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The Death of the Superhero Comic

Norrin Radd

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I pray Devin Faraci is right.

The Big Two keep telling the same old stories with the same old characters and I want them to go away.



THE DEVIN'S ADVOCATE: THE NEW DEPRESSION MAY BE THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO COMICS

By Devin Faraci

In the years that I've been writing for CHUD I've gone from a guy who bought a lot of comics on a weekly basis to a guy who was a trade waiter to a guy who buys almost no comics at all. I may pick up a highly regarded trade when I need something to read, but the only book that I actually follow anymore is Scott Pilgrim, and that is almost over. I could attribute some of this to growing up, and certainly my intolerance for the bullshit that is superhero comics is a side effect of waking up one morning and deciding that being an adult isn't the worst thing in the world. But I don't think I'm alone in this, and the sales charts bear me out.

And those sales charts looked disheartening before the economy started sliding down the shitter like a miscarried baby. Times are tough, and the outlook remains bleak. We're in the opening stages of a new depression, and the realization that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better is going to have a serious impact on certain industries, and comics may be among the hardest hit. Superhero comics, at any rate. And I couldn't be any happier.

I love comic books. I love the medium as a way of telling stories; I think that like film it's a limitless form, one that can be used to tell any story and in any way. The marriage of art and words is magical, and opens so many doors for storytellers. Which is why it's so depressing that most of them remain closed in the world of mainstream comics. For longer than I've been alive the superhero has dominated the comic landscape; the phrase 'comic book movie' specifically means 'superhero movie.' The superhero is the face of comic books to the general public. I don't believe I have ever seen a medium so completely and fully dominated by one genre before. Imagine if the vast majority of movies available to the public were Westerns and you begin to see what the world of comic books - mainstream comic books - is like.

And this is very, very bad. Superheroes are very, very bad. They're like 50 year old hookers chainsmoking on the corner: used up, their best days behind them, appealing only to the most debased, most awful people. The fanbase for superhero comics in this day and age tends to be a devolved group clinging to degrading psychosexual power fantasies that take them away from their daily powerlessness. White males on the sidelines of society who are attached to juvenile escapades and repetitive, stunted storytelling. I'm beginning to look at adults who are deeply immersed in superheroes the way I would look at a grown man eating baby food for lunch. Except that I would say the baby food guy is at least getting some nourishment.

The continued life of the superhero comic almost feels like a conspiracy. The direct market, in collaboration with the Big Two publishers, Marvel and DC, has pandered to the core constituency of superhero comics, essentially alienating everybody else. Almost feels like a conspiracy, but I think it's simply the fact that the Big Two are among the worst run businesses in the country; instead of using the core, weekly consumers as a base upon which to rely while growing their business, they have turned to milking that base for every penny possible, which turns off those on the outskirts of the base - shrinking that base yearly. Each company's attempts to reach out to new readers feels more half-assed than the last, and Vertigo seems to be the only attempt that has borne any fruit... a decade ago. Meanwhile, the Big Two has remained resistant to any changes in their decades old business model; Marvel is JUST NOW starting to sell comics on iTunes, despite it being dead obvious that the internet was the next frontier for comics years ago. And don't get me started on the way DC dragged its feet on the trade paperback front forever.

Besides pursuing business plans that has pushed away their readership over the years, the Big Two have poisoned the well for the medium of comics, keeping it from transcending its status as geekbait. It feels like every time a comic comes along that stands outside the superhero genre and tells a unique, enjoyable story through the merging of words and pictures and gets some mainstream appreciation, one of the Big Two pull off a stunt that gets media attention and reminds everybody that comic books actually mean men in tights pandering to the kind of people you hope don't sit next to you on the bus.

The direct market has done the same. The average comic store remains among the least friendly places on Earth for people who aren't interested in the dark abyss of superhero fandom. These stores have become more and more insular, while Diamond, the company that stocks these stores, has made it harder for independent, non-superhero books to make it to the shelves. These independents have been waging a guerilla insurgency for the better part of the decade, and they've made remarkable headway as web comics, on Amazon and at your local bookstore. Meanwhile, the Big Two dance at their Masquerade of the Red Death, held weekly at Captain Mystery's House of Atomic Secrets.

