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Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

The only thing that confuses me (and I know it's something you just have to accept) is that if everyone has a doppelganger on each planet, how does anyone throughout all of history have a different fate than their doppelganger? Everyone has to have at the very least mated with the same people they mated with on the other planet, at the same time, under similar circumstances, and they had to live at least long enough to have the same number of offspring.

Yet the differences between the two worlds are so vast, not only technologically and historically, but socially as well, that it's pretty much an impossibility for there to be even a single doppelganger.


Well the same applies even moreso to the Mirror Universe on Trek. As you said at the beginning, it something you just have to accept.
 
They said that time resents change backwards and forwards, so I can only imagine that the same is true side to side.

Cosmic forces are pushing couples together, answering to the same plan/endgame despite having to play through different fields of contrition.

(Yup. I'm talking about Angels. Bring it.)
 
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The episode description for Feb. 9 on my DVR is a bit spoilerish. You guys check it at your own peril.
 
Yep, about 3 months ago they started going out roughly two weeks ahead for the guide and scheduled recordings for me.
 
It's not a name, but a short description:
Jay takes over for Barry while Barry is out of town

My DVR is a bit more descriptive:

The Flash, S2 Ep13 Welcome to Earth 2

Barry, Wells and Cisco travel to Earth 2 to rescue Wells' daughter from Zoom, and encounter Killer Frost and Deathstorm. Meanwhile, back on Earth 1, Jay takes over the Flash's duties when a meta-human nicknamed Geomancer attacks Central City.
 
Why is the fact Reverse Flash is Barry's nemesis almost 150 years in the future something just glossed over? I mean HELLO you are gonna still be alive and be capable of fighting someone as fast as Reverse Flash that far into the future? But there's never any reaction or conversation about it. Does Barry's cells continually regenerate at his current age? Shouldn't he then speculate as what that would mean for a relationship with not aging?
 
When did they establish that? Traditionally, Reverse Flash is from the future and one time travels to fight the other.
 
Why is the fact Reverse Flash is Barry's nemesis almost 150 years in the future something just glossed over? I mean HELLO you are gonna still be alive and be capable of fighting someone as fast as Reverse Flash that far into the future? But there's never any reaction or conversation about it. Does Barry's cells continually regenerate at his current age? Shouldn't he then speculate as what that would mean for a relationship with not aging?

Reverse Flash comes from 150 years in the future, but he's a time traveler, and his enmity with Barry happens during Barry's lifetime. Remember, this is based on storylines from the comics, in which Thawne traveled back in time and became the Flash's recurring enemy in the then-present day. Sort of like The Terminator -- the villain comes from the future, but the conflict is in the present.
 
I assumed that Barry skipped over a few decades on his way to 2160ish?

Although because they don't know where the Flash is from in 2160ish, that means that the Flash has hidden his origin and appeared in many decades before and after before 2015 and after. Barry may even act as a guardian of the Earth for several centuries after 2165, that Eobard could have been fooled into thinking that possibly the flash is from his own future, and not the past at all.
 
When did they establish that? Traditionally, Reverse Flash is from the future and one time travels to fight the other.

Yep. The series is really playing a lot with the Mark Waid idea from the comics.

Thawne was an obsessed fan of the Flash; so much that he even had facial reconstruction to look like Barry. He then traveled back in time to finally meet Barry in person and get his autograph; but he instead ended up in the Flash Museum looking at an exhibit that said Eobard Thawne was the greatest enemy of the Flash. Thawne was already unhinged mentally (i.e. his obsession) but learning that made him snap. From there on Thawne just lived out the role he believed history had dictated to him.

There really is no reason for Thawne to hate the Flash. Thawne hates Flash because he's supposed to hate Flash. It's a closed loop.
 
(spoilers, duh)

Patty's earned her place on team Flash, if she wants it. She knows that Barry loves her, she knows he's the Flash. He knows that she knows, and she knows that he knows she knows. I think she gets it that Barry tried to keep her in the dark for her own safety. I think she'll be back. Maybe she can be an undercover member of the team. ;)
 
Barry took his supposed sentence of a century of singledom fairly well... though there is always that Iris West-Allen future newspaper byline, I guess.

Finally more than just a passing glimpse of Captain Love! Hooray! :bolian:
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"How would you like your suit displayed?!"


... I get that Wally West is a significant character in the comics and all, but I have yet to give a crap about him on the show, and am only slightly more interested in the whole Francine soap operatics. Other than those seemingly random scenes, a great ep all around. :D

 
Why is the fact Reverse Flash is Barry's nemesis almost 150 years in the future something just glossed over? I mean HELLO you are gonna still be alive and be capable of fighting someone as fast as Reverse Flash that far into the future? But there's never any reaction or conversation about it.

Yeah, it is a bit confusing, but then time travel always is. ;)
It is actually mentioned in conversation. At the end of the episode when Joe and Barry have a talk Joe says something along the lines of "you can do amazing things and now we know you'll still be doing them in a 100 years but you'll be loaded with sacrifices...."
So I'm not sure how to take that, is Barry immortal, or does he have a normal lifespan but will travel to different time periods and help all over time?

I'm sort of leaning towards the second option, and it does make sense when you take time travel into account. Although Eobard does often speak about them as contemporaries, what does "contemporaries" even mean when you can freely move about through time?
So I reckon Thawne is from the future, and he originally travels back in time to fight Flash, then Barry travels forward in time to fight Thawne. Then they fight all over time to the point where it's unclear to Thawne from which time Barry originally is and then... oh no I've gone crosseyed. :cardie:
 
It's really not all that complicated. They're just establishing their own time travel rules in order to explain why Eddie's actions didn't cause a paradox, while theirs very nearly. Because if he had wiped Eobard utterly from existence then none of the events leading to that sacrifice would have happened.

Apparently the cosmos can self-adjust to deal with one paradox, but it gets downright stubborn if two pop-up in the same causality chain.
 
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