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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

50 Years Ago This Week


August 3
  • A0620-00, the first x-ray nova to also be visible on an optical telescope (designated V616 Mon), was seen and detected to flare. After eight months, the flare diminished, and the object is considered likely to be a black hole that was created around the time of the 10th century BCE, based on its distance from earth of an estimated 3,000 light years.
  • The Louisiana Superdome opened in New Orleans.

August 4
  • Members of the Japanese Red Army terrorist group fought their way into the American consulate in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, then took 52 hostages, only five of whom were American. The group demanded the release of 7 jailed Red Army members. Five of the JRA prisoners accepted the offer of safe passage and were flown to Libya.

August 5
  • U.S. President Ford signed into law a U.S. Senate resolution posthumously restoring the American citizenship of Confederate Army General Robert E. Lee. Lee had died in 1870, but had signed an oath of allegiance in 1865 as part of being granted amnesty.

August 6
  • One day before it was to expire, the U.S. Voting Rights Act of 1965 was extended for another ten years. The Act of 1975 had passed the U.S. House of Representatives 341-70 on June 4, 1975, and the U.S. Senate 77-12 on July 24.

August 7
  • Typhoon Nina produced the heaviest one-day rainfall ever recorded from a Pacific Ocean typhoon, with 97 centimeters (38 inches) at Linzhang County in the Hebei Province. The typhoon itself had killed 12 people up to that point, in Taiwan, but the downpour continued for 26 hours, leading to a dam burst in mainland China the next day.
  • Alger Hiss was sworn back in as an attorney, 23 years after having been disbarred in 1952 for perjury after denying that he had given U.S. State Department documents, nicknamed the "Pumpkin Papers," to Communist spy Whittaker Chambers.

August 8
  • The Banqiao Dam, in China's Henan Province, failed after a freak typhoon, drowning over 26,000 people and leading to famine and disease that killed 145,000 more....The People's Republic of China would not acknowledge the disaster until 30 years later.
  • Singer Hank Williams Jr. was seriously injured in a near-fatal mountain climbing accident at Ajax Peak in Montana, when the ground beneath him gave way, and fell 500 feet down the slope. After two years of reconstructive surgeries, Williams would set about rebuilding his career and become one of the best-selling country music artists in history.

August 9
  • The COS-B satellite, a project of the European Space Research Organisation (ESRO), was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. "It is difficult to overestimate the importance of COS-B in the historical evolution" of ESRO, it would be written later. Operating five years longer than expected, up until April 25, 1982, the European mission provided the first detailed view of gamma ray sources in the Milky Way.
  • Mark Donohue set the world record for speed on a closed race course, averaging 221.120 miles per hour while driving a Porsche 917.30 at the Talladega Motor Speedway in Talladega, Alabama. The record would stand for 11 years, but Donohue would be killed in a racing accident ten days later.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
2. "I'm Not in Love," 10cc
3. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John
4. "One of These Nights," Eagles
5. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
6. "Midnight Blue," Melissa Manchester
7. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
8. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War
9. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
10. "The Rockford Files," Mike Post
11. "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony
12. "Listen to What the Man Said," Wings
13. "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka
14. "Mornin' Beautiful," Tony Orlando & Dawn
15. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
16. "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band
17. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
18. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
19. "Slippery When Wet," Commodores
20. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
21. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
22. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band
23. "Just a Little Bit of You," Michael Jackson
24. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
25. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company
26. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
27. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
28. "The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
29. "The Ballroom Blitz," Sweet
30. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
31. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers
32. "Rockin' Chair," Gwen McCrae

35. "Fame," David Bowie
36. "Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins
37. "Swearin' to God," Frankie Valli

41. "Tush," ZZ Top

44. "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates

46. "Daisy Jane," America
47. "Every Time You Touch Me (I Get High)," Charlie Rich
48. "Saturday Night Special," Lynyrd Skynyrd

53. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters

55. "Feelings," Morris Albert

58. "Dance with Me," Orleans

62. "It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares

64. "Magic," Pilot
65. "Solitaire," Carpenters
66. "Sweet Maxine," The Doobie Brothers

68. "Run Joey Run," David Geddes
69. "Rocky," Austin Roberts

77. "Brazil," The Ritchie Family

82. "Games People Play," The Spinners

85. "Lady Blue," Leon Russell
86. "Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy

