What would be the more logical design for a engineering hull be?
The Excelsior class isn't as beautiful as people think it is
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What would be the more logical design for a engineering hull be?
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Amaris
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I love it as it is. I mean, I think this looks great:
On a pure looks basis:
Saucer, great, nacelles, great. Pregnant engineering hull... not wrong, but out of keeping with the sleek and long look of the other sections. That hull ought to be matched with a bigger saucer (sphere?) and nacelles that look like a triumph of function over looks.
Saucer, great, nacelles, great. Pregnant engineering hull... not wrong, but out of keeping with the sleek and long look of the other sections. That hull ought to be matched with a bigger saucer (sphere?) and nacelles that look like a triumph of function over looks.
Nardpuncher
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I like the Excelsior in spite of itself.
I think it was designed to look like it was puffing its chest out as it was supposed to be better than the Enterprise as the 'New Thing'.
I think it was designed to look like it was puffing its chest out as it was supposed to be better than the Enterprise as the 'New Thing'.
kitsune
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Somehow, the saucer portion of the Intrepid class always seemed phallic to me.
Nardpuncher
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The Intrepid class looks like it should be a spoon for feeding big space babies!
Easily the ugliest ship to me.
Easily the ugliest ship to me.
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I like the Intrepid class, myself. Strongly dislike the Sovereign class. Too mashed up, and the only reason they had it was because someone thought it would be cool to blow up the D.
To me, the Intrepid class looks like the business end of a shovel. And the Sovereign class is just too fussy, too busy, too over-designed.* It wouldn't look out of place in Japanese anime, but it's just wrong for a Federation starship.
*In other words, it looks GAY!
*In other words, it looks GAY!
I didn't like the Constellation class. It seemed like a lazy version of the Constitution...
Ambassador-class wasn't too bad, though...
Excelsior-class? Hmmm...(It's cool for Sulu, but I'm not a big fan)....
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Excelsior was introduced to purposefully look CLUNKY and less beautiful and graceful than the Enterprise in ST III. The form has grown on me, but really, it's SUPPOSED to register as bloated and overdone. If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon.....
Somehow, the saucer portion of the Intrepid class always seemed phallic to me.
You should see T-Raumschiff. The model of their version of the Intrepid class was designed to look like a giant penis and testicles when viewed from above. And yet it also still looks amazingly like a Star Trek ship from the side, especially like Voyager. When I first saw the model from the side I thought it was a legit Trek ship. Then I saw the top view...
kitsune
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I believe this is incorrect. Do you have a source for this?
A lot of these ships look good from certain angles... There is one angle of the Intrepid that doesn't look so bad. I find the Galaxy looks great from any angle. Excelsior, Ambassador also look great from most angles.
It's all perspective, baby.
There's a paragraph in the "Encounter at Farpoint" novelization about Picard laughing while he first looked over some specs for the Galaxy class the first time and saw the private "in-joke" about her design being rather ladylike.
Ships are always referred to in the feminine, old naval tradition.
Does anyone else think that the Galaxy looks overly feminine? 'Cause that's what I was thinking about the Intrepid. If the Galaxy is rockin' double Ds, the Intrepid has junk in the trunk. The Excelsior has skinny legs and exposed riblines.
Not hatin'. Some people prefer junk in the trunk.
It's all good.
It's all perspective, baby.
There's a paragraph in the "Encounter at Farpoint" novelization about Picard laughing while he first looked over some specs for the Galaxy class the first time and saw the private "in-joke" about her design being rather ladylike.
Ships are always referred to in the feminine, old naval tradition.
Does anyone else think that the Galaxy looks overly feminine? 'Cause that's what I was thinking about the Intrepid. If the Galaxy is rockin' double Ds, the Intrepid has junk in the trunk. The Excelsior has skinny legs and exposed riblines.
Not hatin'. Some people prefer junk in the trunk.
It's all good.
Nardpuncher
Rear Admiral
I'm not sure where I heard it, but I'm quite sure that's what they were going for.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, it looks to be like it's puffing out its chest a bit, what with the way the secondary hull looks.
But in the DVD extras one of the designers said he was trying to design a Federation starship if the Japanese were doing it.
So people are wrong for liking it?
Nardpuncher
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I think we should infer that he said " I think... at the start.
We should probably do that with all posts!
I think that's why Therin of Andor has the sig that he does.
Anyway, on the Excelsior...I also think it's a bit ugly, but I still like it as it seems like a powerful ship plying its way though space...exploring the final frontier. It's hard to explain but even the Intrepid class, which I think is even uglier...I can still, um, 'respect' it for being out there....serving its crew and the Federation.
Ugh, that all sounded so dorky!
We should probably do that with all posts!
I think that's why Therin of Andor has the sig that he does.
Anyway, on the Excelsior...I also think it's a bit ugly, but I still like it as it seems like a powerful ship plying its way though space...exploring the final frontier. It's hard to explain but even the Intrepid class, which I think is even uglier...I can still, um, 'respect' it for being out there....serving its crew and the Federation.
Ugh, that all sounded so dorky!
kitsune
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That's correct, it has an efficient, elegant Japanese design aesthetic to it.
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