Marvel and DC have set themselves up perfectly for the bomb, and that has come in the form of the economic crisis. As Americans lose their jobs in record numbers, as the news looks bleaker and bleaker by the night, the Big Two are trying to sell you 22 page monthly pamphlets for 4 bucks. Four dollars for a comic book. Many will point to Starbucks coffee as a sign that Americans will shell out lots of dough for something simple, but the truth is that even Starbucks has been closing stores and are preparing a value menu. And the argument could be made that you definitely need a coffee with two add shots a lot more than you need a Batman comic. All of a sudden the Big Two are stuck with a business model that was shit even when the economy was doing well.

If the economy continues its downward slide and if the Big Two don't make the necessary, radical changes to their business plans, superhero comics as we know them are dead. And if things keep on this trajectory, they could be dead in 18 months. I don't even feel like this is a huge leap - the mainstream comic industry has been hemorrhaging readers for years, and while entertainment will continue to be a priority for the consumer as the economy tanks, the consumer will be much more careful with where that entertainment dollar is spent. It doesn't take a mathematician to tell you that your entertainment dollar does not go very far with comic books; you're better off spending that money on video games or blu-rays. Monthly pamphlets may in fact be the single worst value for your entertainment dollar. In the end that is what will kill this business model.

I don't mean that Spider-Man will go away. Superman will still exist. Comic book movies remain big business, and superheroes sell toys and underwear. The monthly comics feel like the appendix of the superhero genre at this point - a primitive organ that serves little to no function. When was the last time a really new character broke out in the world of the Big Two? Marvel and DC just keep playing with the same toys. Meanwhile, independent superhero comics pop up as naked grabs at movie options, not as actual attempts to tell serialized stories. These publishers have outlived their usefulness as property generators; each now has a rich backlog of characters, concepts and stories that can be mined in movies and cartoons for decades. As losses mount in the coming months, what reason will Marvel and DC's parent companies have to keep them running the way they run now?

Meanwhile, Volume 5 of Bryan Lee O'Malley's Scott Pilgrim sold so well that Amazon had to quadruple its original order. Like many other independent comics, Scott Pilgrim is finite, and will one day live in a collected volume that will be completely accessible to all. Unlike the endlessly serialized nature of superhero books, these indies allow new readers access AND closure (the continued sales of Watchmen reflect many things, but at least one major thing is that it's a self-contained story that requires no further investment or knowledge than what is within the pages of the book). And unlike the superhero books, these comics have infiltrated themselves into places where mainstream readers might find them easily. These books are like the little mammals and Marvel and DC are the great huge dinosaurs who rule the Earth... for now.

When Marvel and DC fall (and for me it's when, not if. I guarantee to you that ten years from now the idea of going to a comic shop to buy part 17 of a universe-spanning crossover event will seem as bizarre to readers as it would be for readers today to go to a grocery store to pick up Night Nurse), the world of comic books is going to be in serious disarray. Local shops that haven't already branched out into geek interests beyond comics will be destroyed almost overnight; hybrid stores that offer everything from video games to baseball cards and maybe have a social element - coffee shop for instance - will be left standing, but barely. Spider-Man will go on to star in five more movies, and there will be some sort of comic tie-in for them, but that'll be tertiary marketing. The Big Two will still be publishing something, but it won't be monthly pamphlets in the way we know them today - maybe we'll get endless reprint trades and occasional new graphic novels.

The comic world will seem like a wasteland for a while, but those independent mammals will have positioned themselves perfectly for the next phase. I don't think these books will become suddenly profitable overnight; I know that many creators struggle to make ends meet while producing their books. That won't change. People will still have day jobs and will write and draw on the side. But suddenly, without the superhero choking everything, these books will find the opportunity to grow. The artistic drive that makes people want to tell stories will continue, and a new economic model for these books will be created - hell, it's already being created. And I don't think that this means comic books will suddenly become an endless series of stories about being abused by your dad or about having no luck with girls; there will be adventure and science fiction and horror and romance. Getting into writing and drawing mainstream comics today is like being in a cover band - you want to do your version of Aquaman. When the superhero dies, it's going to be like being in a garage band. You do it because you love it, because you have songs to sing. And maybe somebody will take notice and you'll make some bucks off it. And just as it is with music today, the ways that you sell your art to people will be different. Just like bands no longer rely on Sam Goody to carry their CDs, comic creators won't be stuck with Diamond and comic stores. Again, this has already begun.

