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The Doomday machine..the damage control party

Rulius

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Am watching a members (can't remember who exactly sorry) remake of this episode... and noticed that Scotty is the only red shirt among his repair crew, the others being two gold shirts and one blue... why weren't they all red engineering types? Thoughts?
 
Oh btw teh remake is very good.. I like the Constellation better than the tosr version..
ah Scottgammans.com ... good work.
 
Just because someone isn't currently wearing Engineering red doesn't mean (s)he doesn't have experience in vessel maintenance/construction/repair. Scotty may have been shrewd in picking some of the best people who are not on his staff for the Constellation mission, leaving his best people to run things aboard the Enterprise in his absence.
 
I always liked that the damage control party in that ep wore different color shirts. I'd imagine that damage control may be some kind of interdisciplinary field on board a starship, and command-track officers probably have to do a stint in that rotation as part of their training. -- RR
 
What is a "damage control party"? A handful of men can't be expected to put back together a starship so completely Humpty-Dumptied as the Constellation clearly was. The task of the team would probably be chiefly to assess damage and to determine what could later be repaired. In that sense, it would be reasonable to send in people who knew the different parts and functionalities of the ship and could tell what was broken - after which would follow the people who would fix those things.

Generally, the writers had to do their damnedest to avoid showing the dozens or hundreds of people that might realistically be expected to partake in starship operations or the various adventures. Here, they nicely cut off communications and connections between the damaged starship and the Enterprise before a realistically sized (read: expensive) repair team with the large (read: expensive) amount of realistic-looking (read: expensive) equipment became involved...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Word from some navy bloke in different thread is that damage control supervisors stay on duty (and might be ops officers) but other members are off duty crew members who are on a rota to be called back to duty by the General Quarters clarion. Damage Control teams just patch damage so that the engineers can fix them properly later so some teams might have just one engineer to make a decision on whether a full repair team is needed ugently.
 
Am watching a members (can't remember who exactly sorry) remake of this episode... and noticed that Scotty is the only red shirt among his repair crew, the others being two gold shirts and one blue... why weren't they all red engineering types? Thoughts?

What do you mean a remake of this episode...? Huh and a Wha???
 
Am watching a members (can't remember who exactly sorry) remake of this episode... and noticed that Scotty is the only red shirt among his repair crew, the others being two gold shirts and one blue... why weren't they all red engineering types? Thoughts?

The shirts available for that day's shooting didn't fit the actors and extras cast.

Joe, 46 regular
 
The shirts available for that day's shooting didn't fit the actors and extras cast.

Joe, 46 regular[/QUOTE]


Oh wow now i'm in the big time.. I got the Shat to post on one of my threads,..:lol:
 
I always took the term "damage control party" to be a catch-all for personnel assigned to troubleshoot. They may or may not actually be there to repair something. They may be there to take an inventory of whatever is damaged, which is naturally a major part of addressing and damage situation. These people may cal in the repair crews and tell them what to work on.

In the case of Kirk's boarding party to the Constellation, Spock had difficulty detecting any signs of life, so Kirk assumed the ship was abandoned. He took a crew over to find out what happened, and to see if the ship could be salvaged. That makes sense for a damage control team.
 
I wanted to compliment you on your Doomsday Machine design. It looks quite menacing in the still shot, and I wouldn't mind seeing a DM that looks like that in a future Trek film. You've kicked the ass of the Toostie-Roll probe for sure!
 
Generally, the writers had to do their damnedest to avoid showing the dozens or hundreds of people that might realistically be expected to partake in starship operations or the various adventures. Here, they nicely cut off communications and connections between the damaged starship and the Enterprise before a realistically sized (read: expensive) repair team with the large (read: expensive) amount of realistic-looking (read: expensive) equipment became involved...
This reminded me, I wish the DS9 team had thought of a better use for dozens of extras in Trials and Tribble-ations than to have them overcrowding the corridors of the Enterprise. I don't recall them ever being quite so packed in TOS. This kinda messed with the vibe for me. Too many people milling about to no apparent purpose.

(Heh -- I wonder how many of them were guild and how many of them were just folks who wanted to dress up and walk thru those sets.)

I remember thinking, shouldn't all these people be at their stations or chilling somewhere? Then it's a Red Alert, and I'm thinking they should either be Running there or staying outta the way in their quarters.

Back in the days, I recall Kirk on more than one occasion telling the crew to keep the corridors clear during an emergency situation.

I can remember Bele and Lokai running thru Miles of empty corridor. I remember Kirk having a fight with a knife-wielding assassin without a single interruption from passerby. It's a big ship, man! :lol:
 
I remember thinking, shouldn't all these people be at their stations or chilling somewhere?

To be sure, in the first season Kirk always seemed to fight his way through a crowd with a machete - but that was during non-alert situations. When there was an alert or an announcement, at least three extras per a stretch of corridor were seen freezing on their steps and listening raptly to Kirk's every utterance. And at least three people were bouncing from the walls when enemy fire rattled the ship. The DS9 crowd does seem to reflect this pretty well.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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