New trailer.
The Creator new sci-fi film
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New trailer.
Then what is fiction for? Reassurance? Propaganda?
Don't tell me what stories we "shouldn't be" telling.
Propaganda is what it’s doing right now: Those
So sorry, but I should have said: We absolutely should not be telling ourselves this. We’ve done it too many times already about peoples that actually exist.
Dan Murrell has a GLOWING review of The Creator, making it sound like an absolute must-see movie:
Looks good enough to check out.
As was mentioned earlier, it’s nice to have a not-sequel to view.
Love the Trailer Score, of course, because I am old enough to remember (most times!
) plus, Allison Janney, Yeah, because she reigned supreme in “West Wing”.
As was mentioned earlier, it’s nice to have a not-sequel to view.
Love the Trailer Score, of course, because I am old enough to remember (most times!
) plus, Allison Janney, Yeah, because she reigned supreme in “West Wing”.
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Okay that was like watching a modern take on Asimov combined with a documentary on the War on Terror. I thought it was incredibly nuanced, showing the strengths and weaknesses of AI, but above all that it's how we program/use it that matters most.
Again, I don't want to spoil, but those worried about stirring up mass hysteria need not fret. This is a very careful deconstruction of how humanity reacts and how we often fail to take a step back and look deeper into things, how we let emotion and anger take over. While I certainly don't correlate the deliberate vile attacks of 9/11 with the incident spurring the events of this film, I do think there's a deliberate mirror being held up.
The film was a little dark (visually, hard to see) in places but that seems common these days. I did like the set design otherwise, and the effects were mostly cool.
It seems to be well set up for a sequel a few years down the line if they decide to go that route, but I kind of hope they don't; it's left open what the aftermath will be for a reason, and I would prefer to imagine the possibilities be they good or bad.
Again, I don't want to spoil, but those worried about stirring up mass hysteria need not fret. This is a very careful deconstruction of how humanity reacts and how we often fail to take a step back and look deeper into things, how we let emotion and anger take over. While I certainly don't correlate the deliberate vile attacks of 9/11 with the incident spurring the events of this film, I do think there's a deliberate mirror being held up.
The film was a little dark (visually, hard to see) in places but that seems common these days. I did like the set design otherwise, and the effects were mostly cool.
It seems to be well set up for a sequel a few years down the line if they decide to go that route, but I kind of hope they don't; it's left open what the aftermath will be for a reason, and I would prefer to imagine the possibilities be they good or bad.
Every single trailer and bit of promotional material has already said the kid is the superweapon. Unless there's some kind of twist and he's not the superweapon.
I was moderately excited for this movie, but ended up disliking it quite profusely.
Rest under spoiler tag.
Rest under spoiler tag.
I can't see how this is being called a nuanced discussion on the nature of AI ... when there was literally nothing in it pertaining to the nature of AI. AI were essentially a stand-in for an ethnic group, which is something I'm absolutely fine with when dealing with media from the 1960s, but doesn't live up to my expectations for media created in an era where AI is actually starting to be somewhat ... unnerving. There was the question of their sentience that was essentially treated as a binary, but no exploration of the nature of AI in this universe.
Like. Also. Were told that AI were living integrated into human society in the West as well, and then were banned after LA got nuked. How did that look? On a societal level? There was an actual interesting story to be told there, but all we got was a mock-CNN report in the background about peace protests at one point, and the US Army presented as ultimate jarheads in a way that made me feel like the makers were begging me to see the Vietnam allegory already. Yawn.
At the end of the day, it kinda felt like a movie that was desperately trying to be District 9, but ... was not.
That all being said: effects, score, art design, and many of the performances were fantastic.
Like. Also. Were told that AI were living integrated into human society in the West as well, and then were banned after LA got nuked. How did that look? On a societal level? There was an actual interesting story to be told there, but all we got was a mock-CNN report in the background about peace protests at one point, and the US Army presented as ultimate jarheads in a way that made me feel like the makers were begging me to see the Vietnam allegory already. Yawn.
At the end of the day, it kinda felt like a movie that was desperately trying to be District 9, but ... was not.
That all being said: effects, score, art design, and many of the performances were fantastic.
Okay, saw this today and thought it was really, really good. It was a story that might have been lifted right from the pages of Heavy Metal Magazine, back when it was good.
At different times, I got the following 'vibes' from this movie:
Platoon
Apocalypse Now
Blade Runner
Oblivion
Minority Report
Cloud Atlas
District 9
Elysium
Rogue One
None of those vibes were in a negative way. People who say the movie has no plot simply weren't watching. The visuals were beautiful, and the VFX fucking astounding. Hear me now and believe me later: this movie definitely rates a viewing on the big screen, and I hardly say that about any movie anymore.
