Spoilers The Clone Wars - Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS]

[kitik]

They also referenced one of the Ahsoka Forces of Destiny shorts.

Oh wow, suffice it to say most of those episodes were pretty much in one ear and out the other. Never would have thought there might be a connection without being told.

The episode in question is season 1 episode 4, The Padawan Path.

I have to wonder if that was made back when Season 7 seemed like it wouldn't happen, or if they were always intended to be connected across shows like that.

Spoiler: watch the FoD ep on youtube embedded

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[Reverend]

ETA: Kind of a weird, inconsequential little detail that jumped out at me for some reason; Ahsoka's nails are now black (or just very dark.) I didn't recall that was the case previously so I went back and check the two previous versions of her model and indeed, the nails were coloured more or less like you'd expect. However when I looked at the Rebels model, sure enough the nails were dark.
It seemed to me strange even for a former Jedi to bother with something so superficial, so I had a look at Shaak-Ti as well; to my surprise she also had dark/black-ish nails!

So TL/DR: Togruta nails turn dark as they mature.

I have to wonder if that was made back when Season 7 seemed like it wouldn't happen, or if they were always intended to be connected across shows like that.

Most likely the former. It wouldn't be the first time they'd recycled or repurposed material developed for unfinished episodes of TCW.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Clone Wars centric FoD shorts where at least partly responsible for TCW being brought out of mothballs.

 

[kitik]

There can be multiple reasons that something happens, but the primary above all others reason that Clone Wars came back has to be Disney+. Disney needed content for their new service. Clone Wars was not a new show that needed to be developed, it had a bunch of episodes that were pretty much ready to go into production right away.

We've already seen a number of shows that were planned for D+ end up moving elsewhere, or just simply ended up cancelled and won't happen at all. (Like that Book of Enchantment series.)

Clone Wars essentially had an entire season of episodes that were already pre-approved. And they knew it would generate positive buzz among all the fans. Especially since a lot of Clone Wars content has been seeping into live action more and more (like in Solo and Mandalorian).

 

[Reverend]

I didn't say it was the only factor, just that it might have helped show Disney that there's still an audience for an almost decade old cartoon that they cancelled on day 1 of the acquisition.

Another factor was probably Dave Filloni. Clearly they've been grooming him for a larger creative role in the company and partnering him up with Favreau for 'The Mandalorian' was clearly Disney & LF seeing how he copes with live action. With that in mind and knowing that the cancellation of TCW has always been a bot of a sore spot, it seems likely that keeping him happy by letting him finish his story could have also played into the decision....especially if there's a pitch for a live action Ahsoka project one the table.

I suspect however that the REAL deciding factor was the consistent merchandise sales for anything Clone Wars related and Ahsoka merch in particular.

 

[fireproof78]

Oh wow, suffice it to say most of those episodes were pretty much in one ear and out the other. Never would have thought there might be a connection without being told.

The episode in question is season 1 episode 4, The Padawan Path.

I have to wonder if that was made back when Season 7 seemed like it wouldn't happen, or if they were always intended to be connected across shows like that.

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One of my personal favorites.

 

[Set Harth]

How did I know they were going to ignore Solo? As soon as I heard "Kessel" I turned it off for a while because I had a bad feeling.

You don't just fly to or from Kessel like any other planet.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

How did I know they were going to ignore Solo?

What did they ignore? we so them go through the space cloud thing when they got there.

 

[JD]

Yeah, it was exactly the same as what we saw in Solo.
I enjoyed this one a lot, the sisters are both interesting characters, and as a huge fan of Solo, I got a big kick out of the visit to Kessel.

 

[Set Harth]

What did they ignore? we so them go through the space cloud thing when they got there.

You have to make multiple jumps to get to Kessel. You don't just go right to the planet.

 

[Reverend]

There are also things called "doors", "elevators" and "stairs" so clearly when a shot in a movie or TV show cuts between a character pulling up outside a building straight to them walking into an apartment on the 20th floor, obviously that person just instantly teleported from one point to another without traversing the intervening distance, not opening a single door or setting foot in an elevator. Also, editing isn't a thing!

 

[kitik]

I liked Anakin's brief appearance in this episode.

Decent cliffhanger too.