It may take a decade or it may take a year, but eventually the connection between superhero and comic book will fade, at least to the point where we're going to find ourselves in a place where the idea of mainstream publications, critics and readers taking notice of comic books will no longer be astonishing. When superheroes die comic books will have finally left behind their long, ugly, awkward adolescence and will be ready to join television and movies as mainstream storytellers. And just as movies and television encompass many genres, it will become widely accepted that comic books can tell stories of all sorts, for many different audiences.

There are people who will say this is idealistic, but the truth is that we are a visual society. We are used to having stories told to us in pictures. The language of comic books is actually universal enough that anybody can pick one up and understand how to read it. I honestly believe that what is holding the medium back is the perception block caused by superheroes, and that once comics become disassociated with that genre things can change. The hardest work may have already been done; books like Maus and Watchmen and Sandman have broken down many barriers, and books like Scott Pilgrim and Ghost World have used the opportunity to get in further. A general audience gets the idea that the medium of graphic fiction isn't inherently juvenile, but they rightly believe that it usually is.

We're close. I welcome the death of superhero comics with open arms. I gladly bid farewell to the endlessly serialized adventures of the members of the Justice League and Reed Richards and friends. Hopefully the people who have made their livings creating and selling these awful comics will be able to find new jobs and make new livings. I wish them all the best of luck. But if there's going to be one good thing that comes out of this new great depression, it's going to be the understanding that comic books are bigger than superheroes.

http://chud.com/articles/articles/1...THING-THAT-EVER-HAPPENED-TO-COMICS/Page1.html
 
Every year the comics industry is supposed to die and all those characters are supposed to end up more forgotten than Malibu comics, yet they are still around.
Devin Faraci wrote:
Hopefully the people who have made their livings creating and selling these awful comics will be able to find new jobs and make new livings.
That's a matter of opinion there have been plenty of good stuff over the years. If you don't like them don't read them or buy them. Wishing for this industry to die seems to be counterproductive.
 
Seems like he has an axe to grind. One moment he says it is inevitable that Marvel/DC will fall then the next he's talking about what they'll be publishing next.

Not that I have an interest... haven't bought a non-Star Trek comic in fifteen years.
 
Well, I didn't read the entire rant there, but here's my thoughts. First off, the reason superheroes dominate the comic format is because they essentially created it, along with smaller newspaper comics, which are still around too, though I guess that's not technically the same format. And also because they still sell. It's not really a big secret.

That said, the comic industry has gotten really difficult on new readers lately. I'm a casual fan of comics. Most of that is from my unsuccessful attempt to become a bigger comic fan which ended in disaster when I realized that all DC comics seemed to have morphed into a single mondo story and that buying only one or two titles was pointless, since the mondo storyline inserted itself into my comics constantly.

Take Teen Titans for example. It was going along fairly well until some crisis or other, wherein the entire series turned into a disjointed series of seemingly random disconnected events I couldn't follow (apparently I needed to be reading Flash and some other comic to understand it). Anyway, Superboy dies at the end because of...some random guy called Alex who I had to look up on Wiki.

After that, they jumped ahead one year so that suddenly all the characters are missing and replaced with lame new characters I don't give a shit about and all the other old characters are still acting all emo and it really just devolved into another mondo story I couldn't follow again...(apparently I had to read Amazon Attacks or something? I didn't know this at the time) So, yeah, I dropped that like a hot cinder. I've learned my lesson: Reprints/trades only. That way I can read the entire plot beforehand on Wiki and know what to buy. Anyway, that's the non-hardcore perspective.
 
The problem with superhero comics isn't pandering to the fanbase, it's writers' and editors' nostalgia and preferences conflicting to prevent any good storytelling.
Major superhero comics exist in shared universes with high writer turnover and each writer has their own vision for the characters and the universe, often driven by nostalgia because most comic writers grew up reading comics. To add to this, you have editors, whose job it is to provide some consistent vision, mangling the writers' stories to fit their own nostalgic interpretations of the character without actually considering the artistic impact of such changes. Having so many conflicting visions simply destroys any chance of good storytelling. And then there are marketing stunt crossovers that combine the horrors of writing by committee with the inconsistencies that crop up when multiple writers attempt to push their own conflicting agendas and prejudices and are given the autonomy to do so within a single story.