89. "SOS," ABBA


91. "Misty," Ray Stevens

95. "Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams

100. "Katmandu," Bob Seger

Leaving the chart:
  • "Hey You," Bachman-Turner Overdrive (12 weeks)
  • "Sweet Emotion," Aerosmith (8 weeks)
  • "Wildfire," Michael Murphey (19 weeks)

New on the chart:

"Katmandu," Bob Seger
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(#43 US)

"Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams
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(#32 US; #22 AC)

"SOS," ABBA
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(#15 US; #19 AC; #6 UK)

"Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy
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(#8 US; #1 AC)

"Games People Play," The Spinners
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(#5 US; #2 AC; #1 R&B; #52 UK)



I didn't think Tusk was all that great-- and I hear there were behind-the-scenes reasons for that (like, nobody wanted to be in the studio with anybody else). I do recall Mirage being a return to form, if not the same greatness, but I don't think I remember Tango in the Night at all.
Main issue with Tango that I recall reading about is that Stevie was busy at the height of her solo career, so they recorded most of the album without her. When she heard the others' tracks, she was dismayed at her lack of presence on them, so they pasted in odd vocal bits by her...and you can pretty much hear that they were added after the fact.

 
A0620-00, the first x-ray nova to also be visible on an optical telescope (designated V616 Mon), was seen and detected to flare. After eight months, the flare diminished, and the object is considered likely to be a black hole that was created around the time of the 10th century BCE, based on its distance from earth of an estimated 3,000 light years.
The refugees should be arriving shortly.

U.S. President Ford signed into law a U.S. Senate resolution posthumously restoring the American citizenship of Confederate Army General Robert E. Lee. Lee had died in 1870, but had signed an oath of allegiance in 1865 as part of being granted amnesty.
So he spent the rest of his life as a non-citizen? I wonder if he got any retirement benefits or whatever.

The Banqiao Dam, in China's Henan Province, failed after a freak typhoon, drowning over 26,000 people and leading to famine and disease that killed 145,000 more....The People's Republic of China would not acknowledge the disaster until 30 years later.
That is one horrifying death toll. Some international aid probably would have reduced it considerably. Idiots.

Operating five years longer than expected, up until April 25, 1982, the European mission provided the first detailed view of gamma ray sources in the Milky Way.
Now we know where all the Big Green Men are.

Mark Donohue set the world record for speed on a closed race course, averaging 221.120 miles per hour
I feel like I'm flirting with death if I go over 55. :rommie:

"Katmandu," Bob Seger
Good one, though not one of my favorites. This is another one that I associate more with the early 80s for some reason.

"Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams
Squiggy is afraid to not like this one.

"SOS," ABBA
Good one. Yes, I do like ABBA. Strong nostalgic value.

"Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy
This is one of her good ones. Strong nostalgic value.

"Games People Play," The Spinners
I really like this one. Very strong nostalgic value. Random brain association: This song always reminds me of the Weird Heroes anthologies published by Byron Preiss around this time.

Main issue with Tango that I recall reading about is that Stevie was busy at the height of her solo career, so they recorded most of the album without her. When she heard the others' tracks, she was dismayed at her lack of presence on them, so they pasted in odd vocal bits by her...and you can pretty much hear that they were added after the fact.
So much drama for one band. :rommie:

Okay, I actually do remember all of these now that I hear them and they're all songs that I liked-- but they're all good songs from a band that used to be great. That's a really cool video for "Everywhere," though.
 
The refugees should be arriving shortly.
Not if they've got FTL...

So he spent the rest of his life as a non-citizen? I wonder if he got any retirement benefits or whatever.
He came from a landed family and served as a college president postwar. Arlington National Cemetery used to be his home via his wife's inheritance.

Now we know where all the Big Green Men are.
Puny human!

Good one, though not one of my favorites. This is another one that I associate more with the early 80s for some reason.
Been a while since the one time we heard from this guy...'68, I think.

Squiggy is afraid to not like this one.
Squig might want to stay out of the water....

Good one. Yes, I do like ABBA. Strong nostalgic value.
I always liked this one's structure, with its dramatic tempo change. The video is pretty underwhelming in conveying it.

This is one of her good ones. Strong nostalgic value.
Another one that's unfamiliar to me.

