That may not look good at all, but that's what I was thinking.
If anyone can make it look good, I think you can. I look forward to seeing more.
The Doomsday Machine...
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If anyone can make it look good, I think you can. I look forward to seeing more.
So Norman Spinard's Doomsday Machine was being talked about again on starTrek.com and they mentioned the original concept for the Planet Killer which he actually painted. When they were remastering the episode they also offered to remaster the ship as he originally planned. He agreed but they didn't do it. http://www.startrek.com/article/doomsday-more-with-norman-spinrad-part-1
Anyone know if the original design is floating around?
Anyone know if the original design is floating around?
Maybe put some broken weapon pods, stuff that got busted and wrecked over the years.
Thanks, guys.
Been messing with this today...
I think it's coming along.
What do ya'll think?
I agree with some of the torch comments. But I have some ideas to compliment your take here- because I like the approach you're taking.
1. Add some bits that extend away from the body at odd points along it's length, to give that pointed bumpy look (from afar) like the original had.
2. Add some strategically placed pearlescence panels like the Enterprise refit, to give it an organic quality.
3. Maybe some organic like conduits exposed from time and damage.
4. Add some internal power lighting along it's length, to empahsize that pearlescent panelling.
5. Scale it up a little- it is a planet killer afterall.
6. Add some obvious humanoid control areas- but old, word, and destroyed- and only seen in extreme close shots.
7. and add some spikey very fine, antenaes at the end. From afar, it should look almost hair like- but obviously mechanical up close.
So I think that might make it organic looking from afar, and more mechanical up close- while even closer making it a mix of both. Almost borg like in feeling, but not blatant.
Hold on--- it's an OLD BORG SCOUT DRONE GONE HAYWIRE!!! It was designed to collect samples for future harvest, and to refuel by consuming specific forms of interseller matter!!!
I think you should...
...do what YOU think (feel, inspired, whatever) like modeling.
You must be a "madman" (or a saint) for putting up with the likes of us "armchair modelers" telling you to do this or that, many times our opinions being the polar opposite of a another member.
I know I don't have the patience. I'd have pulled a "Cartman" long ago and told the people here, "Screw, you, guys! I'm goin' home!"
(And I'm sure most will fail to notice the winking emoticon and take my observations far too seriously.)
Sincerely,
Bill
...do what YOU think (feel, inspired, whatever) like modeling.
You must be a "madman" (or a saint) for putting up with the likes of us "armchair modelers" telling you to do this or that, many times our opinions being the polar opposite of a another member.
I know I don't have the patience. I'd have pulled a "Cartman" long ago and told the people here, "Screw, you, guys! I'm goin' home!"
(And I'm sure most will fail to notice the winking emoticon and take my observations far too seriously.)
Sincerely,
Bill
What I'd do for the insides, is this:
In the original trailers for the 1986 Transformers film, Unicron, a machine planet that ate other planets, had a lot of organic looking stuff inside him, which was partially seen in the actual film, but with more machine parts. Transformers Armada went back to the organic ideas for his interiors for that series. Like seen here in trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3j7yYJbKYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvoAxeykxwc Would be cool to have a sequence like that, noming away at some planet....and if you want really creepy or brutal, make the planet inhabited, or showing it devouring the planet Decker's crew were stranded on.
I think the Doomsday Machine should have actual, organic tissue inside its metal shell, veins, organs, nerves, etc. A scene of it eating a world, and then seeing the debris traveling from the mouth to its digestive system would be neat, also adding to the creepy and alien factor.
If I can get my comics going, maybe I'll have my crew encounter a second Doomsday Machine, much larger than the original, and even having scenes happening inside the monster.
In the original trailers for the 1986 Transformers film, Unicron, a machine planet that ate other planets, had a lot of organic looking stuff inside him, which was partially seen in the actual film, but with more machine parts. Transformers Armada went back to the organic ideas for his interiors for that series. Like seen here in trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3j7yYJbKYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvoAxeykxwc Would be cool to have a sequence like that, noming away at some planet....and if you want really creepy or brutal, make the planet inhabited, or showing it devouring the planet Decker's crew were stranded on.
I think the Doomsday Machine should have actual, organic tissue inside its metal shell, veins, organs, nerves, etc. A scene of it eating a world, and then seeing the debris traveling from the mouth to its digestive system would be neat, also adding to the creepy and alien factor.