Personally, I stopped reading mainstream comics when Spiderman sold his baby to the devil.

Indy comics are better because they usually have a single creator/writer with a single consistent vision. They take place in their own little world so they don't have to worry about crossovers and shared characters. And they usually don't have fanboyish editors. In short, there is nothing to get in the way of telling the story that the creator wants to tell.
 
I think the fans are to blame for part of this. Pretty loaded statement huh??!!!

If you don't like a title don't buy. So I often on this forum and others I see people say they stick with title out character loyalty. Even if they don't like it for years. Same for creator loyalty. I am amazed at the cult of personality that exists in fandom for certain writers and artists. Deciding they like something before hand because who wrote.

Dc and Marvel are never going to change their product if they know a significant percentage of the remaining readership will stick with them no matter what. Continuing to buy books to "stay current". BUT WHY?

Heck I watched "Desperate Wives" in its first season...(Not sure why now!!!! ) But I don't need to now what is happening on it now. If I wanted to know I could do a internet search without spending a dime.
 
Yeesh, what a bunch of whining. He's the Grinch who doesn't like superheroes and is out to ruin everyone else's fun. Superheroes are not blocking the success of Scott Pilgrim: the whole reason they dominate the format in the US is because they were the only genre to have a sustained reader base. It's good that distribution, etc. is such that other things are also finding success.

That superheroes are somehow driving people away from comics is particularly odd given that superhero films and cartoons are, as he acknowledges, extremely popular. The problem has been that since comics started to get driven out of the newstand market in the 1970s because of pricing, they've been progressively closed off.

The next decade is going to see some fairly major changes in distribution, particularly with regard to the 'Net, one suspects (personally, I had reading things on computers, but we'll see how it develops; Marvel's current web reader is annoying, but perhaps they'll develop a better one).
 
Well, I didn't read the entire rant there, but here's my thoughts. First off, the reason superheroes dominate the comic format is because they essentially created it, along with smaller newspaper comics, which are still around too, though I guess that's not technically the same format. And also because they still sell. It's not really a big secret.

That said, the comic industry has gotten really difficult on new readers lately. I'm a casual fan of comics. Most of that is from my unsuccessful attempt to become a bigger comic fan which ended in disaster when I realized that all DC comics seemed to have morphed into a single mondo story and that buying only one or two titles was pointless, since the mondo storyline inserted itself into my comics constantly.

Take Teen Titans for example. It was going along fairly well until some crisis or other, wherein the entire series turned into a disjointed series of seemingly random disconnected events I couldn't follow (apparently I needed to be reading Flash and some other comic to understand it). Anyway, Superboy dies at the end because of...some random guy called Alex who I had to look up on Wiki.

After that, they jumped ahead one year so that suddenly all the characters are missing and replaced with lame new characters I don't give a shit about and all the other old characters are still acting all emo and it really just devolved into another mondo story I couldn't follow again...(apparently I had to read Amazon Attacks or something? I didn't know this at the time) So, yeah, I dropped that like a hot cinder. I've learned my lesson: Reprints/trades only. That way I can read the entire plot beforehand on Wiki and know what to buy. Anyway, that's the non-hardcore perspective.

^The EXACT same thing happened to me when I was reading Teen Titans.

As long as the stories are contained and you don't have to read 12 other books to understand another books plot, then it's okay. But If they keep doing these multiple Book crossovers, then what's the point?

The Big Two's business decisions may be the source of many problems throughout the industry, but that's no reason to criticize anyone who reads such comics. I mean, I read "Final Crisis" (Because I like the Genre of Superhero Comics) and was completely lost. But just because I read it, doesn't mean I ate it up without question... that I accepted it as "a good story".

You don't just read Good Stories when you're a reader, you read Crap ones too. (It's what makes the good ones stand out after all.)

I never bought comics as a kid because I couldn't afford them.

However, I always read them in the grocery stores if I had a free moment and occasionally my mom would let me get one. I think I still have them, they're random 90's, overproduced-type stuff, but they're around.

