The Flash - Season 1

[Guy Gardener]

They won a pub quiz... Although Felicity might have been responsible for that.

How old are they really?

Barry wasn't old enough to drink on Green Arrow (then he spent a year in a coma) so we are looking at people who are 20 or 21, which is probably just the beginning of a graduate degree... Maybe Barry skipped a couple grades since he's already out in the workforce as... What multitude of qualifications do you need to be a CSI or/and forensic scientist that he skipped a lot of grades to get out of school so early?

(Did Joe pay for his education? Joe just became super awesome in my books. Although if all went as he expected, half of every thing Barry would make for the rest of his life would belong to Joe's daughter Iris. Oh, that's sneaky. )

Had a thought about Iris.

What if she goes all in with Eddie?

Eobard admits that he is an insane super villain from the 25th century here to destroy the Flash and take over the world, and she goes with it, decides that "the Streak" who she has no personal connection with at all hasn't really done nothing for her, and at the end of it she gets to rule the world by Eddie's side as Queen Iris the first.

Everybody wants to rule the world.

 

[davejames]

Well not every guy is looking to date a brainiac. I imagine Barry probably finds Iris really fun and charming to be around, and someone who probably shares his sense of humor and has similar interests, etc. I'm sure for most guys those things would be more than enough.

Plus I wouldn't expect anyone in their mid 20s to have everything figured out anyway. Or to not still come across a bit shallow and immature at times.

 

[Morpheus 02]

(and can definitely understand why Barry would be so hung up on her).

I'd agree if it were purely a matter of looks; she's gorgeous. But both in personality and performance, she strikes me as kind of shallow and unintelligent. I'm not really all that engaged by her except on a visual level.

I think that this is a fault of the material the character has been given so far. She's obviously supposed to very intelligent. She's a graduate student, after all. Unfortunately, we haven't seen anything that actually displays her intelligence. In fact, I can't even recall what her major is at the moment.

If she were a political scientist or an economist or sociologist then we as the viewers she see evidence of this expertise, hopefully being integral to the plot at some point.

i thought she was in grad school...but she's taking journalism classes like it was an elective -- and grad school generally doesn't do electives like that. So unless she did the opposite of Barry (i.e. take some time off to do something like Peace Corps...we also know she was attempting to do the police academy before being discourage by her father), and is just now finishing her undergrad, it's kinda confusing as to what her education level is.



i agree -- it's the writing making her seem shallow... they learned the lesson of det. Lance in Arrow through Joe...hope they notice it with Iris before it's "too late". Other than simply TELLING Barry (and the audience) that she thinks Barry is special, it'd be nice to see how that plays out in her life...and how/what she see her life going. I think, unlike Barry, she's really trying to find herself, and her future isn't as clear to her as it is for Barry.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Barry fell in love with Iris too early.

They were 12.

She could burn a homeless person every Friday night, and he'd be fine with that, because once you fall in love with a person, it's almost impossible to fall out of love with them until after you've bumped fuzzies.

 

[Mr Light]

Fuzzies? This is 2014, man. I think you mean baldies.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Porn is lies, or you've been sleeping with a lot of over achievers.

 

[TemporalFlux]

They just need to go the Wally West route and let everybody know the identity of the Flash. It works fine, and the secret I.d. thing gets old.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Barry was unmasked in court during his trial for murdering Professor Zoom.

Working out who Kid Flash was from there was childsplay.

What was the Fallout from Nightwing being unmasked nearly a year ago?

Unless most didn't know that Nightwing = Robin, then Batman's secret identity should be in the wind.

Although Lex Luthor is making a huge deal about how smart he is or uncowling the Bat.

Smug Git.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What was the Fallout from Nightwing being unmasked nearly a year ago?

Nightwing died but Grayson lived. No real fallout since Batman and Bruce Wayne worked together in Batman, Inc. Wayne let Batman make his ward into an operative is the common thought.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Cowards.

I loved it when Daredevil got unmasked.

"Where are they? Whare are all your enemies Matt? They know who you are, and where you live and there's nothing. It's quiet. I think it's pretty obvious what is happening, all those costumed lunatics you've been fighting for the last 10 years are terrified of you. You. Your secret identity used to protect them, there were rules. They'd fight a costume and a costume would fight them back, but now you're just another psychopath who beats people to death like they do."

 

[The Old Mixer]

Barry was unmasked in court during his trial for murdering Professor Zoom.

Working out who Kid Flash was from there was childsplay.

Not really. Wally was a nephew who lived in another town. Kid Flash could have been anybody. It wasn't as obvious as a Batman & Robin / Bruce Wayne & Dick Grayson situation.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I assumed that if I said something that was wrong, that the smart people here would correct me.

