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The Federation is a military group

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It is clear the Federation Of Planets is a military organization. They have rank, military courts and enforce orders through Star Fleet Command. In This Side of Paradise the Enterprise arrives at Omicron Ceti III with orders to remove a population who don't want to go. It is clear the objection Kirk has to the way the colony lives is they are not a military society.
 
It is clear the Federation Of Planets is a military organization. They have rank, military courts and enforce orders through Star Fleet Command. In This Side of Paradise the Enterprise arrives at Omicron Ceti III with orders to remove a population who don't want to go. It is clear the objection Kirk has to the way the colony lives is they are not a military society.
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It is clear the Federation Of Planets is a military organization. They have rank, military courts and enforce orders through Star Fleet Command. In This Side of Paradise the Enterprise arrives at Omicron Ceti III with orders to remove a population who don't want to go. It is clear the objection Kirk has to the way the colony lives is they are not a military society.

You seem to be confusing the civilian government with an armed, militarized organization within that government.

The civilian government directs the armed militarized organization called Starfleet. Like other militaries, Starfleet uses weapons, fights conflicts, and performs scientific, exploratory, or humanitarian missions. Starfleet has JAG officers and enforces order and discipline in the ranks through military style court martials.

In contrast, Federation civilians are not subject to Starfleet control. Police protect and serve the civilian population. Federal court systems exert judicial control and civilians are appointed to run the government.

There are times when the civilian government uses Starfleet in the same way Earth governments today may call upon the military to assist local civilian authorities in times of crisis.
 
It is clear the Federation Of Planets is a military organization.

Welcome to the board. :)

As others have said, you're confusing the UFP with Starfleet.

. It is clear the objection Kirk has to the way the colony lives is they are not a military society.

Kirk doesn't object to the colonists' lifestyle, he objects to the spores' influence on them robbing them of their motivation to progress. Kirk was only moving them away from the dangerous radiation, They were no doubt going to another planet.

It was never stated in TOS that Starfleet was not a military organization. That notion came much later during TNG.

This exactly. I don't know why this is even a question. Starfleet is the Space US Navy in the original series.

Kirk: "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat."
 

Even when it isn't being said to me, this one-word reply strikes me rude and off-putting. I hate it.

Just saying No, and stopping there, is intended as an insult, like saying "You are not worth replying to." But honestly, it makes it look like the nay-sayer doesn't have an idea in her head for how to answer what she disagrees with.
 
Welcome to the board. :)

As others have said, you're confusing the UFP with Starfleet.



Kirk doesn't object to the colonists' lifestyle, he objects to the spores' influence on them robbing them of their motivation to progress. Kirk was only moving them away from the dangerous radiation, They were no doubt going to another planet.



This exactly. I don't know why this is even a question. Starfleet is the Space US Navy in the original series.

Kirk: "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat."

To be fair to the OP, Star Trek ‘09 perpetuates that confusion with the line where Pike describes the Federation as a humanitarian armada. He obviously means Starfleet — the line is nonsensical otherwise, like calling the United States a navy — but that’s the line as said onscreen.
 
Writers Bible and later interpretation muddled things.
Exactly, it's a "combined service" as I believe made it to dialogue in an episode series description. I'm not sure why this strains people's brains so much, both can be true.

Sometimes Kirk stresses one, sometimes the other.

Even when it isn't being said to me, this one-word reply strikes me rude and off-putting. I hate it.

Just saying No, and stopping there, is intended as an insult, like saying "You are not worth replying to." But honestly, it makes it look like the nay-sayer doesn't have an idea in her head for how to answer what she disagrees with.

I'm not responsible for how you were raised. Yes, I thought it was obvious that "no" was a simple and correct answer to a simple question with plenty of self-evident backing.
 
Exactly, it's a "combined service" as I believe made it to dialogue in an episode series description. I'm not sure why this strains people's brains so much, both can be true.

Combined with what, though? The episode you're referring to is "Tomorrow Is Yesterday."

Christopher: "Did the Navy...?"
Kirk: "We're a combined service, Captain."


Kirk didn't specify. Could be the Navy and the space program. (shrug)

The Enterprise is primarily used as a Naval vessel. The US Navy does execute diplomatic missions, so this is not a strange concept for Starfleet to do within a military organization and Starfleet is based on and run like a US military organization. That's baked into the premise of a series created and run by US veterans.
 
Combined with what, though? The episode you're referring to is "Tomorrow Is Yesterday."

Christopher: "Did the Navy...?"
Kirk: "We're a combined service, Captain."


Kirk didn't specify. Could be the Navy and the space program. (shrug)

The Enterprise is primarily used as a Naval vessel. The US Navy does execute diplomatic missions, so this is not a strange concept for Starfleet to do within a military organization and Starfleet is based on and run like a US military organization. That's baked into the premise of a series created and run by US veterans.
I always took it to mean all military branches were combined to become Starfleet.
 
Exactly, it's a "combined service" as I believe made it to dialogue in an episode series description. I'm not sure why this strains people's brains so much, both can be true.

Sometimes Kirk stresses one, sometimes the other.
Because the idea of "both can be true" strains the brain. The pop culture idea, as well as general reticence and anti-military attitude of later Trek, colors this idea significant in the perception. It can't be a military because militaries go out and conquer and destroy and all manner of unpleasantness people don't like to associate with their fantasy of Star Trek.

Of course two things can be true, and can be better for it because it shows the way of striking a balance between duty and humane efforts. Current US Military assignments reflect that, including research, diplomatic services, engineering efforts, and other scientific efforts.

The disciplined nature of military service is one that I think few understand unless they actually sit down and do research about it, and learn from service members and military veterans. And the same goes for law enforcement as well. These are separate and distinct cultures in some ways compared to civilian efforts and so would look differently than perhaps the general public is aware of.
 
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