The Fired thread

[Mr. Laser Beam]

There's this loser who works at my store who is the most uncooperative, insubordinate jackass I've ever met. Apparently he's been fired from at least two other stores (in our chain) and we're the only one that will still have him.

So why hasn't my store fired his ass? Get ready for this, it's a doozy...

His mother threatened to sue the store if we fired him.

She can't do that, can she?

 

[SeerSGB]

There's this loser who works at my store who is the most uncooperative, insubordinate jackass I've ever met. Apparently he's been fired from at least two other stores (in our chain) and we're the only one that will still have him.

So why hasn't my store fired his ass? Get ready for this, it's a doozy...

His mother threatened to sue the store if we fired him.

She can't do that, can she?

Depends, really. If he has some sort of physical or mental disability, yeah she might be able to get a sleaze bag lawyer to get into to court.

If she's already made the threat, the store is likely going to get sued anyway. So I say fuck and bite the bullet. Just make sure they have an ironclad reason when they do it and not some bullshit vague excuse.

 

[Lookingglassman]

I was going to get fired from a job as a supervisor at a troubled boys home, but I quit before the supervisor could fire me. She didnt like me because I wouldnt go along with her program. Her program consisted of scheming to throw out boys whose insurance was going to run out.

This shrew wanted me to yank all the priviledges and allow other boys to harrass this 11 year old kid because "his insurance is running out and I already have another boy who has insurance lined up to take his spot so I need you to do all you can to give me a reason to throw this kid out."

Well I dont abuse young kids, especially ones who were raised in a dog cage as a baby (this is where the cops found him. His parents fed him through the bars of the cage and left him there to rot).

I wouldnt go along with it so word filtered down I was going to get fired so I walked out and never went back. I also sent a nice letter to her telling her what I thought about her and one to the local authorities about her practices.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If he has some sort of physical or mental disability, yeah she might be able to get a sleaze bag lawyer to get into to court.

He is slightly hearing impaired, although most of the people I work with don't know it. In any case, I thought the store had the absolute right to fire him, if it's for cause - i.e. due to job performance (or lack thereof).

I mean, I have nothing against the disabled, but in his case, just because he has a slight disability doesn't give him the right to act like an ass.

 

[Alpha Romeo]

There's this loser who works at my store who is the most uncooperative, insubordinate jackass I've ever met. Apparently he's been fired from at least two other stores (in our chain) and we're the only one that will still have him.

So why hasn't my store fired his ass? Get ready for this, it's a doozy...

His mother threatened to sue the store if we fired him.

She can't do that, can she?

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. It's a question of whether they'll win or not. In your case, I highly doubt the action would get a nywhere if he is as much as a fuck up as you say.

EDIT: It doesn't matter whether he has a disability if you haven't mistreated him based on that disability. In your case, he's a fuck up. That has nothing to do with his disability.

 

[RoJoHen]

Employable age is 18. That means in the next 18 years until the age of 36 that "average" person would hold 24 jobs.

24 jobs/ 18 years = 1.3333, or one job every 9 months.

Sounds like the "average" person sucks at working.

 

[SeerSGB]

There's this loser who works at my store who is the most uncooperative, insubordinate jackass I've ever met. Apparently he's been fired from at least two other stores (in our chain) and we're the only one that will still have him.

So why hasn't my store fired his ass? Get ready for this, it's a doozy...

His mother threatened to sue the store if we fired him.

She can't do that, can she?

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. It's a question of whether they'll win or not. In your case, I highly doubt the action would get a nywhere if he is as much as a fuck up as you say.

EDIT: It doesn't matter whether he has a disability if you haven't mistreated him based on that disability. In your case, he's a fuck up. That has nothing to do with his disability.

Well it depends: If he's a fuck up, and there's a paper trail of reprimands and correctional training, he was given every chance to "work around" any impact his impairment might have on his job. Otherwise, it boils done to his word against theirs and how good an actor he is.

I been in Dodge with this one a couple of times in past jobs. Co-workers that got shit canned for being shitty employees or just for "hire and fire at will" and next thing you know here's comes the lawyers: "They have such-and-such mental/physical disorder that impacts their job, did you try to work with them?"

One got paid off on a "Visual impairment that impended their ability to read computer screens". They fucked up orders all the time, and never said anything about needing larger fonts on the monitor, eventually they ended getting fired, four days later here comes their attorney hollering "lawsuit!".

My mother got dragged into one back in the 90s when one of her employees (she was a Co-Manager) was busted stealing money. We're not talking a 5 here or there, we're talking several thousand dollars in bank deposits. Nothing in his file or disclosures about any sort of medical or mental disorder. They fire his ass, and file charges. First thing he did was call an attorney, went to a "psychiatrist" and was diagnosed as having Kleptomania (sp). It went to court and he won; then tried to sue the county sheriff for "wrongful arrest" and "violation of the American with disablity act", that one got dropped kicked out of court.

