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The Dating Advice and Support Thread

Be cocky. Be funny.

I rarely ever compliment girls. Every other guy in the club is doing the same shit. Girls like assholes. So I'm a bit of an asshole. The same girls that say I'm "sooo mean" are the same girls that are buying me dinner and drinks.

I know this always sounds like some sort of "goes without saying" non-advice, but in my experience you should never underestimate the impact simple things like dressing well and generally looking out for yourself (even on a merely superficial appearance level) have on your self-esteem and how others perceive you.

On a less superficial level, you need to feel good about what you're doing, i.e. your job/your academic studies/whatever, your hobbies, your social life.

Take your time to see whether or not you're content with where you are, identify areas where you would like to change things and how. I realize this is easier said then done. Sometimes it will require outside help, e.g. coaching, but sometimes even a word of advice from someone you trust might be enough to inspire you.

Yes, the superficial stuff is very important. And as you might imagine, feeling good about yourself is part of being cocky. But you don't need to wear an Armani suit, be the CEO of some big company, and have a million friends to party with. As long as you got a job that can pay the bills, some nice clothes and a good circle of friends to keep you busy, the rest is just game. Of course, if you can afford the Armani suit, then it does make the game easier.

And that said that the Time Tunnel was cancelled - that post was straight from 1987.
 
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I think there's a grain of truth in the old "asshole" theory of dating in that you can easily be TOO NICE. You don't want to come off as some creepy stalker.

Saying that women like assholes is taking it too far in the other direction though.

I think the asshole thing works for some people because it is playing against type. If you look nice but act mean, it's funny because it's a juxtaposition. If you look mean and act mean, well you'll probably end up arrested.
 
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Sigh.

I really like this chick at work, she funny and sweet and everything. She's on Facebook right now and in my mind I just want to ask her out through Facebook but I suspect that'd be very creepy and lame.

I have no balls. That's my problem.
 
Sigh.

I really like this chick at work, she funny and sweet and everything. She's on Facebook right now and in my mind I just want to ask her out through Facebook but I suspect that'd be very creepy and lame.

I have no balls. That's my problem.

I have a crush on like 7 girls at my workplace. :shifty: I would never act on it though because word would get around way too easily. Also I can't imagine I make a very good impression at work, the people on the phone drive me up the wall. Not my best side, you might say.

I know what you mean about carrying a torch though. I'm great at that.
 
Sigh.

I really like this chick at work, she funny and sweet and everything. She's on Facebook right now and in my mind I just want to ask her out through Facebook but I suspect that'd be very creepy and lame.

I have no balls. That's my problem.

Maybe if you think about her as a 'woman' and not a 'chick' that might be a start?

If not, trying friending her on facebook by starting your message "I think you are a really interesting chick and..." it will not be creepy or lame in the slightest.

Edit: that sounds harsher than I intended so I'll put in a :-)
 
Sigh.

I really like this chick at work, she funny and sweet and everything. She's on Facebook right now and in my mind I just want to ask her out through Facebook but I suspect that'd be very creepy and lame.

Find an opportunity to talk to her at work.

I have no balls. That's my problem.

No thats just an excuse, its really very simple, just go in there without thinking about how much you want to do her/be with her, etc.
 
Be cocky. Be funny.

I rarely ever compliment girls. Every other guy in the club is doing the same shit. Girls like assholes. So I'm a bit of an asshole. The same girls that say I'm "sooo mean" are the same girls that are buying me dinner and drinks.

Sounds like a load of bullshit from an internet tough guy with backwards ideas looking to anonymously impress people with his machismo and unverifiable success rate.

So, you gonna buy me dinner and drinks now?
 
Be cocky. Be funny.

I rarely ever compliment girls. Every other guy in the club is doing the same shit. Girls like assholes. So I'm a bit of an asshole. The same girls that say I'm "sooo mean" are the same girls that are buying me dinner and drinks.

Sounds like a load of bullshit from an internet tough guy with backwards ideas looking to anonymously impress people with his machismo and unverifiable success rate.

So, you gonna buy me dinner and drinks now?