I really like this one. Very strong nostalgic value. Random brain association: This song always reminds me of the Weird Heroes anthologies published by Byron Preiss around this time.
Pleasant-sounding, bona fide oldies radio classic.

Okay, I actually do remember all of these now that I hear them and they're all songs that I liked-- but they're all good songs from a band that used to be great. That's a really cool video for "Everywhere," though.
That video was an odd one, in that it didn't seem to feature any of the band, even briefly.

Fun fact about "Big Love": All of the panting and moaning is Lindsey.
 
Not if they've got FTL...
Oddly enough, I don't believe in it.

He came from a landed family and served as a college president postwar. Arlington National Cemetery used to be his home via his wife's inheritance.
Fun facts that I did not know.

Puny human!
I wonder how many alien Hulks a typical Gamma Ray Burst creates. That might make for a good Marvel crossover event. :rommie:

Been a while since the one time we heard from this guy...'68, I think.
Okay, that made me look up his Discography. He's been releasing singles since the year I was born. He's 80 years old. I had no idea.

Squig might want to stay out of the water....
I'm pretty sure he's allergic to water. :rommie:

I always liked this one's structure, with its dramatic tempo change. The video is pretty underwhelming in conveying it.
Yeah, that's a pretty bad video.

Another one that's unfamiliar to me.
I have a feeling it didn't last long or have as much staying power as her other good ones.

That video was an odd one, in that it didn't seem to feature any of the band, even briefly.
Such a weird bunch. :rommie:

Fun fact about "Big Love": All of the panting and moaning is Lindsey.
I always get a kick out of watching Mick Fleetwood when they perform. The guy has madness in his eyes. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Reign of Terror"
Originally aired November 18, 1966
MeTV said:
In Paris during the French Revolution, the time travelers agree to aid Marie Antoinette in exchange for safe-conduct passes.

Tony and Doug tumble out separately on a dingy Paris street backlot, the latter being spotted by a wagon patrol of three men in red caps who place him under arrest and put him in the rickety wagon cell. Tony sees Doug in the wagon and is told by a chatty shopkeeper (David Opatoshu) that his friend is headed for execution because of Robespierre's arrest quota. (The more things change...) Tony waylays the wagon and pits his TV Fu against two men with rifles, succeeding with some help from Doug, whose hands are tied behind his back. The two of them hotfoot away while being fired at.

Watching unidentified movie footage of guillotine executions, the TT crew determine that the guys are in early fall of 1793, during the French Revolution (eventually narrowed down to October 8). The shopkeeper takes the guys in, noting that their clothing identifies them as foreigners (while the subject of language remains unaddressed). They learn that Shop (as we'll call him for lack of a name) is sworn to help his patroness, Marie Antoinette, who's still being held in a cell at this point while her prosecutors look for evidence against her. Shop sends them upstairs to change clothes while he answers the door and is arrested by a patrol, who proceed to search the house; but the guys slip out in redcap disguises and hit the streets, hoping to help shopkeeper. Kirk is preoccupied by what he sees and comes up with a desperate plan to send back a family heirloom ring to give TT a radiation fix for picking up Tony and Doug. They find Tony and Doug on Tunnelvision and send the ring back, its clankity landing attracting their attention. Tony recognizes the ring and Doug has him put it on. They watch as the patrol hits another house and are excited to find that the leading general is played by Whit Bissell! Thinking he's their general, they come out of hiding and are arrested. The French general--who's billed as Querque--taking the ring. When he sees an inscription from Axel to MA, he's certain that he has evidence of an adulterous affair to use against the "Austrian wench," Marie Antoinette.

The guys are conveniently placed in the same dungeon cell as Shop, all three facing the guillotine. When Querque visits to question them about the ring, they demand to see the American ambassador (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouverneur_Morris). The general asks them if they know Axel Von Fersen, whose name Doug recognizes as that of a man who was with Washington at Yorktown. Shop insists that the ring must have been given in friendship and flies into a rage, but all three are subdued in the ensuing struggle. Shop makes a deal that if the guys help him get to Marie Antoinette, he can get them out of Paris. The guys proceed to escape by taking out a group of guards whom they lure into the cell, taking their uniforms, and marching the shopkeeper out onto the streets.

