I liked it, but I also saw it before I saw the original.
Spoilers The Ending of Carpenter's The Thing
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I liked it, but I also saw it before I saw the original.
I also liked the 2011 movie
Personally I found the 2011 movie to be almost entirely forgettable. By which I mean I literally can't remember anything about it, other than how the ending somewhat awkwardly lined up with the beginning of Carpenter's movie (score and all.) It wasn't a bad movie per see, just bland and unimaginative one.
I would recommend it. Yes, it's not as good as Carpenter's but still a good movie, and the attention to detail such as the ice-block location in the Norwegian Outpost and a few iconic portions revealed during Copper and Macready's exploration of the base in are extremely well done.
More than once I've arranged for a double-feature, following a watching of this with Carpenter's movie.
The 2011 movie is a movie with no purpose of its own. It's mostly well made, but it rarely does anything with the material besides aping the JC version or setting pieces in place for it. The entire climax was reshot (to its detriment in my opinion) and it had CGI puked all over it in post instead of the planned and shot 50/50 mix of practical and digital. (Again, to its detriment.)
Should still watch it and decide for yourself of course.
Should still watch it and decide for yourself of course.
I'll bite on the earring thing.
"The Thing" reacted poorly to any kind of pain or wounding so I doubt it'd even be able to pierce its own ear lobe in order to put on an earring/stud.
"The Thing" reacted poorly to any kind of pain or wounding so I doubt it'd even be able to pierce its own ear lobe in order to put on an earring/stud.
I found the prequel entirely forgettable too. Not a bad movie, but nothing much either. Certainly there's nothing there which would retcon the 80's movie for me
Clearly we should know MacReady is human. We pretty much see him the entire time since he passes the test. So the only option is for Childs to be it, since he was unaccounted for throughout a length of time afterward. The earring theory is really unconvincing to me (If it's a duplication, then certainly it could likely duplicate an earring hole, for which to place Child's earring) & the notion that they are both human is rather disappointing, and anti-climatic, especially since Ennio's heartbeat theme resurfaces ominously. The movie is much more powerful if it's still there in the end, & that soundtrack theme gives credence to that very notion. That final chuckle from Russell comes off as a "F##K It" kind of moment, when he knows he's been beaten (or at least stalemated) & admittedly knows there's nothing more he can do about it
Clearly we should know MacReady is human. We pretty much see him the entire time since he passes the test. So the only option is for Childs to be it, since he was unaccounted for throughout a length of time afterward. The earring theory is really unconvincing to me (If it's a duplication, then certainly it could likely duplicate an earring hole, for which to place Child's earring) & the notion that they are both human is rather disappointing, and anti-climatic, especially since Ennio's heartbeat theme resurfaces ominously. The movie is much more powerful if it's still there in the end, & that soundtrack theme gives credence to that very notion. That final chuckle from Russell comes off as a "F##K It" kind of moment, when he knows he's been beaten (or at least stalemated) & admittedly knows there's nothing more he can do about it
What pain did it react poorly to?
...And a creature that can alter its body at will would balk at pushing a thin piece of metal through an earlobe? Would that hurt more than slicing open your thumb or taking a hit from the defib?
Now that I think about it, why would it need to pierce its ear anyway? The Thing copies the body as it is now (hair-style, fingernail length), so a Carter copy could/should have the earlobe hole in the first place.
That's exactly what I was saying about Childs
I assume they mean how it reacts to the hot needle test
I'll admit to being confused then...I thought the earring talk was about Carter in the prequel. Childs is wearing his earring at the end of the film.
So, uh, why can't it just imitate having a hole in its ear? How is that any different from having a nostril?
If poking a "Thing" causes a pain response, how would they have gotten a blood sample to test in the first place? It was my impression that the organism was reacting to heat specifically.
Also, we don't know for certain that either character hasn't been infected with the organism without being aware of it. It may be that the Thing can absorb only part of the body and simply behave like functioning human tissue until it's ready to absorb the entire host. For example, it could absorb a single hair follicle and hitch a ride to civilization without the host knowing. The only way to be safe is to make sure no one survives.
Childs: "How will we make it?"
Macready: "Maybe we shouldn't."
Also, we don't know for certain that either character hasn't been infected with the organism without being aware of it. It may be that the Thing can absorb only part of the body and simply behave like functioning human tissue until it's ready to absorb the entire host. For example, it could absorb a single hair follicle and hitch a ride to civilization without the host knowing. The only way to be safe is to make sure no one survives.
Childs: "How will we make it?"
Macready: "Maybe we shouldn't."
I've always been somewhat tickled by the notion that at the end of Carpenter's 'The Thing', both Childs & MacReady were "things" but neither knew what the other one was and was still determined to keep the act up.
It certainly fits with an organism so fundamentally selfish--even at the cellular level--it's blood will jump up and crawl away from the body rather than suffer damage.
But seriously though, the whole point of that ending is that they don't know for sure. Not the characters, not the film makers and certainly not the audience. Which is great IMO. The whole movie is about paranoia so it'd we weird if there ever was anything definitive that could prove it one way or the other.
It certainly fits with an organism so fundamentally selfish--even at the cellular level--it's blood will jump up and crawl away from the body rather than suffer damage.
But seriously though, the whole point of that ending is that they don't know for sure. Not the characters, not the film makers and certainly not the audience. Which is great IMO. The whole movie is about paranoia so it'd we weird if there ever was anything definitive that could prove it one way or the other.
I liked the THE THING(2011) prequel because it ends where the 1982 film begins. It exists to give a backstory to the 1982 film regarding the Norwegian camp that they visited in the '82 film. Even though it doesn't need to be done, they did it and I am extremely glad.
I wish there would be a Thing 3, set in 1982 too, with Kate[Thing (2011)] finding both Childs & MacReady alive.
[CG de-age the actors like Jeff Bridges in the Tron sequel.] All three of them head to the Russian camp that was mentioned...
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Dark Horse did an excellent sequel comic.
But wouldn't the Thing have the advantage? Surely a Thing could assimilate a Predator faster than said Predator would be able to fight back. All the Thing has to do is gain access to the Predator for long enough to infect it.
Like the Borg, for example. If a Borg drone injects a target with nanoprobes, it's all over. Even if the victim manages to destroy the drone which infected them, they're doomed.
Acid blood.
^ Remember what I just said. A Thing just has to get close enough to infect a Predator, and that only takes a few seconds.
Acid blood doesn't matter - even if the Predator manages to fight back and kill the Thing that infected it, it's still doomed, because Thing infection is irreversible.
Acid blood doesn't matter - even if the Predator manages to fight back and kill the Thing that infected it, it's still doomed, because Thing infection is irreversible.
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