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The General Knight Rider thread.

I just thought of another one season sci-fi show, "Otherworld".
The premise was a family getting transported to a "near Earth" planet in another dimension and how the planet was both more advanced and backwards at the same time.
I think I may have caught one episode before the series was canceled.
I remember that!
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That depends on how you define adaptation. The word literally means to change something to fit a new context. It's not about copying the original, it's about using its concepts as a launching point for something new and distinct, something that complements it rather than competing with it. If the original approach to that idea isn't a good fit to a different medium, then finding a whole new and different approach that works for that medium is the right way to go. It doesn't matter how different it is from the book, because the book is still there. It isn't going anywhere, and it isn't harmed in any way by the existence of a new work only loosely based on it.

I fully realize that. Sometimes they'll have no choice but to change (update is a better word, actually) something in order to benefit the medium. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In the end, it's just different, like apples and oranges are different. That's not a knock on anything, but rather is an observation. Different mediums often have different areas of focus. Sometimes something in a book can be difficult to convey off the page for whatever reason. One specific example was when the Da Vinci Code movie came out, I was very curious as to how they would be depicting some of the non-visual descriptions. In a way, all that updating becomes a language of its own.
 
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Sometimes something in a book can be difficult to convey off the page for whatever reason.

But that's my point -- in that case, you don't adapt that part, but focus on the other parts that are adaptable, and combine them with something new.

From Sawyer's memo, it sounds like he felt the problem with FlashForward wasn't that it failed to capture something from the book, but that it failed to commit fully to its own premise -- it set up a situation with a lot of potential and then backed away from exploring its full consequences in favor of a more conventional and narrowly focused status quo. So it's not that the show wasn't enough like the book, it's that the show backed away from being fully itself.
 
I remember Captain Power vaguely...I never had the toys that I recall, but I seem to remember one episode, probably towards the end if not the final episode, where the antagonist started to reveal some complexity and maybe some possibility for redemption.

JMS does like to do the slow burns with his characters and stories, so that would track.

Sadly, I don't think I ever saw another episode after that.

Again, vague memories, so if I got it wrong, then I got it wrong. :p

Also, sorry I let the WotW conversation drop. I didn't really have much to say to the most recent messages, which doesn't mean I didn't appreciate them, and then a bunch more came into the thread. I'm always happy to talk about that series, though I think we may have basically covered it?
 
Invasion and Flash Forward were the two shows that made me stop watching programs based on a single story arc. That and the show where the world ends up without electricity. I liked those shows and was invested in the story and was pissed off when they were cancelled without decent endings. At least Fascape and Firefly got a chance to finish their stories.
Yeah, I'm still frustrated by some of these shows not getting decent resolutions, but Revolution did get a comic book that I think was posted online somewhere that I did resolve some of the plot threads. I never read it, but I do remember hearing about it.
Oh I can't believe I forgot one of my absolutely favorite one season wonders:
Charlie Jade
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I eventually found a writers guide to the second season that never happened, and it sounded like it was going to go in some very interesting directions. I thought the character of Boxer 01 was especially fascinating. For anyone who never watched the show, the title character is PI from an alternate universe version of Cape Town called Cape City who is accidently sent to our Cape Town, and ends up getting pulled big corporate conspiracy to control a whole bunch of different universes. Boxer 01 was one of the main villains, but what was interesting was that in each of the different universe he went to, he had a totally different personality. In one he was hard partyer, in one he was spoiled rich kid, and then in another he was a peaceful family man.
I just found out it has a connection to one of the other shows we've been talking about, the series bible was written by Robert J. Sawyer, the author of the original Flash Forward novel.
 