Back in 1968, an embarrassed Kirk has been insisting that all of his ancestors came from Scotland, though Swain and Ann play along with him while obviously unconvinced. TT find their fix stuck on General Querque because of the ring, so Kirk demands that Querque be snatched through the Tunnel. Querque is brought in via the usual pyrotechnic show and the UT works on this side as well as Kirk engages in his Obligatory Splitscreen Moment. Kirk tells his lookalike where and when he is and gives him a history spoiler that he'll behead Marie Antoinette without the ring. Kirk supports his claims with Tunnelvision, which picks up as the guys and Shop are paying a call on Marie Antoinette (Monique LeMaire) in her cell. She admits that she was having an affair with Von Fersen, and writes them a letter to help them get out of Paris with the help of Royalists. Grasping for a way to help her that history will permit, the guys come up with the idea of saving her son Charles, the Dauphin, whose fate is unknown. Back in 1968, Querque gets worked up at the sight of MA, so Kirk takes the controls to show him her execution a week later--because Ann's too squeamish to watch a silhouette of the guillotine being used. When Kirk has the ring taken from Querque and put in the Tunnel to send it back to the guys, the French general--motivated to stop the rescue of the Dauphin--lunges into the tunnel and is sent back with the ring. Kirk later learns that some of his ancestors migrated to Scotland from France.

Shop secures a forged pass from Robespierre to get them into the temple where the Dauphin (Pat Michenaud) is being held, Shop posing as an art instructor. Shop persuades Antoine Simon (Louis Mercier) to leave the cell and they make a break for it as Querque arrives to try to stop them. Some fighting ensues on the street that includes Doug's double swinging from a rope. Shop proceeds to smuggle the guys and Dauphin out in the back of a horse-drawn cart. At the ship, the guys show their papers to Lieutenant Napoleon Bonaparte (Joey Tata), whom Tony butters up by telling him the great destiny he sees in the young officer's future...allowing Shop to smuggle the boy aboard as the lieutenant is distracted. Querque arrives, but Bonaparte refuses to stop the ship, insisting that a man and boy couldn't have gotten past him. Tony and Doug let themselves be seen slipping off the ship as a diversion, and as Querque has his men open fire, the guys disappear--their clothes not changing first this time--and the ring separately disappears.



The Invaders
"The Ivy Curtain"
Originally aired March 21, 1967
Frndly said:
David tries to shut down the aliens' indoctrination school with the help of a hard-luck pilot who has sold out to the invaders.

Cargo pilot Barney Cahill (Jack Warden) radios the dispatcher at Cameron Airport (Paul Pepper) to let him know that he won't be able to make it in due to a bad storm that's caused him to lose an engine, and will have to make an emergency landing...against the objections of his four suited passengers, who are led by a character billed as Mr. Nova (Clarke Gordon). When Cahill lands roughly in a field, an object topples over one of the passengers and Cahill is bewildered to find that the flesh of his arm is torn, but there's no blood and no sign of pain. (This is an odd first, as they've consistently tended to disintegrate in situations such as this.)
IMDb said:
Jack Warden's plane was a 1941 Douglas DC3A-S4C4G serial number 4815 registration N128D.

The QM Narrator said:
This is Mr. William Burns [David Sheiner, getting off a bus], educator, business administrator...here on the planet Earth for less than a year. David Vincent [following him out of the bus] first saw Burns at an alien installation in Miami. Last week, he found him again in Omaha, and followed him here to Cameron, New Mexico, a small town whose peaceful streets shroud the presence of...the invaders.
David sees Burns get into a station wagon for the Midlands Academy, which he looks up in the phone book and pays a visit to. Burns and another one of them pop up out of hiding and subdue David, examining his ID.
IMDb said:
A closeup of David Vincent's California driver's license indicates that his date of birth is October 2, 1934 (making Vincent four years older than actor Roy Thinnes), he is 5'9", weights 170 pounds, and has brown eyes and brown hair. His home address is listed as 4022 Laguna Street, Santa Barbara, California 93101.
Moments later, the computer describes him to newly arrived aliens as 5' 11" tall with sandy hair. Close-ups clearly show Vincent has blue eyes, not brown.
This is very true.
Licenses don't have ages because a person's age is constantly changing.
Vincent's driver's license is missing the date it was issued.
In the academy, a captive Mr. Cahill finds himself the guest of a Dr. Reynard (Murray Matheson), who makes an offer not to kill him and to pay him good dough if he'll transport "immigrants" to their indoctrination centers throughout the country. Outside, David overcomes his captors and sneaks inside, spying on a classroom of them studying a lesson about using the human emotion of fear; then a room of them lying on tables while being fed verbal information by a computer. Heading back outside after being seen by the latter group of students, David hides in the back of a van in which Cahill is driven out. When Dr. Reynard learns who their intruder was from the license, he has information about Vincent fed to the students by the computer.

