Spoilers The Flash - Season 2
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Over the last week or two IGN has done interviews with a bunch of the cast members.
Grant Guston Talks Wally West, Whether Earth-2 Barry Is Zoom, and More
Danielle Panabaker Talks Zoom, Wells, Cisco, and the Appeal of Playing a Villain
Candice Patton on Earth-2 Iris and the introduction of Wally West
Grant Guston Talks Wally West, Whether Earth-2 Barry Is Zoom, and More
Danielle Panabaker Talks Zoom, Wells, Cisco, and the Appeal of Playing a Villain
Candice Patton on Earth-2 Iris and the introduction of Wally West
I don't want to see any spoilers so I'll just say I can't wait till the show returns. When I was doing the summer watch of Flash season 1, I didn't have the winter break to worry about. This season it hasn't been that bad (Thanks Supergirl) but I'm eager to see it return. Now that all the legends of tomorrow stuff hopefully is done we can focus on earth 2 and other aspects of the multiverse (is there an earth 3) and see how the Zoom arc plays out.
So much for telling Patty Barry was the Flash. Now she's leaving? I was just starting to like her.
This was one of the weaker episodes for me. All the drama was in the Patty/berry relationship and I'm disappointed she will be leaving. The meta human was ok but I kinda expected something bigger for a show coming back from hiatus. Maybe watching the last episode and this episode back to back would improve my feel is on this one but I kinda wish there was more there.
I do like that we're getting reverse flash again next week.
This was one of the weaker episodes for me. All the drama was in the Patty/berry relationship and I'm disappointed she will be leaving. The meta human was ok but I kinda expected something bigger for a show coming back from hiatus. Maybe watching the last episode and this episode back to back would improve my feel is on this one but I kinda wish there was more there.
I do like that we're getting reverse flash again next week.
Just when Barry was ready to tell another soul about his dual identity, Patty Spivot was ready to move on with her life and leave Central City. Was that her plan all along? If so, why bother to get close to Barry in the first place, not knowing if their relationship was going to work?
The Turtle was very different from the comic and animated versions of the character that I've seen. If he could absorb kinetic energy, shouldn't he be super fast rather than normal or slow?
By the way, I was blown away by the previews for Legends of Tomorrow, Batman vs Superman, and The Suicide Squad. I also think Geoff Johns is hecka cute.
The Turtle was very different from the comic and animated versions of the character that I've seen. If he could absorb kinetic energy, shouldn't he be super fast rather than normal or slow?
By the way, I was blown away by the previews for Legends of Tomorrow, Batman vs Superman, and The Suicide Squad. I also think Geoff Johns is hecka cute.
The Chief can absorb kinetic energy but that doesn't mean that his body can do anything with it.
Y'know like how Vitamin C tablets have zero effect on your body no matter how few or many you take.
I thought Geoff looked very young, and then I realized that that was just because I'm old too.
They're dumping Patty to pay for Wally, or Wells Junior?
(Or is the actress preggers?)
The Law of Conservation of Casting Budget.
Y'know like how Vitamin C tablets have zero effect on your body no matter how few or many you take.
I thought Geoff looked very young, and then I realized that that was just because I'm old too.
They're dumping Patty to pay for Wally, or Wells Junior?
(Or is the actress preggers?)
The Law of Conservation of Casting Budget.
Perhaps being threatened with eternal stagnation she was newly inspired to move on with her life?
Cool superhero stuff in this episode, but the relationship drama dragged it down. Between Barry/Patty, Joe/Wally and Jay/Snow, it was too Arrow/Supergirl-ish with the soap opera drama this week. Still, it was decent, it was just weak compared to the average Flash episode. I liked their use of The Turtle, and the tease at the end for next episode was cool.
I never got the sense that Patty was leaving the show. It's just the latest in their relationship drama. She still has to get her cosmic motorcycle and become Hot Pursuit. This is the speedster season.
I was expecting Barry to change his mind about telling Patty because of the whole "I can't endanger the people dear to me" thing that Wells was pushing earlier. On the one hand, I'm glad they didn't go that predictable route, but on the other, I'm not glad that they avoided it by just throwing in this random twist out of left field.
And it was so weird to see Barry -- who's a forensic scientist -- just picking up and moving evidence from a crime scene with his bare hands. He should have an instinctual aversion to doing anything of the sort.
The idea that Cisco's been hunting for the Turtle for a year and a half now without it ever coming up is funny, but it makes no sense that they were suddenly able to find his name so easily the moment they started looking for him on-camera. And what's with putting him in the Pipeline? Didn't they establish in the season premiere that Iron Heights is now equipped to hold metahumans? Why, then, are they continuing to use their completely illegal and unethical private prison?
And it was so weird to see Barry -- who's a forensic scientist -- just picking up and moving evidence from a crime scene with his bare hands. He should have an instinctual aversion to doing anything of the sort.
