The era of (fictional) Bionics (Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman)

Oh, I was thinking of the sound effects when I asked because they weren't used in the original Cyborg movie nor the two follow up movies--so I didn't know if they started using those effects in the show's pilot episode. The original three movies just used sped up footage to show him running fast as well--and it is effective for the most part because he's running at basically highway speeds.
I remember one particular scene in the show that made me chuckle. So, the bad guys see our hero running on some CCTV system. The bad guys are like, "How is that possible?!?" "He can't be human!!!" The problem is that in the same scene, you can see the bad guys arguing with each other at normal speed while at the same time you can see Steve Austin running in slow motion on the screen! :lol: :lol: :lol: Of course they are surprised! No one can run in slow motion!
 
EDIT: There really isn't a reason some street level heroes shouldn't be able to move "moderately" fast. Even being able to move at 60mph should give a distinct advantage in a variety of scenarios.
I asked ChatGPT what would happen if someone could run at 60 mph


If a person could run at 60 mph, several physiological and physical factors would come into play, creating a range of challenges and extraordinary conditions. Here are some considerations:
Friction and Heat
  • Shoe Friction: Running at such high speeds would generate enormous friction between the shoes and the ground. Standard running shoes would likely disintegrate quickly. Specially designed, heat-resistant materials would be necessary to withstand the high temperatures.
  • Heat Generation: The friction would produce a significant amount of heat, potentially causing burns or damage to the feet and legs.
Biomechanics
  • Stride and Leg Movement: The biomechanics of running would be vastly different. At 60 mph, the stride length and frequency would need to be significantly increased. This would place enormous stress on muscles, tendons, and joints.
  • Muscle Power: The muscles would need to generate an immense amount of power to propel the body forward at such speeds. This would likely require muscles far stronger and more efficient than human muscles.
Aerodynamics
  • Air Resistance: Air resistance increases with the square of speed, so running at 60 mph would result in substantial drag. The runner would need to adopt an aerodynamic posture to minimize resistance.
  • Breathing: Breathing would become more challenging due to the high-speed air flow and increased oxygen demand by the muscles.
Structural Integrity
  • Bone and Joint Stress: The forces exerted on the bones and joints would be extreme, likely causing damage unless the bones were significantly strengthened (similar to the bionic enhancements in the show).
  • Impact Force: The impact of each foot strike would be immense, necessitating either a vastly different running technique or enhanced structural support in the legs and feet.
Energy Requirements
  • Caloric Intake: The energy expenditure would be extraordinarily high, requiring a much greater caloric intake to sustain such activity.
  • Metabolic Rate: The metabolic rate would need to be highly efficient to provide the necessary energy quickly.
Environmental Factors
  • Surface Type: Running on standard surfaces like concrete or asphalt could be problematic due to the wear and tear. Specialized running tracks might be needed.
  • Weather Conditions: Wind, rain, and other weather conditions would have a more pronounced effect at higher speeds, potentially posing additional hazards.
Safety Gear
  • Protective Equipment: To prevent injury from falls or collisions, extensive protective gear, such as a helmet, padding, and specialized clothing, would be necessary.
  • Eye Protection: Eye protection would be crucial to shield against debris and the high-speed wind.
In summary, a person running at 60 mph would face significant biomechanical, environmental, and physiological challenges. Such an ability would require extraordinary adaptations, likely involving advanced technology or biological enhancements similar to the fictional bionics in "The Six Million Dollar Man."
 
In summary, a person running at 60 mph would face significant biomechanical, environmental, and physiological challenges. Such an ability would require extraordinary adaptations, likely involving advanced technology or biological enhancements similar to the fictional bionics in "The Six Million Dollar Man."
...or, just be superhuman like The Flash.
 
were the bionic sound effects in the show from the very start?

Oh, no, they weren't fully codified until late season 2 of 6M$M. The "ta-ta-ta-tang" sound that later became standardized for Steve's bionics debuted in "Day of the Robot" as one of the sounds the android impostor made when it was damaged, like a busted spring or something. The first time it was used for Steve's exertions was in "Dr. Wells is Missing," except it was also used in that fight scene for another, non-bionic character swinging a lamppost. It was only used in one other season 1 episode, "The Coward," to represent Steve's strength, but only when he was swinging a pole or launching a flying kick, so it seemed to be used to represent things moving horizontally with great power, like a sort of electronic "swish" sound effect.