There was a 'hate America' vibe that definitely crept in at points here, sort of like in Avatar, but the callbacks to Vietnam were so strong for me that I had no choice but to see the world bully that is our military-industrial complex through the eyes of people getting drone-striked in far-off lands. I didn't like that aspect of it, but it wasn't necessarily unfair. There were a couple scenes with western troops acting like war criminals that were OTT.
The robotic weapons and tech were on point with what I'd expect from about 50 years in the future, except maybe for NOMAD itself. In another callback to an earlier era, the jet-powered VTOL troop ships actually have helicopter sound FX, but only twice and then you never hear that again.
I actually got a tiny bit leaky at one point, which is damn-near ridiculous for me watching a sci-fi movie. The performances were top notch all around. I've liked Gemma Chan since she played Mia in 'Humans', and this was definitely a related genre although she wasn't an AI herself this time. John David Washington was fantastic and Ken Watanabe was superlative as always.
Highly recommend. I'll give it an 8.5/10.
At different times, I got the following 'vibes' from this movie:
Platoon
Apocalypse Now
Blade Runner
Oblivion
Minority Report
Cloud Atlas
District 9
Elysium
Rogue One
None of those vibes were in a negative way. People who say the movie has no plot simply weren't watching. The visuals were beautiful, and the VFX fucking astounding. Hear me now and believe me later: this movie definitely rates a viewing on the big screen, and I hardly say that about any movie anymore.
There was a 'hate America' vibe that definitely crept in at points here, sort of like in Avatar, but the callbacks to Vietnam were so strong for me that I had no choice but to see the world bully that is our military-industrial complex through the eyes of people getting drone-striked in far-off lands. I didn't like that aspect of it, but it wasn't necessarily unfair. There were a couple scenes with western troops acting like war criminals that were OTT.
The robotic weapons and tech were on point with what I'd expect from about 50 years in the future, except maybe for NOMAD itself. In another callback to an earlier era, the jet-powered VTOL troop ships actually have helicopter sound FX, but only twice and then you never hear that again.
I actually got a tiny bit leaky at one point, which is damn-near ridiculous for me watching a sci-fi movie. The performances were top notch all around. I've liked Gemma Chan since she played Mia in 'Humans', and this was definitely a related genre although she wasn't an AI herself this time. John David Washington was fantastic and Ken Watanabe was superlative as always.
Highly recommend. I'll give it an 8.5/10.
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Saw it today.
I didn't love it. Was pretty lukewarm on it. There was enough cool sci-fi stuff sprinkled through out the movie to keep me entertained, but I didn't really like the characters or the story.
My GF really liked it though. Some people seem to really love this movie. I don't get it.
I didn't love it. Was pretty lukewarm on it. There was enough cool sci-fi stuff sprinkled through out the movie to keep me entertained, but I didn't really like the characters or the story.
My GF really liked it though. Some people seem to really love this movie. I don't get it.
Still haven't decided how quickly I want to see this. To be honest I've never been the biggest fan of Edwards. Monsters is cool for what he achieved on such a small budget but I never felt the love story, which is odd given the actors were (then at least) in a relationship. Godzilla I found really drab and lifeless aside from the few moments the titular character was on screen, and while Rogue One has grown on me with time, it's hard to know how much of what I like is Edwards and how much might be Gilroy.
That said we need more original sci-fi and I have way more interest in this than Zack Snyder's Netflix Star Wars
That said we need more original sci-fi and I have way more interest in this than Zack Snyder's Netflix Star Wars
I borrowed this movie from the library, and though I was hoping to like it, I'm afraid I found it a slog to get through and I've decided to give up on it about halfway through, something I rarely do with a movie. It looks good and all, but the writing is a disappointingly shallow and heavy-handed mass of hackneyed cliches, with no nuance in the conflict. One side is cartoonishly evil and the other is cartoonishly pure and noble, which makes it very uninteresting for me. The worldbuilding is superficial and doesn't hold together well; it's style over substance. It's also more of a war movie than I expected, and that doesn't appeal to me. I only stuck with it as long as I did because I wanted to see Gemma Chan, but when I read in Wikipedia's plot summary that her role was evidently fairly small in the rest of the film, I decided it wasn't worth continuing.
Where it lost me was the scene with the running bombs. That just crossed over into farce. It's a ridiculously inefficient and overdesigned way to deliver a bomb. It seemed like they were trying to evoke Dark Star's sentient-bomb sequence, and maybe underline the cruelty of a society that builds intelligent suicide bombs, or something, but it was just there, with nothing actually being done with the idea. If they were going for some kind of pathos, all they evoked in me was scornful laughter.
Where it lost me was the scene with the running bombs. That just crossed over into farce. It's a ridiculously inefficient and overdesigned way to deliver a bomb. It seemed like they were trying to evoke Dark Star's sentient-bomb sequence, and maybe underline the cruelty of a society that builds intelligent suicide bombs, or something, but it was just there, with nothing actually being done with the idea. If they were going for some kind of pathos, all they evoked in me was scornful laughter.
