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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

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He seems like an odd choice for Midnight Special. I wonder if he did standup between sets.

"Deuce," Kiss

"Black Diamond," Kiss
I'm not familiar with either of these, but "Black Diamond" is definitely the better of the two. Not that either is great.

I caught that they were playing Wild Kingdom, but didn't know about Grizzly Adams. I know that they recently added Adventures of Superman in Kolchak's old slot; and moved up the weeknight Twilight Zone, putting Dragnet in its old slot.
I didn't notice Superman, but I had been wondering how long they could keep running the same twenty episodes of Kolchak.

That's assuming that he wasn't just part of a mass burial or something.
It's certainly possible, but he'd also be very recognizable to almost anybody likely to find his body. Plus, it would be a neat little bit for a time travel story for Kirk to find him and have him reburied in the family plot or something. Kind of outside the wheelhouse of what Time Tunnel does, though.

Except that they normally use those tubes for regeneration. Here the tank may have been used in emulation of the abiogenesis experiments.
True, this could have been the first time this degeneration issue came up.
 
50 Years Ago This Week


July 13
  • John Lennon won the lawsuit filed by Morris Levy, winning $144,700 in lost royalties and a damaged reputation assessment.

July 14
  • South Africa began aiding the National Liberation Front of Angola (FNLA) and the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA), pro-Western Angolan independence fighters, against the Marxist People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA), which had taken control of the capital of Angola earlier in the month. U.S. President Ford, on recommendation of Secretary of State Kissinger, signed an order four days later to begin Operation IA Feature, providing American financial aid to FNLA and UNITA as well.

July 15
  • The first Apollo rocket mission since Apollo 17's 1972 trip to the Moon lifted off from Cape Canaveral at 3:50 pm with a crew of three. In the last use of the enormous Saturn rocket on a crewed mission, Donald "Deke" Slayton, Vance Brand, and Brigadier General Thomas Stafford were sent into space about eight hours after the launching of a Soyuz rocket with Alexei Leonov (the first man to walk in space) and Valeri Kubasov, who went up at 4:20 pm from the Soviet Union (7:20 am in Florida). Slayton, who had been one of the original seven Mercury astronauts before being grounded in 1962 because of a heart murmur, radioed to ground control, "I'll tell you, this is worth waiting 16 years for!"
  • An unidentified man on National Airlines Flight 1601 committed suicide by self-immolation as the DC-10 flew from New York to Miami. The man locked himself in an airplane restroom, put fuel on himself and then set himself ablaze. Nobody else was injured as the plane made an emergency landing in Jacksonville.
  • Modoc, 78, the oldest elephant in captivity, died at the San Francisco Zoo. Her story would later be novelized in 1998 in a children's book by Ralph Helfer, Modoc: The True Story of the Greatest Elephant That Ever Lived.

July 16
  • The evacuation of thousands of Portuguese nationals, who were preparing to move away from Angola in advance of its scheduled independence from Portugal in November, began as the airline Swissair began sending jets to Luanda during a temporary lull in the Angolan civil war.
  • Died: Lester Dragstedt, 81, American surgeon who, in 1955, was the first person to successfully separate siamese twins.

July 17
  • A crewed American Apollo spacecraft and the crewed Soviet Soyuz spacecraft for the Soyuz 19 mission docked in orbit, marking the first such link-up between spacecraft from the two nations. At 3:19 pm Washington time (10:19 pm in Moscow), peering through the opened hatches into the Apollo's connecting module, Colonel Leonov welcomed General Stafford with the English words, “Glad to see you.” General Stafford, replying in Russian, said: “A, zdraystvuite, ochen rad vas videt” (“Ah, hello, very glad to see you.”). Apollo commander Tom Stafford and Soyuz commander Alexei Leonov shook hands. Deke Slayton then joined Stafford in boarding the Soyuz ship, where the astronauts remained for two more hours.
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  • Japan's Crown Prince (and later Emperor) Akihito and his wife, Princess Michito, narrowly missed being struck by a Molotov cocktail thrown at them by protesters during a visit to the city of Naha on Okinawa.
  • Most of the coffee crop in the Brazilian state of Paraná was destroyed by the Geada Negra ("Black Frost"), when unusually low temperatures brought snow to much of the tropical region.
  • Ringo Starr and Maureen Starkey were divorced in the London Divorce Court.

