News The Disney+ (The New Streaming Service) Thread

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  1. UssGlenn

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    So what's actually racist in the Dumbo crow scene anyway? It's been a while since I saw it. Is it just the accents? IIRC the Jim Crow name is a production joke, it's not in the movie.

    Speaking of things I haven't seen in a while....
    Yeah, most people haven't even seen the animated segments in 30 years, and may have never seen the live action bits at all. I've never seen the live action bits. I do know some of the criticisms come from misinformation on the movie.
     
  2. theenglish

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    I understand the embarrassment or the wanting to not openly release Song of the South or other shorts, but it seems that this would be the perfect platform to do this. I would even suggest having a scholarly (but entertaining) analysis prior to the movie, or even an alternate audio track with analysis. I'm fifty and I have never seen Song of the South either, so I imagine that the number of people who have and are still alive at this point is relatively small compared to other movies.
     
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  3. Peach Wookiee

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    I actually found it on YouTube a few years back. I'm glad I saw the whole thing. I think other people should have the choice.
     
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  4. JD

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    I was looking around at stuff from Song of the South on the Disney Wiki the other day, and I was surprised to see despite the issues with the movie itself, they have still used the animated characters in recent crossover shows, like House of Mouse and stuff like that.
     
  5. Untitled Hallmark Sequel

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    They have a popular theme park ride too, Splash Mountain.
     
  6. crookeddy

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    Splash mountain is not there anymore???
     
  7. Untitled Hallmark Sequel

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    Where did you get that? I was pointing out it uses the characters.
     
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    Ooooops somehow read that as "had a ride"
     
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    It is still there and likely will be for a while. What's interesting that it was largely an excuse to use all the animatronic characters from America Sings.
     
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    I've seen it on YouTube and Vimeo. I saw a bootleg DVD at a comic-con a few years back and almost regret not picking it up.
     
  11. crookeddy

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    And to add a log ride which every single theme park has.
     
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    Plus a thrill ride because Eisner wanted the parks to appeal to teenagers like his son. This is why we got Star Tours too. I love the history of the parks and the rides.
     
  13. JD

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    Yeah, I saw that when I was looking around on the Disney Wiki. I had heard it was related to Song of the South, but I didn't realize until then that it actually had animatronic versions of the animated characters.
    So for those who have seen it, how much of it is the live action stuff with Uncle Remus and the kids and how much is the animated stuff with Br're Rabbit, Br'er Fox, ect.? I wonder if maybe they could just add the animated stuff at some point?
     
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    I think it’s not really that much, some of it is a mix of live action and animation. The Zippitity Doo Da song is probably the most iconic scene and it’s a mix.
     
  15. Greg Cox

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    As I recall, we're talking stereotypical "comic darkie" dialect straight out of "Amos & Andy."

    Audiences at the time would have surely got the "joke" about the black crows talking like black stereotypes. Whether this would fly over the heads of modern audiences is an interesting question.
     
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    I am glad I saw “Song of the South” the last time it was released in the movie theaters. I liked it. Didn’t expect it to disappear.
     
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    Very good question...
     
  19. Spot's Meow

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    It's been a few years since I've seen it, but I think there is more live action than animation. I'm glad I saw the movie too, it wasn't what I was expecting. Based on what's been said about it and all of the secrecy, I was expecting something horribly racist and disturbing. It was actually a sweet movie that had a nice message in the context of the time in which it was made. Certainly not something that would be made today, but I guess it surprised me that it gets so much heat when there is other content out there that seems so much worse. I can think of sitcoms from the 60s and 70s, and even 80s and 90s, that were far more offensive and which you can buy on DVD anytime. Hell, Gone with the Wind is way worse and somehow that's considered a classic. I wish they would release Song of the South and let people watch it for themselves.
     
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  20. Mr. Adventure

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    I watched Amos and Andy on Youtube within the last couple of years out of curiousity and was surprised to find that it was basically a Honeymooners type show (if anything, they're more middle class). I actually thought it was banned because the actors were in blackface and was really surprised to find it was a show with an all-black cast which I had no idea even existed in the 50s.

    EDIT: I trimmed my response then realize this seems kind of going off topic now, I was originally trying to tie it in with how this stuff has been so scrubbed away that for many people it's as if this stuff never existed such as Song of the South.
     
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