The Emperor's New Cloak

[Photon]

I've skipped over this episode since I starting re-watching DS9 bc of the horrible reviews. Today, I watched it. It wasn't NEAR as bad as I thought but still it was a pretty useless episode. Lotsa hotties kissing each other, Worf having a melt down, Defiant blasting a Vor'cha was OK. Otherwise, it was banal and bordering on stupid. I'll be skipping back over this from now on.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Well, it was the worst Mirror Universe episode and the second worst Ferengi episode (after Profit And Lace).

 

[JirinPanthosa]

No part of the episode is so horrible to make it just unwatchable. It's just incredibly cheesy, poorly plotted out and not well justified without any real highs. And not funny enough for the 'So over the top stupid it's good' thing In A Mirror Darkly pulled off.

 

[Paul755]

This is the best example of a bad filler episode. I’m also convinced it only exists because they wanted to introduce Mirror Ezri.

 

[Oddish]

The only decent people in the Mirrorverse seem to be the Ferengi, and one of them dies every episode.

The K/C alliance is a brutal totalitarian force that relies on slave labor. The other side, if they triumph, are the Terran Empire waiting to happen. Wish they could both lose...

 

[Swedish Borg]

This is the best example of a bad filler episode. I’m also convinced it only exists because they wanted to introduce Mirror Ezri.

For what? To show their prejudice!! Like lesbians are evil!! This is such a disgrace!

 

[Oddish]

For what? To show their prejudice!! Like lesbians are evil!! This is such a disgrace!

Remember, this episode was made back in a time when you could go to jail in 13 states just for having a same-sex lover.

 

[kkt]

Remember, this episode was made back in a time when you could go to jail in 13 states just for having a same-sex lover.

But Star Trek should have been above that.

 

[Oddish]

It wasn't perfect. Look at the whole "women can't be captains" thing in TOS.

 

[kkt]

It wasn't perfect. Look at the whole "women can't be captains" thing in TOS.

Well, not in Starfleet. Romulans, on the other hand... /s

 

[Oddish]

And need I mention "Code of Honor"?

 

[Swedish Borg]

Well, not in Starfleet. Romulans, on the other hand... /s

That's because Romulans are "evil"...

 

[Swedish Borg]

And need I mention "Code of Honor"?

The less said about it the better...

 

[Oddish]

If Star Trek was graded on its progressiveness, it would not score straight A's. But it would probably scrape a three-point, most of the time.

 

[Coops]

I think Treks progressiveness looking back is generally pretty poor but compared to other shows in the same eras I'd argue it was usually at least trying to push some boundaries a little. During TOS the women weren't all in the kitchen or wives and mothers, even if they often still needed rescuing or were on the receiving end of a big ole Kirk smooch. Equally, during the Berman era the issues around sexuality were often portrayed pretty shabbily I guess because so many of the producers were straight middle aged men but at least they had a go.

 

[Lynx]

The only thing in DS9 that I don't like is that there were too many Mirror Universe episodes. One or two would have been enough. Those where Sisko was some sort of 20th century writer were also weird.

It's like the writers suffered from some lack of inspiration when they came up with those episodes, sort of:
"I've lost my inspiration! What do I do?. Now I know, I write a Mirror Universe episode where our heroes can act really weird or a Sisko in the 20th century episode when they can act and be weird as well. Then i get my inspiration back for bigger things to come!"

Maybe that's the secret why most of DS9 had such great and well-written stories! They used certain episodes to get the inspiration back and then came up with so much better things!

 

[fireproof78]

If Star Trek was graded on its progressiveness, it would not score straight A's. But it would probably scrape a three-point, most of the time.

Maybe, if it is lucky. Star Trek's progressiveness has more hype than an MMA fight but it really is mediocre at best.

I like the Mirror Universe just fine but DS9 didn't really know what to do with it. Regent Worf was probably the highlight.

 

[Oddish]

I like the Mirror Universe just fine but DS9 didn't really know what to do with it. Regent Worf was probably the highlight.

Kinky Kira and Evil Odo for me. Wish they'd kept the latter and killed off Scruffy Bashir instead.

It was also nice to see Tuvok in a different setting.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Kinky Kira and Evil Odo for me. Wish they'd kept the latter and killed off Scruffy Bashir instead.

It was also nice to see Tuvok in a different setting.

Yeah, Mirror Bashir didn't get his IQ augmented... OBVIOUSLY!!!

 

[Oddish]

If he'd actually been dumb, that would have been fine. He'd have at least been interesting then.