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Spoilers The Flash - Season 5

By the way, it was weird that it was Nora (IIRC) who said to Barry "I can't believe you're reading Mick's book" (Uncaged Desire, established in Legends of Tomorrow as a romance novel pseudonymously written by Mick Rory). Does Nora even know who Mick is? Was there some off-camera Legends crossover we missed?

Her dear Uncle Wally would have told her about Mick...at least.
 
I am sure there is a small section in the Flash Museum dealing with the Legends so thats how Nora knows Mick.

Actually it's kind of amazing how much the Museum doesn't explain. Like, the fact that Eobard Thawne murdered the Flash's mother -- that's a pretty huge piece of history to omit from a museum.
 
It was a very good standard Flash episode.

The 1 hour ticking clock to Thawne's death would seem to hint that Thawne is going to be executed. If so, that would mean that the death penalty for metas exists in 2049. I also think it is probably fair to assume that Thawne is manipulating Nora to change the timeline in order to avoid the death penalty. I wonder if it will work and Thawne will escape and we will get a big confrontation between Flash and Reverse Flash closer to the finale or maybe in the finale.

I thought Cisco working on a meta human cure opens up a lot of interesting ideas for the show which the episode did a good job of touching on. Which metas should get the "cure"? Do you force it upon all metas or only the really bad ones? Lots of issues to explore there.

The Legends "cameo", ie the book, was very funny.
 
Actually it's kind of amazing how much the Museum doesn't explain. Like, the fact that Eobard Thawne murdered the Flash's mother -- that's a pretty huge piece of history to omit from a museum.
Yeah, I was a bit surprised by that too, you'd think there would be a whole wing of the Museum devoted to all the timey-wimey stuff related to Thawne murdering his mother.
I enjoyed this one.
The stuff with Weather Witch and Silver Ghost was a pretty good case of the week, and the introduction of a possible Meta cure does open up some interesting possibilities.
I was recently reading a bunch of the New 52 Flash comics that introduced they're take on the Rogues, I am a bit surprised they went with the old tech based version of characters like Captain Cold, Heatwave, and Weather Wizard.
 
It's interesting that the Argos prototype car has a cloaking device. I wonder if we will see that tech again, maybe on Arrow since it features Argos more prominently?
 
By the way, it was weird that it was Nora (IIRC) who said to Barry "I can't believe you're reading Mick's book"

Another weird thing about that is that they then have the "can criminals change" conversation and neither of them think of Mick...

Actually it's kind of amazing how much the Museum doesn't explain. Like, the fact that Eobard Thawne murdered the Flash's mother -- that's a pretty huge piece of history to omit from a museum.

People know Thawne killed Barry Allen's mom, because he made that tape confessing the murder that set Henry Allen free, so if his identity is still secret, not advertising he killed The Flash's mom seems a reasonable precaution lest people put two and two together.
 
The 1 hour ticking clock to Thawne's death would seem to hint that Thawne is going to be executed. If so, that would mean that the death penalty for metas exists in 2049.

We don't know that it's specifically for metas, unless you're thinking it might be the same timeline Zari comes from in Legends. But yeah, that's the implication I got. As much as I disapprove of capital punishment, it's an interesting plot device for the Thawne/Nora storyline -- that everything she's been experiencing over months is just part of an ongoing conversation that, from Thawne's perspective, is unfolding over the last hour or two before his execution. (Although it seems pretty cruel to a condemned prisoner to put a big honking countdown clock in his cell.)

It's also a bit reminiscent of the '90 Flash episode "Beat the Clock," where Barry had an hour to prove a condemned man innocent before his execution.

I also think it is probably fair to assume that Thawne is manipulating Nora to change the timeline in order to avoid the death penalty. I wonder if it will work and Thawne will escape and we will get a big confrontation between Flash and Reverse Flash closer to the finale or maybe in the finale.

That's likely, but it'd be nice if it turned out he actually were capable of redemption.


It's interesting that the Argos prototype car has a cloaking device. I wonder if we will see that tech again, maybe on Arrow since it features Argos more prominently?

I doubt it, since it was created for the purposes of this episode and the ARGUS link was probably just a plot convenience. But did you note -- Silver Ghost said it was rumored that all of the parts came from Wayne Industries. So it's basically a non-custom Batmobile.
 
Even benign Time travel is genocide.

Empires rise and fall or trillions can be swindled.

Why would The museum advertise Barry's time-crimes?

Even advertising Thawne's time crimes, would give thousand's of geniuses confirmation that time travel is possible so that they will struggle to invent time travel and then they can murder billions by derailing conceptions, and swindle trillions, by making sure that New Empires rise at the expense of old Empires.

It's possible that the Time Bureau pardoned Barry for his time crimes, but that could happen only if someone was stupid enough to tell them, and risk Barry having his head cut off.
 
With all of the time travel going on now, I wouldn't be surprised if it was common knowledge by 2049.
 
Has it been established whether the Flash Museum acknowledges that BARRY was the Flash?

Is it a BARRY museum of a FLASH museum?

If it's a Flash museum, then I would think his identity would be kept out of it, and it would make sense that Reverse Flash killing Barry's mom would be out of it.
 
Even if they didn't use names, they could still say that The Flash's mother was killed by Reverse Flash.
 
I thought the episode was interesting, but I did find one issue that was interesting. If I recall, it seemed like the Silver Ghost's backstory indicates that in that universe that airmen can become pilots. I thought the data record noted she was an airman first class.

I know that for in modern times, you have to be an officer to be a pilot in the Air Force.
 
Officers are airmen as well...

I'm an air force brat so I'd know...

But you are correct about pilots being officers
 
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