In season 2, it was used for both Steve and Mike Farrell's mutated astronaut in "The Pioneers," continuing the "horizontal motion" trend. "The Seven Million Dollar Man" used it the same way for both bionic men. (The whistling sound of a projectile hurled bionically through the air was standardized by this point.) It started to be used more or less regularly for Steve's bionics from "Stranger in Broken Fork" onward, with the bionic-jump sound effect also becoming standardized around the same time. But "Look Alike" was the first time the "ta-ta-tang" was used unambiguously and exclusively for Steve's bionic exertions, using it for everything he did bionically (rather than just certain moves) and not using it for George Foreman's slow-motion acts of strength. It was also used in a pretty standardized way in "The Bionic Woman" for both Steve's and Jamie's bionics. But it wasn't until season 3 (and season 1 of TBW) that they really had a consistent library of bionic sound effects locked in, with the "ta-ta-tang" used for every exertion of bionic limbs as well as standard sounds for the bionic eye, bionic ear (though I think that one took longer to settle in), bionic jumps, impacts, and so forth.



I asked ChatGPT

You lost me there. Whatever it Frankenstein-cobbles together from countless different sources is unlikely to have any coherence or reliability. There are far more effective ways to do research than trusting a mindless machine with no judgment.
 
Are there any recent movies or TV shows where a character is shown running very fast but not super-fast (about 60 mph) in a convincing manner? I can only think of superheroes and the like but they basically move at supersonic speeds, not the more "moderate" speed of the Bionic Man.
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines had the TX convincingly running at bionic speed. It can be done.
 
I'm in the middle of the syndicated version of "Wine, Women and War". The bionic sound effects make an anachronistic cameo in another nonsensical opening sequence cobbled together from at least two later episodes--Steve's wearing different outfits.

Fun fact from the You Can't Make This Shit Up Department--The original TV movie version of "Wine, Women and War" featured non-series opening and closing title sequences that included a theme song by Dusty Springfield:
Not a Simpsons parody!
 
It's odd to me to see people describing the bionic sound as "nuh-nuh-nuh" or something like that. To me, it's more of a "ta-ta-ta-tang" sound, sharp and metallic
The androids had a great, eerie sound to them.

There was a nice parody in the episode “Fumble on the One” where a bionic individual was easily caught by one of the superheroes from “Misfits of Science” in an otherwise forgettable program.
 
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It's odd to me to see people describing the bionic sound as "nuh-nuh-nuh" or something like that. To me, it's more of a "ta-ta-ta-tang" sound, sharp and metallic rather than the softer sound that "nuh" implies. I guess the lower-pitched "impact" sound effect they used could be described that way, perhaps, though to me it's more of a "bu-bu-bu" or "du-du-du" kind of thing.
Well, the "na-na-na-na" was how we did it as kids and for me, it stuck. I could never make the sound accurately myself and I always "did sound effects" in my childhood role play and always tried to get as close as possible orally. With that example, I failed. Did pretty good with Star Trek doors, the transporter and warp sounds.
 
I can't remember, did either of the Bionic shows deal with the concept that it's not enough to simply have bionic limbs, but one must also have the endurance to deal with them?

Meaning, it's not enough to just have super strength and vision and all that, but the body has to be equipped to actually USE that ability, otherwise Steve and Jaime would wear themselves out in like two seconds.
They stated in the pilot episode that because the heart had less of a volume of blood to pump through the body (because of the replaced limbs <--- That gave him better endurance because there was less strain on the heart and remaining organs due to the 3 artificial limbs and eye..

(Yeah, doesn't really make sense to me either, but that was the explanation they gave.)
 
And when Oliver Nelson was scoring the music for the series, I loved it. Even to this day, this is my favorite action sequence and BGM music for the series from one of its (to me) standout episodes: The Seven Million Dollar Man:
I believe Oliver Nelson stopped scoring for the series after the third season.
 
My favorite Nelson cue for 6M$M is probably the one for Steve's fights with Mike Farrell's character in "The Pioneers."

Nelson also did some memorable Columbo scores.
 
And when Oliver Nelson was scoring the music for the series, I loved it. Even to this day, this is my favorite action sequence and BGM music for the series from one of its (to me) standout episodes: The Seven Million Dollar Man:
Yes this is my favorite piece of SMDM music too. It makes this scene work so much better.

I believe Oliver Nelson stopped scoring for the series after the third season.
He died during the production of the third season on October 28, 1975. No doubt he would have continued scoring the series if he could.
 
This?:

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It's amazing how talented composer could make an extended sequence of two guys fighting in slow motion so exciting. Even the over the top grunts of Mike Farrell dubbed in does not ruin the music and when it does to the scene.

This series was bad with the overdubbing. In Dr. Wells is Missing, the shouts of the toughs being thrown around by Steve are awful.
 
Also in that "Pioneers" clip, there's an example of the "ta-ta-tang" sound effect being used for a non-bionic character. It's ambiguous at about 3:22, when both fighters are lifting railroad ties at the same time, but at about 4:20 it's clearly used for Farrell's character's feat of strength.
 
