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The fate of Romulus?

Given the commerical success of the new Star Trek film, I imagine Trek Literature will be eager to catch up to 2387 and show the ramifications of the destruction of Romulus.

Personally, I think it is a tragedy that the Trek universe has lost such an integral part of the galactic landscape.

I feel apprehensive about the future of Star Trek and the ideals it stood for.

Still, it will be interesting to see how the fate of Romulus plays out in the 'Prime' universe.

The Trek Lit lines doesn't have to "catch up" to tell a story about the destruction of Romulus. They can tell stories at any point in the timeline they want. All it takes is for one of the authors to get a good idea and pitch it successfully.

And, not to play down the tragedy, but the destruction of Romulus is pretty small potatoes compared to the devastation caused by the Borg in Destiny.
 
Here's a question...

Was the impending fate of Romulus known when Destiny was pitched/being written. Was there a sanction from the studio at any point during the process saying nuke what ever planets you want, but leave Romulus alone, we'll need it intact for the movie?

Say the movie had never happened, and Romulus had instead been wasted by the Borg in Destiny. Would this discussion still be taking place, or would Trek Lit aficionados accept the change in the 'verse with good grace?
 
Given the commerical success of the new Star Trek film, I imagine Trek Literature will be eager to catch up to 2387 and show the ramifications of the destruction of Romulus.

I dont know, the vast, vast, vast majority of people who paid to see the new Trek film, and made it a commercial success, will never go near a book shop looking for Trek books. So why rush the books further ahead than where they are and gloss over the stories and events that are happening now, just so they can have themselves in a post-Romulus era?

Plus anyone interested in follow up to the movie would probably buy the NuTrek books that Pocket is starting to come out with in 2010.
 
Well, I've grown quite attached to Romulus and the glimpses we've had of Ki Baratan, the firefalls, the native flora and fauna, etc. "Vulcan's Heart", "Vulcan's Soul", "Taking Wing", "Catalyst of Sorrows" and episodes like "Unification" and "Inter Arma..." all made good use of the setting for at least part of the story. I think locations are as important to the stories as character, and I'm not fond of their sudden destruction for no particular reason. It's true that story-telling potential has certainly not been damaged by the loss of Romulus (it may in fact have grown, and I trust the authors to make good use of the opportunities), but it's a shame to invest in a location, explore it, set multiple stories or parts of there, only for it to then be totally wiped off the map.

As several others have said, there's no reason to treat Romulus as a location that will never be seen again. There's still plenty of room left for stories set in the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th centuries. The tales of the Earth-Romulan War that begin with next year's Beneath the Raptor's Wing will most likely spend a lot of time on 22nd-century Romulus. And there will still be five or six years' worth (in-universe) of stories to tell about Romulus in the Typhon Pact era. John Byrne has been doing a whole series of IDW comics about the Romulans in the timeframe of TOS, and Vanguard could potentially cover that as well. So there's no reason to assume that stories set on Romulus have to come to an end anytime soon. ST literature is free to explore the entire sweep of ST history.

It's not destruction that's the problem, it's simply that, unfortunately and as a result of this unavoidable collision of canon and novels (which the novels must, of course, give way on) the destruction of Romulus has no real meaning to the ongoing story. The devastation on Cardassia had meaning, as it was a natural outcome of the path that world and the galaxy as a whole had taken, sad as the outcome was. The loss of the worlds in the "Destiny" trilogy also had meaning, as again this was a logical outcome of the path the Federation and Borg had been on from their first contact.... However, while the loss of Romulus logically motivates this destruction of Vulcan and so (again, to be fair) has meaning for that new timeline, what meaning does it have in the Prime timeline?

How much "meaning" did Hurricane Katrina have to the history of New Orleans? It wasn't some dramatically significant outgrowth of previous events in the city's life; it was an arbitrary natural disaster. Destruction is frequently meaningless. The meaning lies in how people deal with its consequences, and what it exposes about the strengths and weaknesses of the society forced to cope with it.

Arguably nothing in life has an intrinsic meaning, because meaning is a consequence of perception and thought. Things only mean something to the people who observe and experience them. So the meaning of an event is something that is constructed in its wake, not something that precedes it.