Now you have to go to a comic shop or Big Box Bookseller to even see a comic in person, much less buy one.

In college, I found several like minded "freaks" ... you know the kind... The kind of people you wouldn't want to sit next to on the bus. The kind of People who have become Engineers & Mathematicians, Historians & Psychologists, Teachers & Philosophers. Some church-going and some not. People who didn't judge me based on a nothing more than a misguided stereotype and instead actually took the time to get to know me for who I was. People who had read AND EVEN bought comics themselves as kids, and still enjoyed them. People.

We didn't all get along, but I did make some great friends and even started getting back into reading comics as a result and I found that there's a lot out there in the comic world, just like in life.

It's not all thought-provoking and imagination-inspiring, but it's not all mindless-drivel and ego-stroking either. Highs and lows are par for the course.

No regrets thus far.
 
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I stopped reading comics years ago. . . it was just too hard to find a store that sold them . . . the guys who ran it were creepy and thought I was creepy . . . . and my favorite writers are all dead or moved to another business. Modern Superhero comics just make me mad that they're pooping on my memories of how goo they used to be.
 
And this is very, very bad. Superheroes are very, very bad. They're like 50 year old hookers chainsmoking on the corner: used up, their best days behind them, appealing only to the most debased, most awful people. The fanbase for superhero comics in this day and age tends to be a devolved group clinging to degrading psychosexual power fantasies that take them away from their daily powerlessness. White males on the sidelines of society who are attached to juvenile escapades and repetitive, stunted storytelling. I'm beginning to look at adults who are deeply immersed in superheroes the way I would look at a grown man eating baby food for lunch. Except that I would say the baby food guy is at least getting some nourishment.

:guffaw:

I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but that whole passage is just hilarious to read. :lol:

Hey, I like superhero TPBs. I wasn't always a comic-book reader, but as a sci-fi geek, I've always been fascinated with the superhero genre (being Asian, I don't even fit the stereotype). Yeah, I know what you guys mean about Teen Titans. I recommend reading/picking up Identity Crisis, Teen Titans TPB Volume 4, the whole Infinite Crisis series, and 52, Volumes 1 - 4, if you want to better understand TT: One Year Later. :borg:
 
There would be a certain poetic justice to super hero comics ending in a depression given that super hero comics really got their start coming out of the depression of the 1930's. Personally, what I think will happen is that we'll see comics switch format; it will take a few years yet, but the digital age will be born out of this economic peril.
 
I can accept that superhero comic books don't appeal to me, a 30 year old guy. But what bothers me is that 13 year old kids won't want to read them the way I did.

The current state of Dc and Marvel is going to survive for a while. Continuing to survive on the older readers. With new writers and artists coming from those same people.

But what is going to happen in the long term? 30 to 40 years from now when those people are gone. Comics will go digital but mostly will continue to be seen by the existing readership. The convoluted continuity and even the very format of comics scares of civilians. Even those who like the characters from other media. Why read a digital Batman comic with all that baggage when you could watch a Batman cartoon or movie on the same device???

Where is the next generation of comic book creators going to come from? People capable of broadening the audience and taking advantage of the new digital distribution methods. If the current style of storytelling is maintained transitioning to Digital is just going to be keeping the genre on life support.
 
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I have wanted to get into comics for a long time, but it's so frickin hard! I even went the route of buying the first volume of the "Essential X-Men" books, but as much as I hate to say it, they seemed rather dated and juvenile. I even managed to get up to the Pheonix Saga, but I still had a hard time getting through it (I liked it better on the X-Men cartoon).

These days there are so many comics with such a soap opera-like history that it's almost impossible to start anywhere. New readers are going to become harder and harder to come by if most of the current titles don't end to be replaced by new series.
 
Wow. What a long op-ed piece about a media that only a few people even buy. Mr. Faraci seems to want to get across how much more mature he is than superhero fans.
 
A long piece and it misses the point.

My 5 year old loves his Spider-man underwear and his Superman action figure. Can I buy him a comic? No way, not because the stories are "too adult" (although that can be a problem some times) but because they cost too much, the stories don't make sense unless you buy 10 crossovers and he'd never follow it. I'd never follow it..

