I mentioned Series 6B in the other thread. Could this be the Doctor from that point? TARDIS looks like the TARDIS by this point, and there could be a mind wipe involved.
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But, the mind wipe would not need to wipe things like the knowledge of the sonic screwdriver--just the events of 6B. From the Doctor's perspective, he'd go from season 6 right into season 7. And the sonic existed in season 6. Only specific knowledge wiped for that transition.
So, I'm thinking the Hartnell TARDIS plus no knowledge of the sonic = between 1 & 2.
It could also be a future Doctor where there was (and continues to be) more extensive mind wiping for nefarious purposes. Along with the observed programming for violence.
Or, a Doctor from an alternate universe where things are just different all around.
Brain of Morbius says hi.
Rest of series says "Bye!"
Ok, new theory: Between when the kid Doctor/Master stare into the Untempered Schism and when they enter the Academy, they’re yanked out of time by the CIA and used as their wet-work agents. Likely other kids as well, who would eventually become the Monk/Rani/Corsair/Drax etc. When they reach the end of their regeneration cycle, they get a total mindwipe, a new cycle (tailored to exactly match the ‘face’ they were wearing when taken) and dropped right back where they were, none the wiser. But elements of those forgotten lives stay with them, shaping them into the people we’ll know.
Or maybe the regeneration limit doesn’t apply to them while they’re on the job. Maybe they can’t be killed, unless they’re vaporized like Gat was. After all, they’d be out of their timestream, suspended between heartbeats... timeless.
Note: in this theory, the TARDIS we see Jo fly is NOT the TARDIS we all know. But that later TARDIS will pick up on the buried memory fragment in Hartnell’s mind of the police box, and adopt it when it gets the chance and lands in the right time/place.
Or maybe the regeneration limit doesn’t apply to them while they’re on the job. Maybe they can’t be killed, unless they’re vaporized like Gat was. After all, they’d be out of their timestream, suspended between heartbeats... timeless.
Note: in this theory, the TARDIS we see Jo fly is NOT the TARDIS we all know. But that later TARDIS will pick up on the buried memory fragment in Hartnell’s mind of the police box, and adopt it when it gets the chance and lands in the right time/place.
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Or maybe this is the First Doctor (and TARDIS) from a parallel universe/alternate reality. Doctor Who could be dipping into the multi-universe thing...
I like the 6B theory most personally, just because unlike the pre-Hartnell possibilities, it only has one hole that needs to be fanwanked away (Dr. Ruth's lack of recognition of and disdain for the the sonic), while the proto-Doctor theories have a lot more baggage to work around with the Police Box thing, and potentially the Doctor being a boy as a child. I do think the Other Doctor is most likely to be pre-Hartnell, because that's easier to sell to the more casual viewer (at least, in theory; I'm not sure it'd actually be that hard to drop the tidbit that we never actually saw the Second Doctor become the Third in an artful montage or bit of tossed-off dialog).
Kinda like this theory!
The whole past 2 series this isn't Earth it's a parallel Earth that the Doctor has landed in, The fam and Ruth Doctor are native to this universe and Jodie Doctor is the alien. That's the theory I put in the other thread, and it would explain why there's no memories of past invasions of Earth where aliens became a thing and why there's no more UNIT.
I like Ruth's console room. This may seem like a strange comparison, but it really looks to me like a Herman Zimmerman-designed bridge set from a 1990s Star Trek production.
After or in place of the Arabella Weir Doctor?
(Big Finish's Exile is an alternate take on Season 6B.)
After or in place of the Arabella Weir Doctor?
(Big Finish's Exile is an alternate take on Season 6B.)I'm starting to like this theory the more I think about it.
To the Doctor, not to the audience. My verdict's out until after the finale airs. Especially as so many showrunners have tinkered with the show's premise ever since 1966, I'm not sure if it's better to toy with the audience or do a direct reintroduction every (5> 10 years) if they have nothing else to get draaaaaaaaaaamatic weight from anymore.
I like Ruth's console room. This may seem like a strange comparison, but it really looks to me like a Herman Zimmerman-designed bridge set from a 1990s Star Trek production.
After or in place of the Arabella Weir Doctor?
It's a great reuse of the set built for the 50th anniversary mockumentary* and looks far more like a proper TARDIS interior than any of NuWHO's sets to date. Even capaldi's.
* documentary with lame jokes that do more to attack the show than anything else
With the exception of that "An Unearthly Child" sets up the explanation for the TARDIS shell changing shape to camouflage (but breaks down, hence the ship being stuck as a police box), this incarnation could be a previous set of regenerations' last model - or earlier - and just took a trip to Earth for a while and left again, it'd be entirely seamless. She'd save Gallifrey or whatever that had Hartnell and Susan saying they left their planet from some calamity and were lucky to be alive, followed by the remainder of the "first 13" episodes that set up their backstory. Smith got a new set of lives for his heroism... this also ties into the 7th Doctor telling Davros he's more than an ordinary time lord (despite the egoism involved, LOL!!)
It could fit quite legitimately. Or it could be handled very haphazardly.
Now if they do a spinoff series, hire Jo full time for the incarnation. They nailed it all: Persona, outfit, and actor right from the get-go.
(sorry for the 3 in-a-row but it has been a couple days)
That’s what I thought too.
One problem with the Pre Hartnell theory is that we saw the Doctor and the Tardis meet. Clara was there. Unless, it was set up that way. The Doctor, freshly mindwiped and a new persona as a renegade Timelord, a Tardis waiting, door ajar...
I would buy that. The TARDIS exists across all time and space. The Time Lords could reset her to a point, but she'd go right back to being stuck as a police box.
Ooh. Thought. Lawrence Miles (and some of the other novelists) played with the idea that TARDISes retroactively created the Time Lords to justify their own existence (i.e. the "tools" of the Time Lords are actually their creators) and were secretly guiding events from behind the scenes (the Doctor's TARDIS was seen as developmentally challenged because she just wanted to be part of events rather than shaping them, much like the Doctor).
Now, who really fits the title "The Timeless Child"?
That would be a cool twist. Those TARDIS matrices were gods (or Time Lords of a sort) in the long ago, or even the previous universe. They could only manifest themselves by going inside the TARDIS's (TARDII?).
You should be writing for this show, or at least Big Finish.
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