The episode where the Enterprise gets taken over by Ferengi
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IIRC the only reason the Ferengi showed up in Klingon ships is that it would have been too costly to film new model work showing them taking over the Enterprise in their Mauraders. So they used stock-footage instead.
It's a fun episode if you ignore the holes.
It's a fun episode if you ignore the holes.
I have noticed the reality of production constraints is often lost on fans. Many would prefer an accurate unsuccessful show, to a successful episode. Failing to realise the results, for example cancellation. Of course most fans do not work in the business. Hard to blame them.
Which just goes to show you hard far the Ferengi had fallen from the fearsome enemies they were supposed to be in early Season 1.
Indeed. Nothing too much wrong with the actor by my problem is his voice is just irritating and too high-pitched. Jesus, get your balls to drop kid.
I liked Rascals. Sure it was totally frivolous and highly illogical but... it was so goddamn cute. 
It's the closest TNG ever came to the fun and whimsy of The Trouble with Tribbles, though it certainly was nowhere close to being that good.
It's the closest TNG ever came to the fun and whimsy of The Trouble with Tribbles, though it certainly was nowhere close to being that good.
Although they did cast a 14/15 year-old to play a 12 year-old.
I dunno, I kind of imagined a very young Picard being just like that, so I thought he nailed it.
It's also one of the few TNG episodes where I remembered that Picard was of French descent...
I liked Rascals. Sure it was totally frivolous and highly illogical but... it was so goddamn cute.
Completely agree with both of these points. I don't understand all of the hate. Its nice to have an episode once in a while that is just fun. And forgive me if I thought that having the same kid that played Rene come back and play young Jean Luc was a neat idea. I thought he did a good job.
It also makes sense from a story standpoint, the only way the Ferengi could defeat the Enterprise is with a surprise attack and the Klingons have superior military tech compared to the Ferengi. Klingon ships with cloaking devices are more dangerous then Ferengi ships.
However its still unbelievable that the Ferengi could conquer the Enterprise with outdated Klingon ships.
I give comedy episodes more slack so the lameness didn't really bother me if the episode had been more serious.
I'm not sure it was a "nudge-wink" approach to casting.
Star Trek just casts people that they think will do well in the role, and if they succeeded before, then they'll use them again.
Paris wasn't a nudge-wink to Lacarno, for example, they just thought the actor was perfect. Same with Cochrane not being a nudge-wink to the leader of the colony in "The Hunted".
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Actually, it is common knowledge that in both television and movies people who do the casting prefer someone they've used before.
Plus it's a nice compromise between the early Fearsome Warrior and the later Ruthless Businessman images of the Ferengi. What would come more naturally to the fighting breed of the Ferengi than the purchasing of foreign weapons and ships - and perhaps even mercenary crews to operate them?
And the Ferengi are the perfect opponent for the plotline, not just because they are ridiculous as adversaries. They are also known for minding the bottom line - so of course they would cut their losses and withdraw if they encountered enough resistance to make their venture unprofitable. And that point would come much sooner than with opponents who only withdrew on tactical grounds.
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Rascals is a classic in the sens of JLP as a kid acting like a egoistical drip. The best are Roe an Giennen.
Also how Alexandra was able to fool the guard as fun.
Wait a second if Picard was turned back into a boy what about his heart. Would it have been there?
That is a good point broght up that if it was still artificial then the kids would have died or was shrunken down to fit his chest?
The Number1 dad line was classic.
That episode is my daugthers favorits and they ask me to play when we are watching the DVDs. They are both 8 and 4 while my son and I think it's okay and he is 11.
Also how Alexandra was able to fool the guard as fun.
Wait a second if Picard was turned back into a boy what about his heart. Would it have been there?
That is a good point broght up that if it was still artificial then the kids would have died or was shrunken down to fit his chest?
The Number1 dad line was classic.
That episode is my daugthers favorits and they ask me to play when we are watching the DVDs. They are both 8 and 4 while my son and I think it's okay and he is 11.
Anyway, Picard's heart isn't an issue. It wouldn't have regrown due to the de-aging process (since there's nothing there to re-grow) and the size difference between a teenage boy's heart and an adult heart isn't likely to be big enough to cause any real problems.
But at least Code of Honor gives us the classic line, "Then you shall have no treaty, no vaccine, and no Lieutenant Yar!"
There was no hair to re-grow, either - yet that did grow back.
The de-aging thing cannot be considered purely biological; we have to throw in some pixie dust as well. And if we want to assume it's consistent pixie dust, then the heart might well have grown back. The machine replacement might have disappeared into pixieland for the duration, just like the fictional "adulthood bits" of the victims did, when the transporter beam was "filtered" by the magic field - and would have returned along with these bits when the transporter signal was re-run without the "filter".
Timo Saloniemi
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