The Doctor’s multiple talents

[Kilana2]

That's the problem with holodeck. You can change or reprogram weaknesses, outward appearances and other things you don't like. I guess, it's the artificial, unrealistic scenario with the Doctor's family that puts off hux.
In reality you have to deal with unpleasant people. Raising children is no matter or programming them to your liking.
This whole holo family episode was soap opera like, but still entertaining.

It's still possible that the Doctor finds a flesh-and-blood partner. As he is unable to procreate, they could raise an orphan. After the wars the AQ underwent in recent times, there would be many children left without parents. That would be a real challenge for the Doctor.

But the whole family scenario seemed to have been an experiment to me. The Doctor is more busy with earning appreciation for his work, even after Voyager's return to the AQ.

 

[Timewalker]

...the horrific death of a child is NOT what it's like to have a God damn family.

It is for the people who have been in that situation. So the Doctor did, in an admittedly limited way, experience something that some non-holographic families go through.

 

[hux]

Firstly, the horrific death of a child is NOT what it's like to have a God damn family. Secondly, it's a holographic family. There is no good and bad. There is only pretend.

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in this.

Are you seriously saying that nobody who has a real (as in human) family ever experiences the death of a child?

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in me.

And yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying children never ever die in real life.

...the horrific death of a child is NOT what it's like to have a God damn family.

It is for the people who have been in that situation. So the Doctor did, in an admittedly limited way, experience something that some non-holographic families go through.

I really am worth quoting twice, aren't I? I'm glad people are finally starting to see this.

Some families experience murder, rape and paedophilia but I'm not entirely sure any of those things would be regarded as normal family experiences. It would be idiotic to suggest otherwise (especially in the Trek paradise where death has virtually been cured). Forcing the doctor to have a first family experience that involves the death of a child was indicative of the psychologically unbalanced nature of B'Elanna Torres. Only she would think to inflict that onto someone as a means of showing them what family life is.

 

[Timewalker]

Firstly, the horrific death of a child is NOT what it's like to have a God damn family. Secondly, it's a holographic family. There is no good and bad. There is only pretend.

Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in this.

Are you seriously saying that nobody who has a real (as in human) family ever experiences the death of a child?

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in me.

And yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying children never ever die in real life.

Then you have led a remarkably sheltered life.

...the horrific death of a child is NOT what it's like to have a God damn family.

It is for the people who have been in that situation. So the Doctor did, in an admittedly limited way, experience something that some non-holographic families go through.

I really am worth quoting twice, aren't I? I'm glad people are finally starting to see this.

Some families experience murder, rape and paedophilia but I'm not entirely sure any of those things would be regarded as normal family experiences. It would be idiotic to suggest otherwise (especially in the Trek paradise where death has virtually been cured). Forcing the doctor to have a first family experience that involves the death of a child was indicative of the psychologically unbalanced nature of B'Elanna Torres. Only she would think to inflict that onto someone as a means of showing them what family life is.

I quoted your comments because first I wanted to be certain I understood what you meant, and second, because I disagree with you. Children die. And nobody in the Trek universe is immortal.

There are lots of other people on this forum I've quoted a lot more times, but they don't seem to have a need to make a fuss about it.

 

[Kilana2]

They shouldn't be immortal. But they bring back certain characters back to life despite their presumed death. At least they do that off-screen in the novels with beloved characters. But I can relate to Riker when he had the Q powers and refused to resurrect the child.....

But children die, even in the 24th century. Because there are always wars, accidents in inequalities.

Fact is: the Voyager characters try to defy death.... by undoing it.

Is the Doctor immortal? Say, when his programming is damaged? Barclay would conjure up a new Doctor, maybe from a backup or whatever. Would he be the same?

 

[hux]

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in this.

Are you seriously saying that nobody who has a real (as in human) family ever experiences the death of a child?

You appear somewhat emotionally invested in me.

And yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying children never ever die in real life.

Then you have led a remarkably sheltered life

Durr

I quoted your comments because first I wanted to be certain I understood what you meant, and second, because I disagree with you. Children die. And nobody in the Trek universe is immortal.

There are lots of other people on this forum I've quoted a lot more times, but they don't seem to have a need to make a fuss about it.

Durr

 

[Inactive-Shapeshifter]

I am also a big fan of the doctor, he was inspiration for me to seek my talents, and i must say that without him i most certanly would not know how to sing or play piano the way i do. Also, i am a fan of Data / EMH and Vic as well, with the permission to add Odo, even tough he is not AI...

 

[Catarina]

I am also a big fan of the doctor, he was inspiration for me to seek my talents, and i must say that without him i most certanly would not know how to sing or play piano the way i do. Also, i am a fan of Data / EMH and Vic as well, with the permission to add Odo, even tough he is not AI...

That's wonderful :-) Thank you for sharing.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

7 of 9 was my most inspirational Trek character.

Oh and reading the last page, I can't help but think the Doctor would be secretly preening over people fighting about him

 

[Kilana2]

The Doctor's most important talent: multi-tasking. I'm envious of him about it....

On the other hand it means: during intercourse he composes opera and writes scientific papers.....

 

[Catarina]

The Doctor's most important talent: multi-tasking. I'm envious of him about it....

On the other hand it means: during intercourse he composes opera and writes scientific papers.....

Hot.

 

[Kilana2]

Remember when Seven created that Chakotay holo double. The Doctor could do that with Seven, too, because the real Seven doesn't reciprocate his feelings. I guess, if he did it he would be ashamed. Creating holo doubles is frowned upon. Think of Troi's reaction when Barclay duplicated her.....

 

[Catarina]

How could I forget? *seven sucking on 1st officer finger* shuuuuderrrs.
I'd think it would be frowned upon. Geordi paid the price with that Engineering lady too. (I forget the title)

 

[hux]

How could I forget? *seven sucking on 1st officer finger* shuuuuderrrs.

I had forgot.

You should be punished for reminding me. How could you.

 

[Catarina]

You're right. how inconsiderate of me.

 

[Kilana2]

How could I forget? *seven sucking on 1st officer finger* shuuuuderrrs.
I'd think it would be frowned upon. Geordi paid the price with that Engineering lady too. (I forget the title)

Leah Brahms. Dr. Brahms.

Geordi is better off with another date.

Brahms? Halstad (a doctor)? The authors are inconsistent about that. At least he dates women.

I think the Doctor is able to find a flesh-and-blood partner if he wanted to.

I have my doubts regarding Barclay, though.

 

[Timewalker]

I have my doubts regarding Barclay, though.

Barclay's basically hopeless, unless he finds someone else as socially inept as he is.

 

[Kilana2]

I have my doubts regarding Barclay, though.

Barclay's basically hopeless, unless he finds someone else as socially inept as he is.

Although it would be cute if he had someone.

I don't like the cliché, that engineers are unable to socialize. I think at least for Geordi there is hope.

Picard took Beverly...... after how many years? Such things take time.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I like Barclay 1000 X more than Geordie.

Barclay also has a cat.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

"Geordie" LaForge...now there's a thought.

"Why aye man! I can get ya Warp 10.5 for yas like!"

As for Barclay...I said this before, Barclay is one of the most loyal friends anyone could want. He might have a hard time making friends, but once that's done, he's solid.