David proceeds to the airfield and questions the girl at the desk, Stacy (Susan Oliver), about Cahill, letting her believe he's a reporter. She takes him to a cocktail lounge, where he continues to ask her about Cahill and the crash landing. When he steps out for a smoke, one of them tries to FIND him but is fought off. Thinking she's been stood up, Stacy proceeds home, where we learn that she's Barney's disgruntled wife who likes to go out for drinks before coming home. He flashes around his new dough to impress her, though she's concerned about where it came from. At the hospital, David is questioned by Lt. Alvarado (two-time Trek guest Barry Russo), who takes interest in his story about the academy being a front for people planning to overthrow the government, though he casts doubt on David's credibility because of the booze on his breath.

Alvarado nevertheless drives David out there, where Reynard has been observing and coaching students discussing topical subjects in a replica of a hip go-go joint. Alvarado produces a warrant, and David proceeds to try to show him the rooms that he saw, only to find benign examples of a classroom, rec room, and lab. As the lieutenant exits, Burns returns David's wallet. At the airfield, Barney and Stacy arrive in a new convertible, the latter probing the former about what he's involved in. David's there to confront Barney about who he's working for, giving him the broad specifics of what his employers are after without specifying what they are. Awkwardness ensues when Stacey reenters the scene and exchanges greetings with David. With her help, David persuades Barney to bring his next passengers back to the airfield to be caught by waiting police. But Stacy calls Midlands Academy to warn them, having been told of them by David.

At his pickup spot, Cahill sees a saucer lifting off from behind some trees, and asks his suddenly appearing passengers if it brought them there...though they remain scornfully mum. David calls in Gilbert of the state police (Byron Morrow) to meet him, but they intercept him on the road, FINDing his deputy. David finds the Midlands crew arriving at the field and questions Stacy, who protests that they said they wouldn't hurt anybody. David busts into the dispatcher's room, where Burns has dealt with the usual occupant and is directing Cahill's landing, and Burns ends up disintegrating after a struggle over his gun. David radios Barney to tell him not to land, trying to improvise a plan B; but while David tries to keep the truth from Barney, Cahill figures out who blew the whistle on them. He grimly changes course for the academy, briefly alluding to previously mentioned wartime service before diving his plane into the main building while Reynard tries to run for cover.

Stacey goes to the cocktail lounge (where ladies drink free during the Epilog) to try to talk to David as he's about to leave for Albuquerque, desperate to convince him that she didn't intend for what happened, she just wanted money. He rebuffs her and boards his bus.

The QM Narrator said:
An indoctrination center destroyed, where new arrivals on the planet Earth can learn the fine points of human behavior. A day later, David Vincent leaves the town of Cameron, New Mexico, grimly aware that sometimes human behavior can seem as alien as creatures from another world.



Okay, that made me look up his Discography. He's been releasing singles since the year I was born. He's 80 years old. I had no idea.
I didn't know offhand that his recording career went that far back, either, but the earlier examples were with various bands. It's notable that his '68 single, "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man," remains his biggest hit at this point in 50th Anniversaryland, though that will be changing in the relative short term.

I always get a kick out of watching Mick Fleetwood when they perform. The guy has madness in his eyes. :rommie:
Ditto.
 
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Tony and Doug tumble out separately
Interesting. Maybe they should start holding hands.

Tony sees Doug in the wagon and is told by a chatty shopkeeper (David Opatoshu) that his friend is headed for execution because of Robespierre's arrest quota.
Which was calculated by a big computer in his office.

Watching unidentified movie footage of guillotine executions
At least we hope it's movie footage.

(while the subject of language remains unaddressed)
Sacre bleu!

the guys slip out in redcap disguises and hit the streets, hoping to help shopkeeper.
"Might as well alter history as long as we're here."