July 18
  • U.S. President Ford secretly communicated to Congress his decision to authorize $6,000,000 for a CIA operation to combat Marxist soldiers. The plans for Operation IA Feature did not specify the nature of the operation, nor even where it was taking place, but were an intervention in the Angolan Civil War to support the pro-Western National Liberation Front of Angola (FNLA) and National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA) against the ruling Marxist regime, the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA).
  • A threatened nationwide strike of American railroad workers was called off suddenly after the railroads and the unions signed a pact in Washington.

July 19
  • Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band (named for a street in Belmar, New Jersey) completed the recording of the classic rock album Born to Run.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Listen to What the Man Said," Wings
2. "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony
3. "I'm Not in Love," 10cc
4. "One of These Nights," Eagles
5. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John
6. "Magic," Pilot
7. "Swearin' to God," Frankie Valli
8. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
9. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
10. "Rockin' Chair," Gwen McCrae
11. "Midnight Blue," Melissa Manchester
12. "The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
13. "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka
14. "Misty," Ray Stevens
15. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
16. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War
17. "The Rockford Files," Mike Post
18. "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band
19. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
20. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
21. "Wildfire," Michael Murphey
22. "Every Time You Touch Me (I Get High)," Charlie Rich
23. "When Will I Be Loved," Linda Ronstadt
24. "Mornin' Beautiful," Tony Orlando & Dawn
25. "Slippery When Wet," Commodores
26. "Love Won't Let Me Wait," Major Harris
27. "I'm Not Lisa," Jessi Colter

29. "Hey You," Bachman-Turner Overdrive
30. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
31. "It's All Down to Goodnight Vienna," Ringo Starr
32. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
33. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
34. "Just a Little Bit of You," Michael Jackson
35. "Saturday Night Special," Lynyrd Skynyrd
36. "Sweet Emotion," Aerosmith
37. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
38. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
39. "Get Down, Get Down (Get on the Floor)," Joe Simon
40. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
41. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
42. "I Don't Know Why," The Rolling Stones

44. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company

46. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
47. "Only Women [Bleed]," Alice Cooper

49. "The Ballroom Blitz," Sweet

51. "Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins

53. "Thank God I'm a Country Boy," John Denver

55. "Fame," David Bowie

66. "Feelings," Morris Albert

68. "Sister Golden Hair," America

70. "Philadelphia Freedom," Elton John

73. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers
74. "Cut the Cake," Average White Band
75. "Take Me in Your Arms (Rock Me a Little While)," The Doobie Brothers

77. "Daisy Jane," America

79. "Tush," ZZ Top

80. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band

89. "Dance with Me," Orleans
90. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters

100. "Rocky," Austin Roberts

Leaving the chart:
  • "Bad Luck," Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (17 weeks)
  • "Bad Time," Grand Funk (15 weeks)
  • "I'll Play for You," Seals & Crofts (15 weeks)
  • "The Last Farewell," Roger Whittaker (15 weeks)

New on the chart:

"Tush," ZZ Top
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(#20 US)

"Daisy Jane," America
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(#20 US; #4 AC)

"Rocky," Austin Roberts
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(#9 US; #22 AC; #22 UK)

"Dance with Me," Orleans
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(#6 US; #6 AC)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.



He seems like an odd choice for Midnight Special. I wonder if he did standup between sets.
From a different date:
The account has clips by other comedians, including George Carlin, Richard Pryor, and Steve Martin. Carlin and Pryor also hosted.

I'm not familiar with either of these, but "Black Diamond" is definitely the better of the two. Not that either is great.
Was never into Kiss, then or as retro. I found it funny how, in their blatant riff on the Who, you could barely make out that Paul Stanley was smashing his guitar because there was so much smoke.

