^^Even Ron Moore adimts the Nexus doesn't make sense, though. Abrams and his cronies should consider bieng as forthright about Red Matter.
The fall... I don't get it...
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Doesn't the fact that they called it "Red Matter" instead of trying to bullshit up some silly Treknobabble pseudoscience name point to the fact that they fully admit it's just a MacGuffin? Where have they tried to depict Red Matter as being plausible within the laws of physics or anything more than just a means to an end to advance the plot?
My only problem with Red Matter is that they sent Spock Prime with enough of it to rearrange the universe.
There is only 2 problems with Red Matter in Star Trek 2009:
1. Why the hell did Spock take so much with it when a tiny drop of it is enough?
2. Why did Nero have to use a drill when a black hole doesn't care if it's dropped into or onto the planet?
Those are not physics problems.
1. Why the hell did Spock take so much with it when a tiny drop of it is enough?
2. Why did Nero have to use a drill when a black hole doesn't care if it's dropped into or onto the planet?
Those are not physics problems.
But the guy I was responding to was talking about scientific implausibilities in ST09 (while ignoring similar ones in all the other films), hence my reply.
The same reason James Bond is being strapped to a table while a laser-beam moves sloooooooowly towards his crotch: Drama and cool visuals.
I suppose the Vulcans thought "fuck, while we're at it, let's destroy all near-supernova stars."
A very good question. I guess it doesn't work so well when imploded farther from an existing gravity well.
The third season TOS episode "Spock's Brain" makes a mockery of science and medicine all in one shot.
(they can remove and restore a brain without messing up a single hair on Mr. Spock's head.)
Zoning ordinances prohibited the storage of red matter anywhere other than on the premises of the Vulcan Science Academy, and the Vulcan scientists weren't mad enough to want to have anything further to do with it. Spock got stuck with the lot. Logically.
True. Trek has never been about the hard sci-fi. One thing that must be remembered though, is that science fiction is at it's core an extrapolation of current scientific understanding towards what COULD become possible technologically and scientifically in the future. Hard sci-fi uses this as the core of their story-telling. Trek is more subtle than that, although much of it is truly extrapolated as opposed to a pure invention.
If it was a show we might of had more detail, I'd like to think that the Red Matter unless your using all of it at once along with a large explosion like warp core breach requires a large amount of energy to ingnite it + sustain it, Nero required something like geothermic energy. I would also have added something like since its a man made black hole it evaporates quickly (real BH can potentially evaporate if memory serves) so centre of planet make sense + has weak forces so something small like a ship can be pulled in but a planet could resisit it by being near. Just how I would of wrote it
However you could just then argue throw your device into the system's sun
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