From Green Arrow #17 by Brad Meltzer (2003)

Green Arrow: "It actually started with Barry. When he died, we all lost a friend. But Hal [Jordan, Green Lantern] lost a brother. It was Hal’s idea to gather Barry’s keepsakes. Not just to honor him... but to protect his identity and those close to him. Unlike Barry, though, we weren't fast enough. The [Flash] Museum opened its newest exhibit six months later, and the whole world knew. Take it from me... that's the real reason Wally went public."

This is hilarious...

And cut to Wally's own series, Flash #1-2 (06 & 7/87, written by Mike Baron), where alas!, his identity is still a secret. Not a very well-guarded or important one, but still a secret. For instance... when he's called by a Hospital to help them with the transportation of a heart for a transplant, he is surprised they found him at home (the Hospital was given his home number by the Titans).

Ah the unmasking in court was bullshit!

(a comic I owned at the time. The last panel of the book is the unmasking and then I didn't have the next issue.)

Once the trial was over and the Flash (Barry) was declared innocent, he went to the future with his then- presumed-dead- wife- returned-from-the- future Iris, his identity still a secret to the world (he was unmasked by his Attorney during the trial, but thanks to a Gorilla City plastic surgery, his face was altered and no one recognized him. Once he got to the future, his looks were restored).

I've been drawing quotes from here...

http://www.comicbookbin.com/wally01.html

Point is, from glancing through this well researched essay, Wally never officially came out as the Flash, he just stopped keeping the secret identity secret until everyone knew by word of mouth that it was the truth and not a big deal at all.

DC forgot to give him a party.

(edit)

Iris Allen's tell all biography on her husbands life can't have helped either... Lets just work this out, Iris in the 30th century writes a book, and then goes back in time to 1994 to publish it, the profits of which are deposited into a bank account that will not only accrue interest for a thousand years, but survive at least one nuclear war, as well as translate into 30th century credits.

That's cold.

 

[davejames]

Very small bit of news, but sounds like we'll be seeing the costume evolve and get the classic white and gold emblem at some point. Whether that was the original plan or because they realized the red just didn't look as good, I don't know. But glad to hear it'll be changed.

http://tvline.com/2014/11/18/the-flash-season-1-spoilers-grodd-new-powers-arrow-crossover/

 

[OdoWanKenobi]

Joe and Wells are having a drink at Warriors! Guy Gardner's bar. Awesome.

 

[Christopher]

Interesting parallels with the narration of the pilot. And thank goodness the Flash is finally the Flash!

So who's going to pay for all those broken windows and the smashed school door?

Took me a while to recognize that the bad guy was Drake from Star-Crossed. I knew I'd seen him before, but it took me a while to place him.

Kind of risky for Barry to show his face to the bad guy at the end. What if he breaks out of the Pipeline? Bad guys always break out of unbreachable prisons sooner or later.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The super sonic punch was stupid.

Punching nothing would have been as harmful to Barry as Punching steel at that speed.

Which means that the faster he went the less self harm he should have caused to himself from throwing a punch.

Punching steel should have been as bracing as running through walls.



I kept screaming "JUDO" at the TV.

Hell just spinning him in circles like a centrifuge would have tossed the boy miles away, and the landing would have been irksome.

Or heat.

A super sonic rubdown would have fused Girders steel flesh together... No, it would have liquidized him, and then an hour later as he cooled, he probably would have been in no humanlike shape at all.

Dudes gotta breathe?

Create a vacuum with speed, stuff something down his throat too quickly to stop, or use knock out gass.

Pick him up, or drag him through the streets for a hundred miles in a fraction of a second to some place "difficult".

Take his pants. Most sane people don't commit crimes naked.

Timing a sonic boom to go boom right by his ear would jellify his brain or at least destroy any hope at equilibrium for the next year.

Meanwhile he actually turns to metal very slowly, Barry should be able to punch flesh before it turns to metal without too much difficulty, especially if the big dumb galoot has been stripped naked.

But the winner is...

Finding the natural "Resonance" (Never, never shake a baby!) of Girder's flesh would either transmute him bodily into a different compound or disintegrate him entirely just by shaking the bastard at a precise speed.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Very small bit of news, but sounds like we'll be seeing the costume evolve and get the classic white and gold emblem at some point. Whether that was the original plan or because they realized the red just didn't look as good, I don't know. But glad to hear it'll be changed.

http://tvline.com/2014/11/18/the-flash-season-1-spoilers-grodd-new-powers-arrow-crossover/

Wells' future newspaper in the Pilot had a picture of the Flash with the white and gold emblem.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Absorbing Man!

 

[Guy Gardener]

He's not absorbing anything.

Girder is from the comics.

(I had to google him. They keep choosing very minor characters to give episodes to.)

He turns into metal.

 

[Brent]

Is Dr. Wells Reverse Flash!?!?!?

I dunno, but it was very ominous and with the end there, it points to Dr. Wells.

I am almost more excited about the last few minutes of the episodes, then the episodes themselves.