I didn't notice Superman, but I had been wondering how long they could keep running the same twenty episodes of Kolchak.
Which is currently on Peacock, FWIW.

It's certainly possible, but he'd also be very recognizable to almost anybody likely to find his body.
But it was the backwaters of America, and the victors were the Americans, so they might not have been so familiar with him in that pre-photographic age.

Plus, it would be a neat little bit for a time travel story for Kirk to find him and have him reburied in the family plot or something. Kind of outside the wheelhouse of what Time Tunnel does, though.
Kirk leave the complex? Sacrilege!

True, this could have been the first time this degeneration issue came up.
It was played as an unusual situation.
 
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The first Apollo rocket mission since Apollo 17's 1972 trip to the Moon lifted off from Cape Canaveral at 3:50 pm with a crew of three.
Hmm. Technically, maybe, but Skylab was a modified Saturn V third stage and launched on a Saturn V.

Slayton, who had been one of the original seven Mercury astronauts before being grounded in 1962 because of a heart murmur, radioed to ground control, "I'll tell you, this is worth waiting 16 years for!"
Lotsa progress in spaceflight during those sixteen years.

An unidentified man on National Airlines Flight 1601 committed suicide by self-immolation as the DC-10 flew from New York to Miami. The man locked himself in an airplane restroom, put fuel on himself and then set himself ablaze. Nobody else was injured as the plane made an emergency landing in Jacksonville.
I wonder what his issue was. He obviously intended to take everybody else with him.

Modoc, 78, the oldest elephant in captivity, died at the San Francisco Zoo. Her story would later be novelized in 1998 in a children's book by Ralph Helfer, Modoc: The True Story of the Greatest Elephant That Ever Lived.
Elephants are very intelligent and have pretty long life spans. Imagine if they had thumbs. And stereoscopic vision.

Died: Lester Dragstedt, 81, American surgeon who, in 1955, was the first person to successfully separate siamese twins.
An amazing accomplishment. It's not like it happens a lot.

A crewed American Apollo spacecraft and the crewed Soviet Soyuz spacecraft for the Soyuz 19 mission docked in orbit, marking the first such link-up between spacecraft from the two nations. At 3:19 pm Washington time (10:19 pm in Moscow), peering through the opened hatches into the Apollo's connecting module, Colonel Leonov welcomed General Stafford with the English words, “Glad to see you.” General Stafford, replying in Russian, said: “A, zdraystvuite, ochen rad vas videt” (“Ah, hello, very glad to see you.”). Apollo commander Tom Stafford and Soyuz commander Alexei Leonov shook hands. Deke Slayton then joined Stafford in boarding the Soyuz ship, where the astronauts remained for two more hours.
It seemed such a hopeful event at the time.

Japan's Crown Prince (and later Emperor) Akihito and his wife, Princess Michito, narrowly missed being struck by a Molotov cocktail thrown at them by protesters during a visit to the city of Naha on Okinawa.
That's the kind of thing that can ruin your day.

Most of the coffee crop in the Brazilian state of Paraná was destroyed by the Geada Negra ("Black Frost"), when unusually low temperatures brought snow to much of the tropical region.
This brings back vague memories of an issue with coffee prices.

Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band (named for a street in Belmar, New Jersey) completed the recording of the classic rock album Born to Run.
Wow, they got it out to stores and radio pretty quickly, if that's the case.

"Tush," ZZ Top
Decent song, some nostalgic value.

"Daisy Jane," America
I love this one, one of my favorite America songs. Strong nostalgic value.

"Rocky," Austin Roberts
This is another heartbreaker. Strong nostalgic value.

"Dance with Me," Orleans
Just a song, but with strong nostalgic value.

The account has clips by other comedians, including George Carlin, Richard Pryor, and Steve Martin. Carlin and Pryor also hosted.
Interesting. I have no recollection of ever seeing a comedian host Midnight Special. Not that I watched it every week or anything.