Yeah, that does smack of internet tough guy bullshit but it does work for some people, I should add.
 
It "works" for men who seek women they can dominate and control and women who've been in repeated verbally and/or physically abusive relationships before and come to regard that as normal or proper behavior when it isn't.
 
Be cocky. Be funny.

I rarely ever compliment girls. Every other guy in the club is doing the same shit. Girls like assholes. So I'm a bit of an asshole. The same girls that say I'm "sooo mean" are the same girls that are buying me dinner and drinks.

Sounds like a load of bullshit from an internet tough guy with backwards ideas looking to anonymously impress people with his machismo and unverifiable success rate.

So, you gonna buy me dinner and drinks now?

Internet tough guy? you mean like the white boy trying hard to look bad ass in his trekbbs profile pic with dreadlocks and a faggot ass mustache? Who the fuck are you trying to be? fucking poser

Anyway, you guys dont have to believe me. You can think im a virgin for all I care. but if you pull your head out your ass once in a while and look around, maybe you might have heard the old saying "nice guys finish last" or "good girls love bad guys". shit like that. I'm not the first one to come up with this idea. I'm just the first one to mention in this thread. and all I get is a bunch of haters trolling on me. but you can all lick my balls.

To the guys considering using nice compliments to do cold pick up girls at a club, I think your chances are way better if you come off as a bit of an asshole. There is of course a difference between an asshole that make girls laugh and say "ohhh you're soooo mean! hahaha" and an asshole that's just an ass (like Locutus here)

There's actually a term for, I guess you could say, the "proper" way of being an asshole. It's called negging. You can google it. You're gonna get a lot of ignorant people like Locutus telling you it doesnt work but I would suggest you read up on it and give it a shot before you knock it.

I'm gonna get banned for the stuff I said to that fag Locutus :lol:, so I'll just say good luck to you guys with whatever method you choose to try. peace!
 
but if you pull your head out your ass once in a while and look around, maybe you might have heard the old saying "nice guys finish last" or "good girls love bad guys". shit like that.

I'm a girl, I like nice guys. So do all other girls I know.
To the guys considering using nice compliments to do cold pick up girls at a club, I think your chances are way better if you come off as a bit of an asshole.

No.

Well, maybe with stupid girls with issues but then it's nothing to brag about, right?

Anyway, doubt I'll be able to read your reply.
 
Be cocky. Be funny.

I rarely ever compliment girls. Every other guy in the club is doing the same shit. Girls like assholes. So I'm a bit of an asshole. The same girls that say I'm "sooo mean" are the same girls that are buying me dinner and drinks.

Sounds like a load of bullshit from an internet tough guy with backwards ideas looking to anonymously impress people with his machismo and unverifiable success rate.

So, you gonna buy me dinner and drinks now?

Internet tough guy? you mean like the white boy trying hard to look bad ass in his trekbbs profile pic with dreadlocks and a faggot ass mustache? Who the fuck are you trying to be? fucking poser

Anyway, you guys dont have to believe me. You can think im a virgin for all I care. but if you pull your head out your ass once in a while and look around, maybe you might have heard the old saying "nice guys finish last" or "good girls love bad guys". shit like that. I'm not the first one to come up with this idea. I'm just the first one to mention in this thread. and all I get is a bunch of haters trolling on me. but you can all lick my balls.

To the guys considering using nice compliments to do cold pick up girls at a club, I think your chances are way better if you come off as a bit of an asshole. There is of course a difference between an asshole that make girls laugh and say "ohhh you're soooo mean! hahaha" and an asshole that's just an ass (like Locutus here)

There's actually a term for, I guess you could say, the "proper" way of being an asshole. It's called negging. You can google it. You're gonna get a lot of ignorant people like Locutus telling you it doesnt work but I would suggest you read up on it and give it a shot before you knock it.

I'm gonna get banned for the stuff I said to that fag Locutus :lol:, so I'll just say good luck to you guys with whatever method you choose to try. peace!

Wait, so does this mean our date didn't go well? But I thought you said people liked it when you treat them like shit? I'm so confused.
 