Kirk is preoccupied by what he sees and comes up with a desperate plan to send back a family heirloom ring to give TT a radiation fix for picking up Tony and Doug.
This actually seems a lot less desperate than a lot of other situations they've been in. And why is his ring radioactive?

They find Tony and Doug on Tunnelvision and send the ring back
Okay, so they find Tony and Doug and send the ring back to them so they can find them.

Thinking he's their general, they come out of hiding and are arrested.
Oops. :rommie:

The French general--who's billed as Querque
Cute. :rommie:

he sees an inscription from Axel to MA
"See you in Paradise City, babe. ;) "

they demand to see the American ambassador (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouverneur_Morris).
"He'll tell you that you're doing this Revolution thing all wrong. Go on, ask him."

Shop makes a deal that if the guys help him get to Marie Antoinette, he can get them out of Paris.
This seems oh-so dubious.

The guys proceed to escape by taking out a group of guards whom they lure into the cell
No trained soldiers in history are a match for modern historians!

Back in 1968, an embarrassed Kirk has been insisting that all of his ancestors came from Scotland, though Swain and Ann play along with him while obviously unconvinced.
That's hilarious. :rommie:

TT find their fix stuck on General Querque because of the ring, so Kirk demands that Querque be snatched through the Tunnel.
But why?

Kirk tells his lookalike where and when he is and gives him a history spoiler that he'll behead Marie Antoinette without the ring.
But why?

She admits that she was having an affair with Von Fersen
That settles that. Thank you, Time Tunnel. :rommie:

Grasping for a way to help her that history will permit
"Je regrette, Madame Antoinette, we will demolish the timeline for anybody but you for some reason."

the guys come up with the idea of saving her son Charles, the Dauphin
Tony? Doug? None of your actions make any sense whatsoever. :rommie:

Back in 1968, Querque gets worked up at the sight of MA, so Kirk takes the controls to show him her execution a week later
But why?

Ann's too squeamish to watch a silhouette of the guillotine being used.
You really can't be squeamish if you want to study history. :rommie:

When Kirk has the ring taken from Querque and put in the Tunnel to send it back to the guys
But why?

the French general--motivated to stop the rescue of the Dauphin
What th--? Somebody actually did something that made sense in the context of their character!

Kirk later learns that some of his ancestors migrated to Scotland from France.
And he distributed detailed information in a memo to all base personnel.

Shop secures a forged pass from Robespierre
Wait, he's the bad guy. How'd they get a forged pass from the bad guy?

Some fighting ensues on the street that includes Doug's double swinging from a rope.
Featuring Special Guest Stuntman Robert Conrad.

the guys show their papers to Lieutenant Napoleon Bonaparte (Joey Tata), whom Tony butters up by telling him the great destiny he sees in the young officer's future
Tony literally just inspired Napoleon. :rommie:

Querque arrives, but Bonaparte refuses to stop the ship, insisting that a man and boy couldn't have gotten past him.
Querque outranks Bonaparte by quite a bit-- no wonder the little was promoted to Emporer ten years later. :rommie:

as Querque has his men open fire, the guys disappear--their clothes not changing first this time
Uh oh.

and the ring separately disappears.
This seemed like a paradox at first, but I guess it makes sense. The younger version of the ring is still in Marie's possession and Querque must pocket it when he kills her. That's a pretty valuable artifact that Kirk has.

Barney Cahill (Jack Warden)
A popular character actor, none of whose work I can remember at the moment.

who are led by a character billed as Mr. Nova
Ah, back to the Pulpy names.

(This is an odd first, as they've consistently tended to disintegrate in situations such as this.)
Weird. Maybe it was a delayed reaction. Did this guy ever pop up again?

Jack Warden's plane was a 1941 Douglas DC3A-S4C4G serial number 4815 registration N128D.
This one doesn't seem to be in the movie database and info is hard to come by. The plane seems to still be in existence and owned by a guy in Nevada, but the registration seems to have been "purged" last month, whatever that means.

Licenses don't have ages because a person's age is constantly changing.

Vincent's driver's license is missing the date it was issued.
But going by his date of birth and the age listed, the license was issued in 1965. I wonder if that might be period accurate.

who makes an offer not to kill him and to pay him good dough
"Okay, but that's my final offer."

if he'll transport "immigrants" to their indoctrination centers throughout the country.
Wasn't he already doing that?