Yeah, I'm still frustrated by some of these shows not getting decent resolutions, but Revolution did get a comic book that I think was posted online somewhere that I did resolve some of the plot threads. I never read it, but I do remember hearing about it.
Oh I can't believe I forgot one of my absolutely favorite one season wonders:
Charlie Jade
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I eventually found a writers guide to the second season that never happened, and it sounded like it was going to go in some very interesting directions. I thought the character of Boxer 01 was especially fascinating. For anyone who never watched the show, the title character is PI from an alternate universe version of Cape Town called Cape City who is accidently sent to our Cape Town, and ends up getting pulled big corporate conspiracy to control a whole bunch of different universes. Boxer 01 was one of the main villains, but what was interesting was that in each of the different universe he went to, he had a totally different personality. In one he was hard partyer, in one he was spoiled rich kid, and then in another he was a peaceful family man.
I just found out it has a connection to one of the other shows we've been talking about, the series bible was written by Robert J. Sawyer, the author of the original Flash Forward novel.
Someone on YouTube upscaled this show recently. I couldn't get into it.
 
I wonder if things like Flash Forward or Under the Dome or even Revolution would work better in the streaming age?

I think some were hamstrung by having to fill 22 episodes a season which necessitated a lot of padding and random plot tangents. Whereas something like 3 Body Problem only had 8 episodes to fill.
 
I wonder if things like Flash Forward or Under the Dome or even Revolution would work better in the streaming age?

I think some were hamstrung by having to fill 22 episodes a season which necessitated a lot of padding and random plot tangents. Whereas something like 3 Body Problem only had 8 episodes to fill.
How times have changed. Once upon a time, a series canceled after a single 24-episode season was considered a failure, but one that runs for three 8-episode seasons on a streaming platform is considered a moderate success.
 
But if we're talking about TV shows about super vehicles, we can't forget...

SUPERTRAIN!!! When it was produced it was the most expensive TV series of all time!!!
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But if we're talking about TV shows about super vehicles, we can't forget...

SUPERTRAIN!!! When it was produced it was the most expensive TV series of all time!!!
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What the hell? :lol:
 
But if we're talking about TV shows about super vehicles, we can't forget...

SUPERTRAIN!!! When it was produced it was the most expensive TV series of all time!!!
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Again, I have vague memories of maybe watching an episode or two before it was canceled.
It was supposed to be like 'The Love Boat', but set on the worlds first nuclear powered train that was the fastest in the world from New York to LA.
 
I wonder if things like Flash Forward or Under the Dome or even Revolution would work better in the streaming age?

I think some were hamstrung by having to fill 22 episodes a season which necessitated a lot of padding and random plot tangents. Whereas something like 3 Body Problem only had 8 episodes to fill.
What I am seeing now with the 8 series show is that the episodes now run about an hour each.
 
It was supposed to be like 'The Love Boat', but set on the worlds first nuclear powered train that was the fastest in the world from New York to LA.

In 36 hours! I think anyone who had the money to ride this train would have preferred to take a plane.
 
Let's let sleeping crap piles sleep -- if we keep bringing up crap like "Automan", or the previously un-mentioned "Manimal", Hollywood might get ideas to remake them...

I see your "The Phoenix" and raise you: "The Powers of Matthew Star".
Hey now, I have 3 out of 4 of those on DVD. And if someone would put The Phoenix out there, I'd grab that up too. It would be in my "great failures" section along with The Immortal and Blue Thunder.
 
In 36 hours! I think anyone who had the money to ride this train would have preferred to take a plane.

A lot of people don't like flying. I know I'd rather take high-speed rail if we had it, if not for the fact that I get motion-sick trying to sleep on a moving vehicle.

But 36 hours from New York to LA seems conservative. Assuming a fairly straight route, that's an average velocity of less than 80 MPH, and Japan's Shinkansen can reach 200 MPH.
 
A lot of people don't like flying. I know I'd rather take high-speed rail if we had it, if not for the fact that I get motion-sick trying to sleep on a moving vehicle.

But 36 hours from New York to LA seems conservative. Assuming a fairly straight route, that's an average velocity of less than 80 MPH, and Japan's Shinkansen can reach 200 MPH.
Having ridden the Shinkansen in Japan, you have to take into consideration stops and how long it takes to increase its speed. The shorter the stops the less speed it can reach. This was my experience.
 
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