Many times over the years, the screen canon has thrown things at us that we didn't expect. And the books have adapted and found ways to explore the meaning of those events, often in far more depth than the shows or films could.
 
Well, I've grown quite attached to Romulus and the glimpses we've had of Ki Baratan, the firefalls, the native flora and fauna, etc. "Vulcan's Heart", "Vulcan's Soul", "Taking Wing", "Catalyst of Sorrows" and episodes like "Unification" and "Inter Arma..." all made good use of the setting for at least part of the story. I think locations are as important to the stories as character, and I'm not fond of their sudden destruction for no particular reason. It's true that story-telling potential has certainly not been damaged by the loss of Romulus (it may in fact have grown, and I trust the authors to make good use of the opportunities), but it's a shame to invest in a location, explore it, set multiple stories or parts of there, only for it to then be totally wiped off the map.

As several others have said, there's no reason to treat Romulus as a location that will never be seen again. There's still plenty of room left for stories set in the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th centuries. The tales of the Earth-Romulan War that begin with next year's Beneath the Raptor's Wing will most likely spend a lot of time on 22nd-century Romulus. And there will still be five or six years' worth (in-universe) of stories to tell about Romulus in the Typhon Pact era. John Byrne has been doing a whole series of IDW comics about the Romulans in the timeframe of TOS, and Vanguard could potentially cover that as well. So there's no reason to assume that stories set on Romulus have to come to an end anytime soon. ST literature is free to explore the entire sweep of ST history.

It's not destruction that's the problem, it's simply that, unfortunately and as a result of this unavoidable collision of canon and novels (which the novels must, of course, give way on) the destruction of Romulus has no real meaning to the ongoing story. The devastation on Cardassia had meaning, as it was a natural outcome of the path that world and the galaxy as a whole had taken, sad as the outcome was. The loss of the worlds in the "Destiny" trilogy also had meaning, as again this was a logical outcome of the path the Federation and Borg had been on from their first contact.... However, while the loss of Romulus logically motivates this destruction of Vulcan and so (again, to be fair) has meaning for that new timeline, what meaning does it have in the Prime timeline?

How much "meaning" did Hurricane Katrina have to the history of New Orleans? It wasn't some dramatically significant outgrowth of previous events in the city's life; it was an arbitrary natural disaster. Destruction is frequently meaningless. The meaning lies in how people deal with its consequences, and what it exposes about the strengths and weaknesses of the society forced to cope with it.

Arguably nothing in life has an intrinsic meaning, because meaning is a consequence of perception and thought. Things only mean something to the people who observe and experience them. So the meaning of an event is something that is constructed in its wake, not something that precedes it.

Many times over the years, the screen canon has thrown things at us that we didn't expect. And the books have adapted and found ways to explore the meaning of those events, often in far more depth than the shows or films could.

You make good points as usual. :) I acknowledge that I really should wait to see what the novels "do" with the destruction of Romulus. As you say, the event will take on meaning to the ongoing story in the aftermath, as the characters evaluate or cope with what happened. The "problem", which I'm aware isn't really a problem at all but simply my biases, is just that until an event in a fictional universe has meaning to the wider story it leaves me a little...lost. As you say, not everything can be an outgrowth of prior events; some things are completely arbitrary and random. I'll probably be just fine with the loss of Romulus once the aftermath of that event has been explored :lol:

Until then, everyone will have to put up with my niggling and mourning. Sorry, everyone!:lol:

PS: Oh, and you're quite right about exploring Romulus further in the pre-2387 stories, I hope I haven't been too melodramatic with my "Romulus-GONE!!" worrying.
 
And let's not forget the lingering hypothesis that Klingon did relocate their home planet after the destruction of Praxis. They said the oxygen reserve would be depleted in 50 years, and yet the Klingon capital looked fine in TNG and DS9. So they find a way to replenish that, or they relocated the capital to another planet.

There are hypotheses? Why? I thought the whole point was that there was 50 years left unless the Klingons signed up with the Federation. Which they did.
Problem solved? :klingon: + :confused:
 
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