Was never into Kiss, then or as retro. I found it funny how, in their blatant riff on the Who, you could barely make out that Paul Stanley was smashing his guitar because there was so much smoke.
I liked a few of their songs, a couple for their camp value. I just looked at their discography and I'm surprised to see how few charting singles they had, and that their highest-charting single was "Beth." How'd they get to be so famous? :rommie:

Which is currently on Peacock, FWIW.
Ah, good to know he's still available out there.

But it was the backwaters of America, and the victors were the Americans, so they might not have been so familiar with him in that pre-photographic age.
That's a valid point.

Kirk leave the complex? Sacrilege!
I hope he lets everybody else go home sometimes. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Crack of Doom"
Originally aired October 14, 1966
The Old Mixer said:
A backup in the project's wastewater conduits forces the Tic-Toc crew to hire a plumber...
No, really...
Frndly said:
Landing on Krakatoa in 1883, the time travelers try to convince a British scientist that the volcano is about to explode.

Tony and Doug are spied upon by a native (Vic Lundin) as they land in a tropical forest set. From the lightning, tremors, and smell of sulfur, Doug (who's established to be a paper-writing expert in vulcanology) determines that they're on top of a volcano that's threatening to blow. They come upon the native, Karnosu, leading others in attempting to sacrifice a boy (George Matsui) to the volcano. The boy gets away and the natives turn their wrath on the devils who fell from the sky. The uneven melee is interrupted by British researcher Dr. Everett Holland (Torin Thatcher), who holds some sway over Karnosu and chastises him for his ignorant superstitions. The guys introduce themselves as fellow scientists and learn that they're on an island situated between Java and Sumatra...named Krakatoa--DUM DUM DUUUUUMMMMMM! The Tic-Toc crew (who do pick up audio) determine that the guys are in the late summer of 1883. The guys learn that it's late August, but an annoyed Holland is unable to give them an exact date. The guys try to warn him what's about to happen, but he tells them that his research indicates the eruption will be in 20 or 30 years.

The guys meet Holland's daughter, Eve (Ellen McRae, aka Ellen Burstyn from The Exorcist), when she needs help getting out from under a fallen tree. She keeps a journal that could give them the exact date, but she's suspicious that the guys are there to steal her father's research. At TT, Jerry turns up the exact time of eruption--10:02 a.m. on August 27; while Swain exposits than the eruption was 25 times stronger than the biggest H-bomb, and the noise was heard 3,000 miles away. Eve's journal indicates that it's August 26, which gives the guys enough time to come up with an evacuation plan to one of the adjacent islands. They have their eyes on Java, but Ann looks ahead to the aftermath of the eruption and finds that the island will be inundated by a tidal wave.

The guys try to persuade the researchers of the need to evacuate, but they're unwilling to abandon their snazzy Victorian instruments.
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The guys decide to get out on their own with one of two boats available, but one of them has already been taken by the young native they saved, so taking the other would mean stranding the Hollands. Spearheaded by Eager Young Jerry, the TT crew look into a theoretical method of bringing back just one of the travelers, which is established to involve concentrating a great amount of energy to induce rapid acceleration; but there's a risk of power feedback endangering the complex.

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Right after the Professor produces notes indicating that the tremors are getting progressively weaker, the island is rocked by the strongest one yet. The guys get Holland to admit that he's been lying about his results so that the others wouldn't want to evacuate the island before he's gotten the data he needs; but he still estimates that the eruption is days away, and is incredulous when the guys insist that they know the exact time. Doug becomes suspicious that the eruption is closer than they think, and pores through Eve's journal, eventually determining that she made an error--the Hollands' journey involved crossing the International Date Line, and she hadn't accounted for gaining a day, meaning that the eruption is 24 hours closer than they thought.

