The Doctor's Name (contains spoilers)

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Don't read this Qutlunch, if you don't want to know the answer to your musings.

It just occurred to me that of course the Doctor takes years, if ever, to choose a name. Any name he has is a demotion from being called by all and sundry in every possible social situation his illustrious title, "Doctor". He is such a fat head that names are all a step down from that.

Now I do think he picked a name in Endgame because of his wife. Maybe he would have preferred her whispering "oh Doctor!" in his ear in bed but I'm sure she pygmallioned him down (lol) to an actual name.

 

[Lipton]

He did choose a name in "Heroes and Demons". Doctor Schweitzer, but then was saddened by that name because of the dead valkyrie hololady.

In "Before and After" alternate reality, Doctor van Gogh.

Ultimately, in the final timeline, it is unlikely he will marry that lady, since holograms are ageless and he will probably choose someone else while the lady he chose in Endgame. He may still choose the name Joe at that, though.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think he gave up after dabbling with naming himself after famous people.

I bet the Endgame wife told him that naming himself "Joe" was irony because of course he could never be an average Joe

It would be his little in joke.

 

[Lipton]

There's an idea!

Did you hear the goofy sound test I did? The plot is supposed to be a joke, by the way. Just want to make that clear.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Forget a name! I want him to don the toupee from "Before and After". Only then will be be complete.

 

[Guy Gardener]

LANA: Joe has a real flair for romantic gestures.
PARIS: Joe?
EMH: I decided I couldn't get married without a name.
PARIS: It took you thirty three years to come up with Joe?
EMH: It was Lana's grandfather's name.
PARIS: Oh. Oh, so you're not a.
LANA: A hologram? No.

Joe Carey is going to haunt his ass.

Though when they're divorced or she dies, is he going to keep the name?

i mean if he hates her because of divorce the Doctor may just need to eject that name.

But if she dies and they're still in love, the lad is stuck with it for ever.

How old was that actress playing Lana?

If Admiral Janeway had taken him to one side and assured her physician that Lana was the love of his life and that as soon as 'they all' returned to the Alpha Quadrant that he should run into her 7 year old arms and make love to her like a husband should.

No.

It's (almost) not disgusting.

He's 7 as well.

Just a little tall for his age.

 

[Lipton]

Chances are, I don't think the old Admiral Janeway mentioned it to the Doctor.

Which means he might not ever meet Lana, and who knows what his name would be... if he marries someone else it will probably be her grandfather's name. Which could be Joe.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Though when they're divorced or she dies, is he going to keep the name?

No.

Can't you just see it, 100 years from now you will be able to trace the Doctor's multiple marriages by what his first name was during that time period.

"Oh the Ethan years.. that's when he had Blonde No. III, they paled, PALED in comparison to the Darcy years. Can you believe that ginger minx actually suckered him into her Austen fantasies?"

 

[Guy Gardener]

My vision blurred for a half a second.

"Australian adventurers"

Oh Lipton, 24 years into the past, and the Doctor could have been dating Lana's grandfather.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

"The Russel years" in which Doctor Russel wrastles endangered wildlife to death all the while soliloquizing upon his own greatness. Tall tales to bore all subsequent wives.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Sounds more like the Hemingway years.

"Call me Papa. Doctor Papa."

 

[Lipton]

Guy Gardener: Doctor Papa! A ha ha!

Very, very funny. And as you said, 24 years earlier... who would he have been dating? No one knows. Perhaps he might have decided he was a homosexual hologram and done just that. (No offense meant, I am simply agreeing with Guy Gardener about the radically different timelines.)

 

[Guy Gardener]

Why is it offensive to suggest the Doctor is gay?

Oh.

You meant that it was offensive to agree with me on anything.

I can see that.

But, I found it more offensive when the Doctor was repulsed by a man's interest in him while he was driving Seven like a race car in Flesh and Blood, and then felt no compassion when that dudes sister was repulsed by him because she couldn't tell that he was a man trapped in a woman's body... Even though, y'know... This brother and sister act where space nazis intent on the extermination of all holographic (space Jew) life in the universe, who would have murdered or lobotomised him if they knew who he truly was... But the Doctor over looked those charming foibles because he wanted to bang the sister (Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmegan Gallagher.) and Joe knew, just knew that if they got to know him as a person that they would abandon their blood soaked crusade to butcher and mince his people because it was the right thing to do and they were silly not to agree with his point of view that he shouldn't be vivisected by these Borgiasian Siblings.

You don't think there were sexual exchanges between guards and prisoners in the Nazi concentration camps?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071650/

So how do you think B'Elanna got pregnant in the Killing Game?

Men are pigs.

 

[Lipton]

No, I did not want anyone to interpret that I was poking fun at gay people.

You see, because I used the word decide... and I thought people might respond that gay people are born gay because of their genetics and can't decide their sexual orientation at all.

By the way, I personally believe that being gay is a choice, but I don't want to force that belief on others. I understand there are those who believe differently than me about a lot of things and I respectfully acknowledge that they and I have differing views. I do not try to convert them to my way of thinking because that is disrespectful and wrong.

The Doctor is a hologram, and doesn't have genetics anyway, but I still didn't want gay people to take it as an implication that I had a bad attitude toward them.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Imagine your soul was built stem to stern by Reginald Barclay.

 

[Lipton]

I have no idea why you're talking about him. What?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think that would be kind of attractive.

Barclay is a kind of proto-Rodney Mckay.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I have no idea why you're talking about him. What?

In the season two episode "Projections" it was revealed that the Doctor's interpersonal-subroutines were designed by Reginald Barclay.

The doctor is the super heroic larger than life intensely wise adored and woreshipped person that this timid wallflower wishes that he could be... It's a revenge fantasy. like a schoolyard shooting, or even like in Weird science when Iron Man put tits on a Russian nuclear missile.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I think that would be kind of attractive.

Barclay is a kind of proto-Rodney Mckay.

Try to find a Canadian drama from the late 90s called 'traders" it's about a small group of stockmarketeers in a bank... The wall flower aspergers super genius is played by David Hewlette and the egomaniac Mollarian ranter in charge of the pitt is played by another mad scientist from Stargate... Patrick "Felger" Mckenna.

Hewlette plays Broccoli tens time better than Dwight.

 

[Lipton]

Guy Gardener: Ah yes, that episode! It's been so long ago. I don't tend to think about that episode very much as most of what happened in it was just a holodeck malfunction.

It seems to me that his interpersonal subroutines have a lot of similarities with the real personality of Lewis Zimmerman when we see him later in the series. It seemed to me that Dr. Lewis was like an older, crankier, lonelier version of the Doctor.

So... part revenge fantasy, part Lewis Zimmerman?

P. S. And Patrick McKenna was also Harold Green on the Red Green Show! I loved that show. "I am a man, but I can change, if I have to... I guess."