David overcomes his captors
Television does not present a realistic portrayal of overcoming captors.

Accurate.

then a room of them lying on tables while being fed verbal information by a computer.
"Use the small fork for the salad."

When Dr. Reynard learns who their intruder was from the license, he has information about Vincent fed to the students by the computer.
Luckily, it's all wrong. :rommie:

Stacy (Susan Oliver)
Vina!

When he steps out for a smoke, one of them tries to FIND him but is fought off.
Smoking is dangerous.

He flashes around his new dough to impress her, though she's concerned about where it came from.
"It's not from space aliens, is it?"

he casts doubt on David's credibility because of the booze on his breath.
"If you were me, you'd drink to excess too."

Reynard has been observing and coaching students discussing topical subjects in a replica of a hip go-go joint.
Super groovy!

As the lieutenant exits, Burns returns David's wallet.
"You lost this when we beat you up and stole it from you."

At the airfield, Barney and Stacy arrive in a new convertible, the latter probing the former about what he's involved in.
She better get more gruntled. Barney has enough money to find a better wife now.

Awkwardness ensues when Stacey reenters the scene and exchanges greetings with David.
"You still owe me for those six cocktails, by the way."

With her help, David persuades Barney to bring his next passengers back to the airfield to be caught by waiting police.
They must have fixed his plane or provided him with a new one. And come to think of it, that crash landing in the teaser had absolutely no purpose in the plot whatsoever.

But Stacy calls Midlands Academy to warn them, having been told of them by David.
Why would she do that?

Cahill sees a saucer lifting off from behind some trees, and asks his suddenly appearing passengers if it brought them there...though they remain scornfully mum.
Well, it was kind of a silly question.

David finds the Midlands crew arriving at the field and questions Stacy, who protests that they said they wouldn't hurt anybody.
I don't understand why she even involved herself.

Cahill figures out who blew the whistle on them. He grimly changes course for the academy, briefly alluding to previously mentioned wartime service before diving his plane into the main building while Reynard tries to run for cover.
Well, that's pretty sad. He accomplished very little and was motivated by a knee-jerk reaction to his wife's betrayal.

Stacey goes to the cocktail lounge (where ladies drink free during the Epilog)
As long as they remove their hats.

desperate to convince him that she didn't intend for what happened, she just wanted money.
She called the Academy because she thought the space aliens would pay her off?
 
Interesting. Maybe they should start holding hands.
Stock footage violation!

Which was calculated by a big computer in his office.
Meddling Starfleet Capped if that's a reference to his Trek episode.

This actually seems a lot less desperate than a lot of other situations they've been in. And why is his ring radioactive?
The radiation bath that anything sent through the Tunnel gets.

Okay, so they find Tony and Doug and send the ring back to them so they can find them.
However little it makes sense or poorly they've explained it, it's an every-episode conceit of the show that they can pick up video and audio of the guys, but need something more to attempt to pull them out.

Something I've probably been getting mixed up until now is the terminology. Apparently a fix is what they have when they're watching Tony and Doug in Tunnelvision; they need a lock to try to pull them out.

"See you in Paradise City, babe. ;) "
Not Capped.

No trained soldiers in history are a match for modern historians!
They're time-travel scientists!

That's hilarious. :rommie:
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Kirk was trying to placate him to get the ring from him so it could be sent back to Tony and Doug.

"Je regrette, Madame Antoinette, we will demolish the timeline for anybody but you for some reason."
This could pass for character growth that they're starting to realize that they can't change history, at least not the bigger picture.

You really can't be squeamish if you want to study history. :rommie:
Not Ann's proudest professional moment.
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I was surprised that Kirk could operate the controls.

Wait, he's the bad guy. How'd they get a forged pass from the bad guy?
What I meant to say is that it was a forgery of a pass from Robespierre.

Featuring Special Guest Stuntman Robert Conrad.
Majored.

This seemed like a paradox at first, but I guess it makes sense. The younger version of the ring is still in Marie's possession and Querque must pocket it when he kills her. That's a pretty valuable artifact that Kirk has.
I wasn't thinking of the ring's origin point...if they indicated where the 1793 version was, I didn't catch it.

Weird. Maybe it was a delayed reaction. Did this guy ever pop up again?
Not that I noticed, but he was a non-speaking type.