Before they can spread the news, Karnosu and his minions jump them and drag them to the lava pool again. The TT crew make their move, bringing Tony through the Vortex. He emerges in the Tunnel, but after the profuse amount of smoke from the pyrotechnics clears (now I'm picturing Kiss doing a show in the Tunnel), he finds the crew all frozen like statues.
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Even the Tunnel's livestream of Doug being dragged by the natives is frozen. Tony finds the crew's notes about the procedure and realizes that he's experiencing one of the potential risks--a time warp, in which the crew is frozen "between two split-seconds of time" (or within the wink of an eye, another show might say). He nevertheless finds that the Tunnel controls work at normal speed, so he sets them to take him back to help Doug, but writes out a note for the crew before entering, in which he establishes an exact set of space/time coordinates for them to grab him and Doug. After he leaves, time resumes to normal speed for the crew, and his surprise re-entrance at Krakatoa results in a brawl during which Karnosu stumbles backward into the lava. Tony procudes notes that he brought back with him indicating that they have to go to Sumatra.

As Tony's retrieiving Eve, the TT crew manages to succeed at something that they say they've been trying to do...establishing voice contact with Tony, which Eve can also hear. Tony comes clean with her that he and Kirk's voice are both from the future. As the remaining boat isn't large enough to take everyone (including some now-friendly natives who are probably the same ones who were just dragging them to the lava), Tony volunteers for him and Doug to stay behind to be picked up by TT at the coordinates that he established. But the forces building in the volcano cause feedback in Tic-Toc's instrumentation, so they have to settle for the usual random jump. Tony and Doug vanish back into the vortex just before the island blows.



The Invaders
"Vikor"
Originally aired February 14, 1967
IMDb said:
David Vincent, using an assumed name, gets a job as a chauffeur in order to infiltrate a manufacturing plant and find proof of alien activity.

At Vikor Enterprises, a lineman named Hank (Sam Edwards) is rising in a bucket when he sees a group of them through a window, surrounding a regeneration tube with a figure inside who's glowing and occasionally showing his skeleton. Hank's spotted by their leader, Mr. Nexus (Alfred Ryder), who makes a call as the lineman hurriedly descends to the ground. He's intercepted at his truck by a security guard (Hal Baylor), who slips in the Famous Invader Neck Disc (FIND). Hank's partner, Phil (Joe di Reda), rushes up, and Hank tells him with his dying words how he saw a glowing man in a tube. Phil takes the wheel, pushes the guard aside, and screeches away.

The opening and closing titles for tonight's episode include a noteworthy guest prior to his signature role:
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The QM Narrator said:
David Vincent had read the stories in the newspapers. How, before he died, a telephone lineman had described to his partner a glowing, burning man. The story was investigated by the police and promptly forgotten. Seeking the truth, David Vincent traveled to Fort Scott, Florida, headquarters of Vikor Enterprises...and, perhaps, headquarters for a people from an alien world.

Mr. Nexus is told off by company owner George Vikor (our fine, sweet Lord) for having drawn more attention in having since killed Phil as well than Hank's story would have; but Vikor, a Korean war hero with a wooden leg and a plate in his head, seems to have an arrangement with Nexus that causes him to cooperate. Vikor is called to the police station, where his wife, Sherri (Diana Hyland), has been picked up for drunk driving...again. She's been acting out over her husband spending too much time at the office, and Vikor arranges for the sergeant (Richard O'Brien) to sweep the matter under the rug. David, using the name Daniel Baxter, asks the same security guard about applying for a job, and soon finds himself with one as Sherri's chauffeur...an arrangement she's not happy with, so the first place she has him take her is to Vikor's plant. While she's seeing her husband, David tries to sneak into a security building that she made a point of telling him not to go near, but is intercepted in a stairwell and roughed up by several guards, at least one of whom has a stiff pinky.

Sherri's questioning why her husband jumps for the "foreign investors" whom he says are going to make him the biggest man around when "Baxter" is brought to him for questioning. David gives them a story about being lost and Sherri helps extract him from the situation, though George, assessing that the chauffeur isn't a government agent, instructs Nexus to look into who he really is. Back at Vikor Manor, Sherri wants to know what it is that she can tell David's onto. He initially tries to tell her that her husband's working with a foreign power, but is quickly maneuvered into dropping the alien invasion bomb. She's naturally incredulous, but for some reason believes him enough to ask what she can do to help.