Also in that "Pioneers" clip, there's an example of the "ta-ta-tang" sound effect being used for a non-bionic character. It's ambiguous at about 3:22, when both fighters are lifting railroad ties at the same time, but at about 4:20 it's clearly used for Farrell's character's feat of strength.
His tendons were all wound up too <--- That's what caused the sound.:whistle:;)
 
I asked ChatGPT what would happen if someone could run at 60 mph

It would take 5 minutes to get a high-level overview of each condition if looked up manually. Not to mention where ChatGPT is getting its goodies from, which likely isn't an issue but I'm already into the minutiae.

If a person could run at 60 mph, several physiological and physical factors would come into play, creating a range of challenges and extraordinary conditions. Here are some considerations:
Friction and Heat
  • Shoe Friction: Running at such high speeds would generate enormous friction between the shoes and the ground. Standard running shoes would likely disintegrate quickly. Specially designed, heat-resistant materials would be necessary to withstand the high temperatures.
  • Heat Generation: The friction would produce a significant amount of heat, potentially causing burns or damage to the feet and legs.

These would be true, bionic or otherwise. Replace those shoes often, they don't have the same thickness as tires, LOL! (Still, the show sells its high concept premise to keep enough of your brain at the hatstand. But I'm also a fan of Space 1999, the one with the dumbest idea for a show but look beyond the premise and there's a lot of thrill to be had.)

Biomechanics

  • Stride and Leg Movement: The biomechanics of running would be vastly different. At 60 mph, the stride length and frequency would need to be significantly increased. This would place enormous stress on muscles, tendons, and joints.
  • Muscle Power: The muscles would need to generate an immense amount of power to propel the body forward at such speeds. This would likely require muscles far stronger and more efficient than human muscles.

For humans, yes. For bionic-augmented people, not really - the mechanics would be doing the work and there's no stress on the internal organs as such. (The Cyborg novelization indicated a new endoskeleton to keep the bionic bits in place. Something the audience would likely assume as well for the tv show.)

Aerodynamics

  • Air Resistance: Air resistance increases with the square of speed, so running at 60 mph would result in substantial drag. The runner would need to adopt an aerodynamic posture to minimize resistance.
  • Breathing: Breathing would become more challenging due to the high-speed air flow and increased oxygen demand by the muscles.

Bingo. Bionic or not, these would remain an issue. But we see multi-ton 18-wheelers go 65MPH with ease. The drag coefficient for braking aside, of course... Breathing especially would be an issue, regardless of biological or bionic bits.

Structural Integrity
  • Bone and Joint Stress: The forces exerted on the bones and joints would be extreme, likely causing damage unless the bones were significantly strengthened (similar to the bionic enhancements in the show).
  • Impact Force: The impact of each foot strike would be immense, necessitating either a vastly different running technique or enhanced structural support in the legs and feet.

Why the novelization went into more detail (from what little I recall)... that new endoskeleton would have to be pretty good.

Energy Requirements
  • Caloric Intake: The energy expenditure would be extraordinarily high, requiring a much greater caloric intake to sustain such activity.
  • Metabolic Rate: The metabolic rate would need to be highly efficient to provide the necessary energy quickly.

For humans, yup. For bionics, the machinery is doing the work and the biological body is just there for the ride.

Environmental Factors
  • Surface Type: Running on standard surfaces like concrete or asphalt could be problematic due to the wear and tear. Specialized running tracks might be needed.
  • Weather Conditions: Wind, rain, and other weather conditions would have a more pronounced effect at higher speeds, potentially posing additional hazards.

Repeated use or one-time traversal?

Also, given how heavy the bionics would be, they'd be the weight of 4 or 5 people in the same area of space. Greater density should be almost as much an issue like when Steve found that Oscar was replaced by a robot by throwing a pencil along his walking path and Robo-Oscar crushed it.

Safety Gear

  • Protective Equipment: To prevent injury from falls or collisions, extensive protective gear, such as a helmet, padding, and specialized clothing, would be necessary.
  • Eye Protection: Eye protection would be crucial to shield against debris and the high-speed wind.
In summary, a person running at 60 mph would face significant biomechanical, environmental, and physiological challenges. Such an ability would require extraordinary adaptations, likely involving advanced technology or biological enhancements similar to the fictional bionics in "The Six Million Dollar Man."

For Steve, the bionic eye takes care of that, but - yeah - running 60MPH would be an issue for debris and to say nothing of pebbles like when you're driving down the freeway and the vehicle that turns the corner's acceleration spews up a ton of that and dust and whaps against the windscreen, even cracking it... oh dear...


Yes this is my favorite piece of SMDM music too. It makes this scene work so much better.


He died during the production of the third season on October 28, 1975. No doubt he would have continued scoring the series if he could.

Way too young for sure. His scores for the show were exceptionally crafted. Great stuff! If I didn't like the show already, I'd tune in for the incidental music alone. Gotta look up if there's a soundtrack...
 
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