This one doesn't seem to be in the movie database and info is hard to come by. The plane seems to still be in existence and owned by a guy in Nevada, but the registration seems to have been "purged" last month, whatever that means.
The owner was tired of retro sci-fi fans pestering him.

Wasn't he already doing that?
For the first time. Guess they wanted to take the opportunity to secure his confidence as a regular employee.

Television does not present a realistic portrayal of overcoming captors.
All you need is to read those papers that Tony and Doug wrote.

Super groovy!
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"You lost this when we beat you up and stole it from you."
:lol:

They must have fixed his plane or provided him with a new one.
They did mention having fixed it.

Why would she do that?
I had trouble following her motivations myself. I think the gist of it was that she wanted to stop Barney from ruining a good thing, and not knowing what his employers were, underestimated what they'd do with the tip. What made no sense in that context was why she encouraged Barney to go along with David in the first place.



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Stock footage violation!
And it might give the wrong idea. :rommie:

Meddling Starfleet Capped if that's a reference to his Trek episode.
It was. :D

The radiation bath that anything sent through the Tunnel gets.
Then... they could send anything. "Toss me that can of Pepsi."

Something I've probably been getting mixed up until now is the terminology. Apparently a fix is what they have when they're watching Tony and Doug in Tunnelvision; they need a lock to try to pull them out.
Okay. Not too different from Trek's transporter, I guess.

Not Capped.
A reference to Axl Rose. Guns'n'Roses had a song called "Paradise City." You can thank my younger Brother that I even know he exists. :rommie:

Some rare levity for Time Tunnel. :rommie:

Kirk was trying to placate him to get the ring from him so it could be sent back to Tony and Doug.
Ah, okay.

Not Ann's proudest professional moment.
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Turn in your white lab coat, Ann. :(

I was surprised that Kirk could operate the controls.
Was he proficient or did he have to hunt and peck?

What I meant to say is that it was a forgery of a pass from Robespierre.
Ah, okay.

:D

I wasn't thinking of the ring's origin point...if they indicated where the 1793 version was, I didn't catch it.
Right, she couldn't have been wearing it. Querque probably searched her stuff after her death because he had already seen it.

The owner was tired of retro sci-fi fans bugging him.
"Take us for a ride! But show us your pinkies first!"

Love, Invaders Style.

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"Hulk only want to fight fair with gamma-enhanced strength."
 
Then... they could send anything. "Toss me that can of Pepsi."
I guess cans were around then, but nothing captures the period like the glass bottle.

Okay. Not too different from Trek's transporter, I guess.
Except that for them, a communication link was enough to get a transporter lock.

A reference to Axl Rose. Guns'n'Roses had a song called "Paradise City." You can thank my younger Brother that I even know he exists. :rommie:
Ah...that song was actually the first thing I thought of, but I wasn't making the Axel connection.

Turn in your white lab coat, Ann. :(
And undo your bun.

Was he proficient or did he have to hunt and peck?
He seemed comfortable.

For some reason, I always think that he was a colonel.

Love, Invaders Style.
If only I could share the groovy instrumental music. I did find this clip from the episode, though it doesn't include the club:
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"Hulk only want to fight fair with gamma-enhanced strength."
"Apple? Cherry? Lemon? Hulk want beans!"
 
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I guess cans were around then, but nothing captures the period like the glass bottle.
Especially the green glass Coke ones. I actually have a couple on a shelf behind me.

Except that for them, a communication link was enough to get a transporter lock.
I think that was because of the communicator. I seem to remember at least one situation where somebody called for a beam up and then slid the communicator across the floor so that the beam grabbed somebody else.

Ah...that song was actually the first thing I thought of, but I wasn't making the Axel connection.
I think that counts as arcane information in the back of my head. :rommie:

And undo your bun.
Eh, I like her buns. :rommie:

He seemed comfortable.
Points for him. A supervisor should know the job of the people he supervises.

For some reason, I always think that he was a colonel.
Did they ever even mention a rank in Wild Wild West? He was a Secret Service agent, but he must have had a rank from the war.

If only I could share the groovy instrumental music. I did find this clip from the episode, though it doesn't include the club:
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That was like social media monetization training. :rommie:

"Apple? Cherry? Lemon? Hulk want beans!"
Ah, yes, the beans. I think that was introduced by Gerber in Defenders.
 
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