Did you adjust for inflation so all the movies are in current dollars and then sum the current dollars?
Mr Awe
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Did you adjust for inflation so all the movies are in current dollars and then sum the current dollars?
Mr Awe
So much of the technobabble in the Trek spinoffs was meaningless made-up deus-ex-machina gibberish that had nothing to do with real-world science or technology, so I don't see how anybody would be using it on a daily basis in real life.
Kor
Nope. But I also didn't subtract TMP, 2009 or Into Darkness, when talking about director comparisons.
STID was in the theater for months. There was plenty of time to see it.
STID also did worse domestically on Blu-Ray/DVD than ST2009.
I don't understand Overmind One's comment about "now the Beastie Boys is our soundtrack," since that's been there since ST09.
Besides, in the 23rd century, the Beastie Boys will be regarded as ancient classical music. (cf Futurama with Fry listening to Sir Mix-a-lot)
Kor
"Besides, in the 23rd century, the Beastie Boys will be regarded as ancient classical music." TRUE!
The 2009 movie and Star Trek Into Dumbness is a tiny fraction of Trek, and from my perspective, it is off-canon and not Trek. Just the fact that in the 2009 movie there was a vintage Corvette which was operational and gassed up is laughable, considering he was being chased by a Cop droid on a hoverbike.
. Who could forget the Nokia product placement? Beastie Boys and Trek never should have met on the big screen.Count me in the "NuTrek Sucks!" group.
To me, it's already time for a new reboot.
Precisely - way too much. Very lazy writing.
I feel like adjusted for inflation numbers are fairly moot, no?
It's just a hypothetical "what if" scenario of "if the movie were made today it's box office would have been this".
It doesn't have to be anything but techobabble to inspire us to go into our chosen fields that actually explore and discover the real answers. Ponder that.
So much of the technobabble in the Trek spinoffs was meaningless made-up deus-ex-machina gibberish that had nothing to do with real-world science or technology, so I don't see how anybody would be using it on a daily basis in real life.
So much of the technobabble in the Trek spinoffs was meaningless made-up deus-ex-machina gibberish that had nothing to do with real-world science or technology, so I don't see how anybody would be using it on a daily basis in real life.
Kor
Sure, some of it was. But lots of it was not.
There is no way to explain the Q away as being other than escapees from Bewitched. And the sentient Doctor hologram of Voyager was ridiculous. Still, none of that ruined the fendamental foundations of Star Trek like magic Kahn reanimation blood, or Red Matter, or transwarp beaming. In this movie, the transporter is working so why don't they just beam everyone to earth from wherever they are? Nobody has to worry about being killed, as I'm sure there is a stash of magic tribble blood on hand to bring them back to life. Deus Ex Machina indeed!
Sure, some of it was. But lots of it was not.
There's no way you've ever watched Star Trek and can make this argument with a straight face!
It doesn't have to be anything but techobabble to inspire us to go into our chosen fields that actually explore and discover the real answers. Ponder that.
So much of the technobabble in the Trek spinoffs was meaningless made-up deus-ex-machina gibberish that had nothing to do with real-world science or technology, so I don't see how anybody would be using it on a daily basis in real life.
WELL SAID. I am an IT professional today because of Star Trek. I have friends who joined NASA because of Trek. It was seeting Uhura's earpiece and the TOS communicators which motivated some geek somewhere to make them real, and that is exactly what they did.
Nope. You're just plain wrong on this Dennis. The box office for older Trek movies are based on *very* deflated dollars and have to be adjusted to provide for a valid comparison.
Mr Awe
Every single piece of that car, including the coolant, gas, oil, differential and transmission fluid could have been easily produced in a replicator. They may have even been all assembled using an industrial replicator, so long as the computer doing the assembly had accurate OEM schematics.
Instead of gas, it might have had a Federation version of the "Mr. Fusion Home Reactor" in it with a killer-ass sound system designed to make the kind of VROOM noise that only a 396 big block could make in a '65 Stingray.
So...not really.
Don't try to confuse him with facts.
Sure, some of it was. But lots of it was not.
There's no way you've ever watched Star Trek and can make this argument with a straight face!
Um, what? I was watching Star Trek in 1966 when it was new on TV. I was part of the fandom which pushed to bring it back and that resulted in STTMP, TNG and the subsequent series that followed. I have seen all of the movies including the NuTrek wannabe Trek movies. So, yeah, I am saying it with a straight face (only I just added a smirk).
So much of the technobabble in the Trek spinoffs was meaningless made-up deus-ex-machina gibberish that had nothing to do with real-world science or technology, so I don't see how anybody would be using it on a daily basis in real life.
Kor
Sure, some of it was. But lots of it was not.
But the Genesis Torpedo! THAT WAS THE HIGH BAR OF ACCURATE STAR TREK SCIENCE!
You can certainly cherry pick with the best of them.
Yeah? Replicator technology did not exist at that time in the Trek timeline, and we have seen NO replicators in any of the NuTrek films. They have mechanical phasers fer chrissakes!
There's a big difference between "We consulted NASA for some interesting space-based phenomenon that we might base a story around" and "We're going to literally insert "tech" into the script and then have the actors run at the mouth with stuff that makes no sense and is utterly boring to listen to.
It's also incredibly thoughtless.
"Captain, their bullshit is bullshitting our bullshit."
"Well re-modulate the bullshit and standby to counter-bullshit on my command."
I can see how some engineering marvel like The Dyson Sphere in Relics, might have inspired a person to get into one of the scientific or engineering fields. I can't imagine the technobabble of Voyager or latter day TNG inspired anyone to get into anything but their bed and take a nap.
It's also incredibly thoughtless.
"Captain, their bullshit is bullshitting our bullshit."
"Well re-modulate the bullshit and standby to counter-bullshit on my command."
I can see how some engineering marvel like The Dyson Sphere in Relics, might have inspired a person to get into one of the scientific or engineering fields. I can't imagine the technobabble of Voyager or latter day TNG inspired anyone to get into anything but their bed and take a nap.
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