That's why it's important to document, document, document, everything. Not necessairly formal write ups, but make a note in the Daily Log (or equivelant) that Empolyee "X" did "Y" or "Did not do assigned duties due to..."

 

[Captain Ice]

Sorry to hear about your predicament, Borgified Corpse.

As for getting fired, it's happened to me twice. On applications/resumes, I just tell them it didn't work out. I have jobs both before and after where I've been employed for more than five years, and one in between where I was laid off after a year due to closing the location.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

he was given every chance to "work around" any impact his impairment might have on his job.

See, that's the thing. His impairment is having *no* impact on his job. He's not a crappy worker because he needs a hearing aid, he's a crappy worker because he is an asshole who won't follow orders and treats his coworkers like shit.

 

[SeerSGB]

he was given every chance to "work around" any impact his impairment might have on his job.

See, that's the thing. His impairment is having *no* impact on his job. He's not a crappy worker because he needs a hearing aid, he's a crappy worker because he is an asshole who won't follow orders and treats his coworkers like shit.

But do they have a paper trail of that, have they tried to talk to him? These are all things that look bad on the company if they don't have a record.

To put it another way: He's a asshole and can't follow orders cause of his bad hearing, they're not being understanding of his impairment. They didn't even try to work with this poor man, they just fired him.

If the mother is already hollering lawsuit, they're going to get fucked with one at some point regardless. The best thing would be start running a displinary file and start running down the pre-termination guidelines in the employee handbook.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

he was given every chance to "work around" any impact his impairment might have on his job.

See, that's the thing. His impairment is having *no* impact on his job. He's not a crappy worker because he needs a hearing aid, he's a crappy worker because he is an asshole who won't follow orders and treats his coworkers like shit.

But do they have a paper trail of that, have they tried to talk to him?

Many, many times.

I'm forced to conclude that our managers are simply gutless cowards.

 

[od0_ital]

Employable age is 18. That means in the next 18 years until the age of 36 that "average" person would hold 24 jobs.

24 jobs/ 18 years = 1.3333, or one job every 9 months.

You're mistake is goin' from 18 to 36.

Employable age in the US is 16, and some places (fast food/movie theaters/gas stations) will hire high schoolers who are 15.

That's up to 21 years of employment.

Also, think about summer jobs, part time work, workin' two jobs at once. Is anything you did for income as a teenage what your career is now? Anyone you know?

Minimum wage jobs suck, and should be ditched at the earliest opportunity.

I filled out an application recently, asking for a complete job history - every job I've had since I started workin' at the age of sixteen. Screw that! I can barely every job I've had, some of which I didn't even count (Jack in the Box for one night, McDonald's for a week) after I quit from 'em & applied for the next job!

 

[Squiggy]

Ok. Adding three more years onto that still gives you a new job every 10.5 months, still less than one a year as an average and insanely stupid to consider that an "average". How many people do you really know who's starting a new job twice within one calender year, every year, during their teens until middle age? And that's just the "average" meaning that counting all those doctors and lawyers, and other professionals there are people apparently getting a new job every week to offset their longevity.

I worked in radio, and as such am well aware of the difficulty in keeping a job. However, the only job I worked at less than 10 months was my very first summer job bagging groceries at Kroger when I was 16. All told, I've had 7 jobs in the past 14 years and that's more than everyone else I know.

 

[RoJoHen]

I've been in the workforce 8.5 years (which is absurd because I feel like I've been working forever), and I just started by 5th job at age 24. 2 of my previous jobs only lasted a couple months, but they were second jobs on top of my main job. Otherwise, my first job lasted 5 years (even when I was in school, I was always welcomed back during breaks), and my last job lasted 3.5 years. I've never been fired.

I think it's probably easy for younger people to go through quite a few part-time jobs, but once you reach your mid-20s you should probably be searching for some kind of stability. I just started my 5th job, and I think I might search for another one next year once I've gained some experience, but I really don't see much changing after that.

Is this study including promotions or different positions within the same company? I mean, if that's the case, I've had 8 "jobs," but they were all within the same company.

 

[Lindley]

I think I'm on my third job job at age 26. There were several others when I was younger, but I don't count things like getting paid to help the builder work on my mother's property, making a web page for my father, or unpaid internships.

 

[Strider]

Ritual suicide is widely regarded as the most effective means of wiping away the stain of dishonor. Failing that, just learn to keep your mouth shut at your new job. Your attitude obviously wasn't appreciated.