If I can get my comics going, maybe I'll have my crew encounter a second Doomsday Machine, much larger than the original, and even having scenes happening inside the monster.
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Actually, one of his best traits is his ability to take constructive criticism without getting upset or defensive.I think you should...
...do what YOU think (feel, inspired, whatever) like modeling.
You must be a "madman" (or a saint) for putting up with the likes of us "armchair modelers" telling you to do this or that, many times our opinions being the polar opposite of a another member.
I know I don't have the patience. I'd have pulled a "Cartman" long ago and told the people here, "Screw, you, guys! I'm goin' home!"
(And I'm sure most will fail to notice the winking emoticon and take my observations far too seriously.)
Sincerely,
Bill
Very nice work great reimagining of a well loved TOS
Episode.
Episode.
Wow guys, I hadn't thought about this thing in a while.
I liked the article about the original intent of the doomsday machine... and I really liked the idea of the tentacles and stuff. So, I was thinking of combining this thing with the tentacled / spiky look of the Narada, from STXI.
Got to finish my cartoons first, though.
I liked the article about the original intent of the doomsday machine... and I really liked the idea of the tentacles and stuff. So, I was thinking of combining this thing with the tentacled / spiky look of the Narada, from STXI.
Got to finish my cartoons first, though.
I was always attached to the organic look of the original TOS "Planet Killer". I like how the fourth movie brought back that look for the whalesong "probe".
I agree that the Narada looked a little like the "Planet Killer".
If I had 3D skills, and the hardware and software to use them, I would take the concept in a new direction. I would discard the horn shape altogether. Instead, I would make the machine shaped like a giant hand or catcher's mit, most of the way closed. Floating in the palm would be the fiery planet-devouring mechanism. The tentacles would shroud most of the opening, allowing only limited entry from the "front". I'm not sure how big I would make it, but I would think at least 100 to 500 km across.
So I guess the final effect would be part-Narada, part-Death Star.
I agree that the Narada looked a little like the "Planet Killer".
If I had 3D skills, and the hardware and software to use them, I would take the concept in a new direction. I would discard the horn shape altogether. Instead, I would make the machine shaped like a giant hand or catcher's mit, most of the way closed. Floating in the palm would be the fiery planet-devouring mechanism. The tentacles would shroud most of the opening, allowing only limited entry from the "front". I'm not sure how big I would make it, but I would think at least 100 to 500 km across.
So I guess the final effect would be part-Narada, part-Death Star.
Interesting. The Doomsday Machine and Narada do look similar in size, too. Just be sure that if you add tentacles, it doesn't end up looking like a giant space squid!Wow guys, I hadn't thought about this thing in a while.
I liked the article about the original intent of the doomsday machine... and I really liked the idea of the tentacles and stuff. So, I was thinking of combining this thing with the tentacled / spiky look of the Narada, from STXI.
Got to finish my cartoons first, though.
That might prove interesting for a thread onto itself, a "round robin" of DDM personal interpretations, no holds barred, everything from purely mechanistic "ray guns" the size of starbases to things that look like something H.R. Giger crapped in his toilet. (Er, sorry for that graphic analogy.)
Sincerely,
Bill
Sincerely,
Bill
There's some Trek 3 music in there!
I personally loved how the Doomsday Machine was depicted in the Phase 2/New Voyages episode "In Harm's Way". In this case, the Doomsday Machine becomes more like a giant space tapeworm, complete with flexible segments. There is even this one seen in which it reacts to an attack by turning it's "mouth" in the direction of the attacker, making it seem more alive and alert, and less like just a moving hulk.
I find it impossible to really change the Doomsday Machine much in a way that it could still make it's way into canon in the AU, at least not the same one that destroyed the Niantic resulted in the loss of the Constellation, since it was probably way on it's way before Nero changed any events. I think that the best way to avoid conflicting canon would be to conceptualize what it looked like when it was new, before it's surface looked as though it were pummeled.
Actually, it has been speculated, and even presented in a novel, that the Doomsday Machine was built to fight the Borg
I find it impossible to really change the Doomsday Machine much in a way that it could still make it's way into canon in the AU, at least not the same one that destroyed the Niantic resulted in the loss of the Constellation, since it was probably way on it's way before Nero changed any events. I think that the best way to avoid conflicting canon would be to conceptualize what it looked like when it was new, before it's surface looked as though it were pummeled.
Actually, it has been speculated, and even presented in a novel, that the Doomsday Machine was built to fight the Borg
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