For a second, I thought those criminals at the end were Kallerans (as seen in the Kanan comic book), but not quite. Close, but no cigar.

 

[Set Harth]

Also, editing isn't a thing!

I wasn't sure until I watched it again, but yeah, it appears the editing excuse works here.

(But that doesn't always work. A certain Star Trek movie comes to mind...)

 

[Tuskin38]

So the Cockpit of the Silver Angel is the Ghost's Cockpit.

Or in actuality, the Ghost's cockpit was the Silver Angel's. According to the Episode guide the Cockpit was designed years ago for this Clone Wars arc first, Rebels designers liked the design and didn't want to go to waste.
https://www.starwars.com/series/clone-wars/deal-no-deal-episode-guide

 

[Reverend]

The spice mine was also reused in the premier of Rebels. I also note that the concept art refers to the ship as "The Black Ace". Presumably this what Nyx called it in the original version of this arc and was changed either because it didn't suit Trace's personality and/or because of 'Resistance' used that name already.

One day, I'd be curious to see an outline or just a general sense of what these episodes originally looked like, plot-wise. I imagine a lot of the broad strokes are the same, but the majority of the dialogue and the substantive themes must have been quite different. I wonder if Raffa was created from whole cloth, or if there was a third party in the original version too.

 

[Tuskin38]

Oh shit, Ursa Wren Bo Katan

 

[Stephen!]

And some continuity references back to Ziro's escape from prison.

 

[Reverend]

We didn't actually see the events of Ziro's escape described in this episode, did we? If memory serves we just see Bane fly off with Ziro in a speeder and the next episode he's already back with the Hutts. Was their a comic or something that depicted this, or a deleted scene perhaps? I just wonder because the description seemed rather specific.

And yeah, it's been known for a while that Ursa Wren was in Death Watch and that she was one of Bo Katan's Nite Owls always seemed likely, but it was neat to see her all the same. Fun fact: I'm pretty sure Sabine would be alive at this point since we're less than a year out from "Empire Day" and IIRC she was at least two years older than Ezra.
Given that Ursa is running around in exile with Bo Katan, one assumes that means Sabine is with her father on Krownest, or elsewhere in hiding from Maul's loyalists.

 

[Stephen!]

I liked Anakin's brief appearance in this episode.

He should probably be in the outer rim at this point, unless these episodes are intended to take place before the "Bad Batch" arc.

 

[Reverend]

He should probably be in the outer rim at this point, unless these episodes are intended to take place before the "Bad Batch" arc.

These episodes do indeed take place before the Bad Batch episodes, not just because he's on Coruscant, but because this is probably only a matter of weeks (maybe a few months) after Ahsoka's expulsion.

If I had to guess I'd say this is right after 'Sacrifice' and he's on his way out to the Outer Rim Sieges. His involvement in season 6 was fairly light as it only has him going from Ringo Vinda to Coruscant to hunt down Fives, then helping Yoda escape to go on his spirit journey. The Clovis arc stuff could be pushed back to season 5 since IIRC that's when it was originally intended to air, so it need not be a factor...and it'd be weird if THAT was his last interaction with Padme before they part.

But then there's also his involvement the the two 'Dark Disciple' arcs come novel, which is limited but still has him at the temple IIRC. He doesn't show up in 'Son of Dathomir', however those events still take place *after* the 'Fives/Order 66' arc since it features the death of Master Tiplee.
One assumes the events of the 'Utapau Arc' are still in canon, if so then that needs to take place in season 6, preferably before any other mission he has with Obi Wan since it'd be odd for "the Ahsoka talk" to happen any later.

Though with Bo Katan showing up now it does present an argument for Ahsoka's banishment happening less than a year prior to RotS which had been previously stated (and would line up with Ziro's escape being "a couple years back".) We'll have to see how those threads connect in the next two episodes, but unless there's an implied time gap (where the "beneath the temple" arc was intended to go) it implies Ahsoka spends the better part of a year with Bo Katan, which while not impossible doesn't feel quite right.
However Padme's pregnancy and Anakin's 6-8 months out on the outer rim remains as the limiting factor.

 

[Booji]

I'm sure we'll get an updated episode order after they all air from Pablo.