She helps him sneak back into the plant after hours, where he sneaks back into the security building, takes out a guard, and finds both evidence of regen tubes being manufactured and a the regeneration chamber that Hank saw. He watches from hiding as a couple of them are rushed up by others posing as workers to use the tubes. It being a busy night in the security building, soon Vikor and Nexus enter, discussing how the former has to meet quotas to have enough of the tubes ready for the thousands who'll be coming. After Vikor is called away by a teletype that came in about the chauffeur, David hightails it out of the building and an alarm is sounded. Vikor learns that the chauffeur is David Vincent, who's been reporting alien activity to the police, newspapers, and public officials.

Vincent hitchhikes out, but when he tries to stop an officer for help, it's the sergeant from the station, holding a gun on him with an extended pinky. David takes refuge in a busy tavern and calls Sherri to meet him with the car so he can get to the FBI (another Quinn Martin Production). But the Vikors' houseboy (Larry Duran) is eavesdropping via a bug and makes a call. Sherri brings David a gun, but the sergeant and houseboy swoop in, followed by George Vikor, who insists against Nexus's orders on taking David and Sherri back inside for a talk. He tries to tell Sherri that David's a mental case, but on David's prompting, she insists on being taken to the plant to see the third floor of the security building for herself. Dropping his charade, he tells Sherri that he'll be a big man with those who'll soon be running the planet, then airs his grievances against the human race and their system, going back to when he couldn't get a loan after the war to open his first business as his disability caused him to be considered a risk. David counters that they will eliminate Sherri for knowing too much. Sobered to this fact, Vikor tells them to let him handle things his way, which involves ordering the sergeant to take Vincent to the plant and hold him there, while he takes Sherri home.

Nexus drops in at the Vikors' wanting to deal with Sherri against George's objections, planning to stage an apparent suicide via gas. Nexus tries to appeal to Vikor's hunger for wealth and power, and George storms out. While Sherri's being taken into another room, Nexus makes a call for the sergeant and houseboy to off David, but evidently not having been frisked, David shoots them both into disintegration and takes the sergeant's car back to Vikor Manor, where he busts in and saves an unconscious Sherri from the gas. He finds the bug along the way, which he uses to his advantage, proceeding to fake a call to George that makes it sound like Vikor's an undercover agent working against the aliens. Back at the plant, Nexus plays the tape in front of George and has a couple of guards give him the FIND.

In the aftermath, David reports to Sherri that no evidence of the invaders could be found at the plant, but assures Sherri that they won't go after her anymore before moving on in his quest.

The QM Narrator said:
As the Invaders move, so does David Vincent, for they must be stopped. They must be exposed. And if he doesn't do it, who will?

Alas, we don't see Lord and the regen tubes in the same shot, but this could be McGarrett's sleeping arrangement:
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There is a shot of Lord's shadow touching that of a tube's distinctive triple armature:
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This is the first time that I've seen the tubes fully lowered.



Hmm. Technically, maybe, but Skylab was a modified Saturn V third stage and launched on a Saturn V.
I assume that wasn't considered part of the Apollo program, though.

Lotsa progress in spaceflight during those sixteen years.
Which I assume included the entire time he was with the space program prior to being scrubbed for the '62 mission.

It seemed such a hopeful event at the time.
I've seen it criticized for being a political stunt that cost us a mission to keep Skylab in orbit.

Wow, they got it out to stores and radio pretty quickly, if that's the case.
Doesn't seem to have been an unusual timeframe. Spot-checking an example that popped to mind, Abbey Road was also released about a month after recording was finished.

Decent song, some nostalgic value.
Recognizable little piece of classic rock.

I love this one, one of my favorite America songs. Strong nostalgic value.
Not one I was particularly familiar with. This will be their last Top 20 hit until '82; though they'll have one more Top 30 single in '76.

