

"Patterns of Force", capitalizing on the then-trend of saving budget by incorporating the horrors of Naziism, still had a lot of yummy eye candy... and, of course, Skip Homier who clearly enjoyed doing villain roles on Star Rrek.

"Bread and Circuses" has a lot of wishful thinking at times, but despite its trappings it remained surprisingly engaging to watch, has the actor who played Mr. Atoz as another good guy (Septimus) epitomizing the core optimism of Star Trek, and one heck of an ending as the crew are beamed up at Merik's behest just before being shot to death by Claudius' machine gun-wielding guards and, of course, Merik being stabbed by Claudius. Kirk signaling to Scotty that they're in trouble but nobody is to mount a rescue was a nice twist. And Uhura getting to figure out "the Sun Worshippers" was pretty cool, too - and, again, and for the late 1960s, was trying to show hope to a mainstream audience.

"Turnabout Intruder" has a decent premise and robust acting, despite it being well known by the cast and crew the show would not be renewed.

"Catspaw" as Kirk admitting they can synthesize "precious" gems so they don't care. As a kid, seeing the Enterprise in 2" form on a chain looked cool, unlike Chekov and his Monkees wig, which is the one thing he never admitted that was made in Leningrad by a little old lady after she got bored inventing Scotch and drunk from taste-testing all those whiskey recipes under her development...

"I, Mudd" is the epitome of self-conscious nonsense done right. "I, Mudd" had some hysterical moments in what amounts to yet another "Kirk nags a computer to death" episode, which also happens to incorporate as much pervy grotesqueness that TOS might dare to do without turning on the censors (so to speak). The twins reciting their lines added just enough camp to make everything work along with the regular cast. I prefer by far "Mudd's Women", but "I, Mudd" uses self-consciousness in a surprisingly effective way. That and Spock gets to recite some fun illogical to immobilize the two androids Chekov wanted to get it on with...) That and I think Kirk was potentially but mildly jealous of Norman, for not conceptually dissimilar reasons to why Chekov wanted the Alices (as they were more fun than Leningrad, even spoken in the actual episode...) as they all seemed to have been, um, well-built... oh, the crushes I had as a teen... but that's 1967, not 1987...

"The Changeling" is often cringe inducing and convenient-beyond-magic with its more "dramatic" scenes, but I still like the concept of two AI satellites colliding, somehow repairing itself due to its AI, and reprogramming itself to cause harm instead of good... and all by one big accidental happenstance. Just don't ask how it made such powerful weaponry or how Kirk repeated the same limited number of gaffes NOMAD had despite NOMAD engaging in a lot more of them, but thankfully NOMAD was so imperfect it didn't figure that out because if it had it would have conveniently self-destructed even sooner. But something like a third of all TOS episodes all revolve around "Kirk is good, computer is evil." Complete with introducing loooooooove to the convenient female guest of the week, which "Changeling" oddly lacks? Why do I now want to go waddle off and sit through "Zardoz"? Especially when Kirk, if landing on that planet, wouldn't live too long because all his ex-flings called up the locals in advance to talk about what wasn't good, uh-oh...

These are good ones! Great reasonings and scenes.

"TURNABOUT INTRUDER" - This was not a good way to end the series, in my opinion. I did enjoy the bodyswapping concept, and the woman who played Janice did a good job of emulating Kirk's more thoughtful, tactical expressions and tone.
 
No love for And the Children Shall Lead?

I will say that those ice cream flavors sound appetizing, especially "chocolate wobble."

Kor
 
I thought Spock's philosophical musing in the Way to Eden was quite insightful and foreshadowed his return to Vulcan in TMP.
 
I would have posted about ATCSL because as a few here may have noticed, l'm a defender/apologist. But I usually approach it (and Spock's Brain, incidentally) not by saying one thing that’s good about it, but four or five misguided things that, if fixed, would made it good. :eek:

But in the spirit of the thread, as for ATCSL, I'll say that I find it genuinely scary and unsettling. Oh, it also gives us a glimpse at kids in the UFP, which almost no other ep outside of Charlie X (and Op:Ann, with the same actor!) does.
 
The Alternative Factor - It's rather poignant to think of the way this episode ended, with Lazarus left struggling against a madman for the rest of time.

Catspaw - There are some spooky moments, like the voice coming from the dead guy at the start. It's nice to see non-humanoid aliens. Spock's "Very bad poetry, Captain." is a funny line!

Spock's Brain - Um... the girls were pretty...? Errrrr... Struggling.

The Way to Eden - It's amusing that Spock can quickly get on such good terms with the hippies when Kirk's every effort to talk to them just leaves him more frustrated. And the idea that there are indeed differences of opinion in the Federation is a refreshing one. Most of the time you get the impression that the writers are honestly saying that the Federation is a paradise because all the billions of people in it agree on pretty much every issue of importance.

The Savage Curtain - I liked the way Spock interacted with Surak. He comes across as more "logical" than usual, which is a nice touch given he's talking to the guy who started all that.
 
Alternative Factor is a flawed gem. Despite clumsy incoherent moments, it's basically epic and compelling.

Spock's Brain: Sickbay scene acted believably. High point is McCoy arguing for using the teacher, then his transformation by it.
 
ATCSL- has some genuinely harrowing and spooky moments. It can be atmospheric at times. I like Kirk's initial discomfort with the children.

Plato's Stepchildren- I love some of the dialogue between Alexander and the landing party. The conclusion is very satisfying.

Spock's Brain- I like the scene on the bridge where Kirk and the bridge crew work to solve the problem together. Some of the campy humor hits the mark well. The music score is cool

Alternative Factor- bad execution on a really compelling idea.

Mudd's Women- uhhhhh....ummmm.....the glimpse of life on the mining planet....I guess??

Catspaw- Portrayal of a truly alien race

Turnabout Intruder- I like the discussion in the corridor between McCoy and Scott where they weigh their options
 
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