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The Domestic Box Office run is ending, International is kicking in.

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A Black Hole remake was in the works with the Tron/Oblivion guy directing and written by the Prometheus guy. Think there was increased talk of it just after Interstellar but now seems to be dead? was looking forward to it
Unfortunately, Black Hole was a Star Wars knockoff, no need for Disney to screw around with it now that it can make billions with actual Star Wars.
 
Exodus: Gods and Kings" too was one of those unnecessary remakes of a film with Heston in the leading role. Everything in this movie was done better in "The Ten Commandment" from the 50s.
They may have the technology now, but they lack the talent.
Also Burton Apes and I Am Legend.. how soon before a Solyent Green remake?
 
All three of those movies are adaptations of preexisting properties (and the first two listed had already been remade/sequalized to death before.) Yet those versions are the point where things started getting 'unnecessary?'

I'm not defending their quality or anything, but the placement of the 'necessity' line seems a wee-bit arbitrary.
 
The 1959 Ben-Hur wasn't a remake of a 1925 film?

That remake added color and sound and a widescreen picture to the movie. This new movie adds a more realistic style of acting and presentation.
But perhaps time and effort could have been put into something new and original, or material that hasn't been adapted successfully before.
 
Unfortunately, Black Hole was a Star Wars knockoff, no need for Disney to screw around with it now that it can make billions with actual Star Wars.

Damn, I would love to see a Black Hole remake, even though I really like the original. Really used to creep me out when I was a kid.
 
That remake added color and sound and a widescreen picture to the movie. This new movie adds a more realistic style of acting and presentation.
But perhaps time and effort could have been put into something new and original, or material that hasn't been adapted successfully before.
It added 3d too! :biggrin:
 
There's a lot of trouble at Paramount right now and the failure of Star Trek Beyond is adding to the troubles of some people in higher places over there.

I wouldn't be surprised if the troubles at Paramount will last for a long time to come and no new Star Trek movie will be greenlit until then with perhaps a whole new production team...

Interesting times ahead!
 
Damn, I would love to see a Black Hole remake, even though I really like the original. Really used to creep me out when I was a kid.
Yeah, I would have liked that too. Tron 3 was likely a casualty of simply being able to make more profitable SW/Marvel movies as well.
 
I read the article at TrekMovie. Interesting read. I noted the author did not address in the article the financial woes of Paramount. I do not share the author's optimism about the film franchise. This franchise is showing signs that it can not compete in an increasingly crowded and competitive market. It may be time to reclassify Star Trek from a tentpole film to something else and slot it in a time frame where it can succeed.
 
It would be nice if some other studio got a shot at making a Trek film. Paramount can't seem to find its way out of a paper bag these days.
 
It would be nice if some other studio got a shot at making a Trek film. Paramount can't seem to find its way out of a paper bag these days.

Why do you say that? ;) Just because 13 Hours, Zoolander 2, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Everybody Wants Some, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, Star Trek Beyond, Florence Foster Jenkins and Ben Hur underperformed or bombed? And that's just in 2016! I'm sure with xXx 3 and Baywatch coming in 2017 Paramount will recover! :D
 
I read the article at TrekMovie. Interesting read. I noted the author did not address in the article the financial woes of Paramount. I do not share the author's optimism about the film franchise. This franchise is showing signs that it can not compete in an increasingly crowded and competitive market. It may be time to reclassify Star Trek from a tentpole film to something else and slot it in a time frame where it can succeed.

I disagree that the franchise is in significant trouble. Beyond's box office is largely a disappointment because it is a casualty of over budgeting. If they had made the move even at $150 million we'd be in more comfortable territory. If you look at Star Trek box office history taking into account inflation, Beyond is performing on par with the Trek movies of the 90s. So there's clearly a significant fan base audience still there.

The issue is like you said Paramount needs to come to terms with the fact that Star Trek just isn't the tentpole big blockbuster franchise they want it to be. The 09 reboot did bring a brief almost mainstream crossover which really was never sustainable and now that Star Wars is back, most general audiences will chose Wars as the sci-fi movie epic of choice.

Beyond hasn't performed well enough to justify another big budget blockbuster but it hasn't done poorly enough for Paramount to through in the towel on Trek or even the Kelvin timeline movies yet. I think they'll approach the next movie with caution - similarly to what the did between Star Trek V and VI - a lower budget bring back JJ Abrams and get marketing the movie as early as possible.

Why do you say that? ;) Just because 13 Hours, Zoolander 2, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Everybody Wants Some, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, Star Trek Beyond, Florence Foster Jenkins and Ben Hur underperformed or bombed? And that's just in 2016! I'm sure with xXx 3 and Baywatch coming in 2017 Paramount will recover! :D

According to articles Paramount is already bracing for a bad 2017. Sad though because movies like Whiskey Tango Foxtrot and Florence Foster Jenkins were actually pretty good.
 
If you look at Star Trek box office history taking into account inflation, Beyond is performing on par with the Trek movies of the 90s. So there's clearly a significant fan base audience still there.

I'm sorry but I don't think so. The 4 TNG movies cost almost $198 million altogether and brought back $443 million worldwide. That's 2.237 times their budget. For Beyond to be on par with them (with a $185 million budget) it needs a worldwide box office of $414 million. Not gonna happen. And that's not taking into account the supposedly $120 million of marketing.

The issue is like you said Paramount needs to come to terms with the fact that Star Trek just isn't the tentpole big blockbuster franchise they want it to be. The 09 reboot did bring a brief almost mainstream crossover which really was never sustainable and now that Star Wars is back, most general audiences will chose Wars as the sci-fi movie epic of choice.

That's what I was afraid. Why watch JJ's Star (Wars Light) Trek when the real Star Wars is back.

Beyond hasn't performed well enough to justify another big budget blockbuster but it hasn't done poorly enough for Paramount to through in the towel on Trek or even the Kelvin timeline movies yet. I think they'll approach the next movie with caution - similarly to what the did between Star Trek V and VI - a lower budget bring back JJ Abrams and get marketing the movie as early as possible.

That's what I was afraid. Abrams (and Orci and Kurtzman) back and be told to make a movie more like STID which was "successful".

According to articles Paramount is already bracing for a bad 2017. Sad though because movies like Whiskey Tango Foxtrot and Florence Foster Jenkins were actually pretty good.
Transformers 5 and Mission: Impossible 6 can't come soon enough for Paramount... if it (M:I-6) happens at all!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...e-brakes-on-tom-cruises-mission-impossible-6/
 
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