I bought a couple of juvenile digest sized Justice League books that were based off the cartoon show and he loves them, my 12 year old loves them, I love them. But you can't buy stuff like that every week. There's about 6 of them at the shop from a couple years ago. These things should be out every week and sitting at the checkout of every grocery store on the continent beside the Archie comics. Why not?

There's no such thing as a cheap stand alone story that I can read to my 5 year old or buy for my 12 year old or flip through myself when I feel like it.

Serial arcs and crossovers are fine, but there has to be something to suck you in in the first place, and I'm not going to buy into a story at chapter 9. Neither are my kids, and they won't be getting into regular comics they way I did.

As an adult I can somehow still enjoy the stories from the 60's. They weren't crap because they didn't cross over 6 different titles in a 24 chapter arc for months. All the crossovers don't improve the storytelling, they are purely commercial, and over commercialization is what keeps the books limited to a tiny niche of readership.

Nothing wrong with having a particular title devoted to a major arc that has 16 different major characters guesting. Just let the rest of the titles run on their own, then if events or personalities or costumes or powers need to be updated every couple of years, do a minor reboot of individual titles. Readers won't be pissed, they'll be curious and buy the trade to see what happpened. But keep the main titles cheap and simple and you'll get tens of thousands of people buying in.
 
I agree that the monthly magazine will be gone in a decade, but I think comic books are just going to go completely trade paperback at that point. The TPB business has been booming for years and every bookstore has entire bookcases of TPBs now. I mean really, $4 for a comic book? Please.
 
Personally, what I think will happen is that we'll see comics switch format; it will take a few years yet, but the digital age will be born out of this economic peril.

I hope not. I think part of the appeal of comics (at least for me) is the format. Just like books, I prefer to have a hard copy.

I have wanted to get into comics for a long time, but it's so frickin hard! I even went the route of buying the first volume of the "Essential X-Men" books, but as much as I hate to say it, they seemed rather dated and juvenile. I even managed to get up to the Pheonix Saga, but I still had a hard time getting through it (I liked it better on the X-Men cartoon).

These days there are so many comics with such a soap opera-like history that it's almost impossible to start anywhere. New readers are going to become harder and harder to come by if most of the current titles don't end to be replaced by new series.

I started reading comics in the early 80s and found it very easy to jump into the stories and understand what was going on back then. The stories were fun and were largely self contained with only the occasional guest appearance of another super-hero.

By the mid to late 90s crap like Maximum Clonage was being pumped out and I just got fed up with it and stopped buying comics altogether.

With all the crappy baggage of multi-title stories that have piled up over the years it's no wonder it's hard to draw in new readers.
 
As a hardcore collector for the last 30 years, I pull 30 some titles a month from the big two and enjoy them as much now as I did when I was just a small kid.
The pricing is definately a problem right now and I have been starting to cut back. That pricing is also what keeps new younger readers out of the comic shops. Buy 10 comics and that $30, or spend it on a video game you can play with your firends. The choice is easy and the comics lose out.
To complain about the stories being the same is utter nonsense. Of course they are the same. There are only so many stories to be told. Novels and movies are also like this. How many cop buddy pictures are there, or romantic comedies. All the same story just presented differently. Comics are the same. Superman fights Luthor and gee Superman wins what a surprise. We all know how they are going to end its simply a matter of presentation. No major charecters are going to die for long, there is to much money wrapped up in the names. This wouldnt change no matter what kind of stories you tell. Western? Well the good guy with the white hat wins. War? The Nazi's will lose. Crime? Bad guys go to jail.
A big problem with comics today is that the stories are all written to fill the trades that come out later. So everything seems to be a six issue story arc. Thats boring and stupid. Some stories(Civil War, Final Crisis) could have been told in fewer issues and been stronger stories.
Another problem is the continued attempt to bring non comic writers into the comic world. Sure they may have some great ideas but they have no idea how to write for the comic book medium. Its not a novel or a screenplay. Its a comic book where ideas must be presented both visually and through the written word. Most writers just dont get that and you can tell when you read the stories they write.
Do I see the end of comic books in the current format? Yes I do. Much as I love them I know they will not last forever. Its inevitable that they will be replaced by something else. How long that will take is anybodys guess.
 
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