I suppose theres such a thing as being "too nice". Like many men, I grew up being told that "nice guys finish last" and all that crap. I've never been one of those overly nice men so I've not worried about it but I can see the point some guys are trying to make.

A lot of men who've not spent much time around women find it hard to relate to them. They don't go about treating women like human beings, rather they put them on a pedestal and hope that they don't put a foot wrong. In reality, this is the complete wrong thing to do, from what i've seen "putting women on a pedestal" won't attract 90% of women, they want to feel like an equal.

So the best bet is to act as you would around men when you are around women, but be mindful of certain things, such as language and guy talk.

EDIT: Bloody hell Robert DeSoto, there was no need for that Locutus just cracked a little joke, likely because your post came off as satirical in nature. There was no need to ridicule his physical appearance or personality for absolutely no reason.
 
^ That's not me in my profile. It's the character of Ron Swanson from the show Parks & Recreation after having drunken hate sex with his ex-wife and landing in jail. :lol:

It "works" for men who seek women they can dominate and control and women who've been in repeated verbally and/or physically abusive relationships before and come to regard that as normal or proper behavior when it isn't.

Glad to see I was WAY OFF THE MARK about Robert playing up the machismo (now with free homophobia!) and being abusive though. :lol:
 
Some of the most common things mentioned re: datiing are 'be yourself' and 'nice guys finish last'., 'be commfortable about how you look' etc...

At times you can start to feel cynical about ll that advice and dating in general. You try following all that advice and you still end up nowhere. Some find it easier to devopl a romantic relationship with the other gender more easy than others. That isn't to say the rest can't talk to the opposite gender they just have a harder time moving from platonic to romantic.

Being rejected or ignored all the time can start to wear you down after a while, to almost the point of why even bother. this'll be rejection/ignored number x. Rationally you'll think this'll be the one but the heart says why do you put yourself through this.

Women can be just as bad at men at times in what there expectactions are. You see these dating sites, won't date men under 5' 10". It's the same as a man putting on won't date women with a C cup or under breast size.

Ah well that's enough doom and gloom, tomorrow is a new day and who knows who you'll meet.
 
I originally held off posting in this thread because I generally try to avoid giving dating advice. Holdfast's Choose Your Own Adventure post just bumped it up so many notches that I can't resist.

Keep in mind that I haven't been in the singles scene for about six years...but also keep in mind that I was apparently successful enough that I haven't been in the singles scene for six years.

As far as the asshole thing goes, I've found the exact opposite is true. The bar is so incredibly low for single guys in their 20s and early 30s that you don't even have to be particularly nice to be a nice guy. I found that if I approached a woman and treated her with A) respect B) common decency C) a clear but not creepy level of interest, things went pretty well.

Basically, if you're not going to cheat on, borrow/steal money from, play video games instead of hanging out with a woman that you're dating, you're way near the top of the bell curve already.

In fact, this actually worked against me a few times. Imagine that you meet someone and go out on a date or two, pick up the check, show exclusive interest (i.e., not check out the waitress), and not do any of the bad things I mentioned above. The other party might assume that, since you're being so overwhelmingly chivalrous, you must be madly in love, even though you aren't really looking for anything serious.

There are so, so many intelligent, fun, attractive single women out there...if you're having a hard time meeting them in person, maybe the Internet is the way to go.
 
With respect to what Shatnertage just said...

Theres a lot of men out there who don't know how to show interest without coming across as "creepy". Some men feel its out of place for them to display overt interest because of what they look like and the unknown preferences of the woman they are interested in.
 
^ That's not me in my profile. It's the character of Ron Swanson from the show Parks & Recreation after having drunken hate sex with his ex-wife and landing in jail. :lol:

It "works" for men who seek women they can dominate and control and women who've been in repeated verbally and/or physically abusive relationships before and come to regard that as normal or proper behavior when it isn't.

Glad to see I was WAY OFF THE MARK about Robert playing up the machismo (now with free homophobia!) and being abusive though. :lol:

I can't believe someone thought that was you. :lol:

Sorry man, but there really is only one Ron Fucking Swanson. ;)
 
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