The idea that Cisco's been hunting for the Turtle for a year and a half now without it ever coming up is funny, but it makes no sense that they were suddenly able to find his name so easily the moment they started looking for him on-camera. And what's with putting him in the Pipeline? Didn't they establish in the season premiere that Iron Heights is now equipped to hold metahumans? Why, then, are they continuing to use their completely illegal and unethical private prison?
I'm assuming they put him in the pipeline so they would have easy access to him when they figured out how to use his powers against Zoom.
The stuff with Joe and Wally was pretty good. It makes sense that they would have problems trying to incorporate themselves into each others' lives.
I'm really annoyed they are just getting rid of Patty like that. In most of the other episodes it seemed like the relationship was going well, so this sudden turn around was kind of annoying.
The Turtle was an interesting villain, but nothing spectacular. The fact that pretty much everybody except Barry knew about him was funny.
Not quite sure what to make of Jay being sick. I guess it's just going to be a bigger motivation for them to get him back his speed.
The stuff with Joe and Wally was pretty good. It makes sense that they would have problems trying to incorporate themselves into each others' lives.
I'm really annoyed they are just getting rid of Patty like that. In most of the other episodes it seemed like the relationship was going well, so this sudden turn around was kind of annoying.
The Turtle was an interesting villain, but nothing spectacular. The fact that pretty much everybody except Barry knew about him was funny.
Not quite sure what to make of Jay being sick. I guess it's just going to be a bigger motivation for them to get him back his speed.
I did like the use of the Turtle, but I didn't like how the usually on-the-ball STAR labs team was ineffectual. No strategy, no suggestions, no tech, they just let Barry run after him again and again.
I like that idea!
Caitlin came off pretty badly in her exchange with Jay. She was upset with him for getting close to her while he knew he was sick because her husband had died just a few months ago. He apparently should have had the common decency to isolate himself from the rest of the world and die alone so as not to upset poor Caitlin.
Well, for his sake, Caitlin better have some serious Daddy Issues.
I had a very rude thought.
I had a very rude thought.
I can think of another way Jay can get some Snow around his temples.
She just meant that he should've told her he was sick before allowing a romantic attachment to form between them. It was kind of unfair for him to hide that from her, to know that she might have to go through the same pain all over again, yet let her remain ignorant of that.
True, but if he tells a woman too soon, it could scare them off. Finding that sweet spot of telling a woman just at the right time, before things get too serious but also not until things get serious enough, is tricky.
But that's the problem -- you're looking at it solely from the man's perspective, as if the woman were merely a prize that he was entitled to win if he made the right moves in the game, rather than a person with her own emotions that need to be respected and understood. We're not just talking about any random woman, we're talking about a woman who saw her husband die in front of her just eight months ago, and on her wedding day, no less. It is incredibly callous to think that her grief is merely an inconvenient obstacle to a man's ability to score. Caitlin was completely in the right here. She's still grieving for a terrible loss, and she had the courage to risk opening her heart to another chance at love. For Jay to allow her to take that risk with him when he knows he's sick and dying, when he knows it could lead to her suffering the same terrible loss twice in as many years, is selfish and cruel. He should never have let her think of him as a viable romantic candidate at all. He should have told her the truth as soon as they started to get close. If that meant he didn't get to be with her at all, so be it. He's not entitled to her. If you really care about someone, then you put their happiness and well-being above your own, even if that means walking away altogether. If you're wrong for them, if being with you would hurt them, then you walk the hell away. If you just see their pain as an obstacle you have to play around in order to get what you want, then you're just a selfish creep who doesn't deserve love.
^ I think that is overstating things a bit. Jay wasn't present when she lost her husband, so it is not something he directly felt the way the others did. To him it is history that he has heard about. He was the one who was avoiding intimacy while Caitlyn was the one pushing him to go out, and in fact he was ready to leave Earth 1 when Caitlyn talked him into staying, her showing obvious romantic motives. Knowing you are dying is at least as traumatic as losing a loved one, so why expect Jay to make all the correct decisions here?
The idea that if "you", meaning the man, really care about a woman you put her first is just as archaic and patriarchal as feeling entitled to her affections. None of us, male or female, actually live that way. Calling someone a selfish creep who doesn't deserve love because they don't make the exact correct choice all the time in relationships and, gasp, are driven by their own needs at times is pretty black and white thinking.
The show actually showed the situation from two perspectives. Barry was keeping information from Patty, and Patty was apparently keeping her own info from Barry. We could ask why Patty was so aggressively chasing Barry when she wasn't committed to her life in Central City. Does this make her a selfish creep who doesn't deserve love?
The idea that if "you", meaning the man, really care about a woman you put her first is just as archaic and patriarchal as feeling entitled to her affections. None of us, male or female, actually live that way. Calling someone a selfish creep who doesn't deserve love because they don't make the exact correct choice all the time in relationships and, gasp, are driven by their own needs at times is pretty black and white thinking.
The show actually showed the situation from two perspectives. Barry was keeping information from Patty, and Patty was apparently keeping her own info from Barry. We could ask why Patty was so aggressively chasing Barry when she wasn't committed to her life in Central City. Does this make her a selfish creep who doesn't deserve love?