This is another heartbreaker. Strong nostalgic value.
I can't say I was familiar with this one at all. Looks like I'd skipped this guy's prior hit in '72. I might get this one. Subject matter-wise, it reminds me of Bobby Goldsboro.

Just a song, but with strong nostalgic value.
A pleasant oldies radio classic from the peak era of soft rock.

I liked a few of their songs, a couple for their camp value. I just looked at their discography and I'm surprised to see how few charting singles they had, and that their highest-charting single was "Beth." How'd they get to be so famous? :rommie:
Their look/image and merchandising, no doubt. Even in the day, I couldn't have named one of their songs. I should note that the songs in those two clips were both from their first album; and that they're now on their second album, which includes the studio version of what will be their breakout hit when a live version is released as a single.

I don't know if I ever mentioned it, but when I moved in with the Ex in the '90s, she had a condo that had previously been owned by friends whom she says were friends of Ace Frehley. So Ace Frehley may have hung out in our old condo.

I hope he lets everybody else go home sometimes. :rommie:
There's been no hint that the TT crew are ever off duty since the first episode, when Tony snuck into the Tunnel after hours. Something occurred to me in the previous episode, I think, that was supported by a moment in the one posted about above...however their time monitoring works, they seem to be practically limited to watching and potentially intervening with Tony and Doug's trips in real time. In a prior episode, Ann had fretted whether TT would have enough time to do something they were working on to help Tony and Doug. In this one, Ann didn't want to risk looking ahead at the tidal wave for fear of losing her fix on Tony and Doug. If I had to rationalize, I'd guess that it might have something to do with the decay of the radiation used to track them; whatever era they're in, it keeps them in time-sync with TT's efforts to monitor them.
 
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No, really...
No Maintenance Department at Tic Toc? I guess they blew their budget on the tunnel. :rommie:

Doug (who's established to be a paper-writing expert in vulcanology)
I'm sure that will come up frequently.

They come upon the native, Karnosu, leading others in attempting to sacrifice a boy (George Matsui) to the volcano. The boy gets away and the natives turn their wrath on the devils who fell from the sky. The uneven melee is interrupted by British researcher Dr. Everett Holland (Torin Thatcher), who holds some sway over Karnosu and chastises him for his ignorant superstitions.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that none of this resembles reality in any way. :rommie:

...named Krakatoa--DUM DUM DUUUUUMMMMMM!
This is tickling a memory in the back of my head. I remember first learning of Krakatoa in a book I read in grade school. All I remember is that it was a Jules Verne-style adventure novel and the eruption figured into the climax somehow. On another note, this is obviously the origin of the island of Krakoa in the origin of the All-New, All-Different X-Men.

The guys meet Holland's daughter, Eve (Ellen McRae, aka Ellen Burstyn from The Exorcist)
What good is a Mad Scientist without a Beautiful Daughter?

she needs help getting out from under a fallen tree.
Of course she does. :rommie:

Swain exposits than the eruption was 25 times stronger than the biggest H-bomb
That seems excessive.

Eve's journal indicates that it's August 26, which gives the guys enough time to come up with an evacuation plan to one of the adjacent islands.
Honestly, I don't think it does. :rommie:

The guys try to persuade the researchers of the need to evacuate, but they're unwilling to abandon their snazzy Victorian instruments. View attachment 47652
Steampunkery!

Eager Young Jerry
Weirdly, I don't remember this guy at all.

but there's a risk of power feedback endangering the complex.
And damaging the wastewater conduits.

Oh, yeah, I know that guy.

Right after the Professor produces notes indicating that the tremors are getting progressively weaker, the island is rocked by the strongest one yet.
Boy, is his face red.

the Hollands' journey involved crossing the International Date Line, and she hadn't accounted for gaining a day, meaning that the eruption is 24 hours closer than they thought.
Wouldn't that mean it started, like, five minutes ago?

Before they can spread the news, Karnosu and his minions jump them and drag them to the lava pool again.
It's been two seconds since something random happened.

he's experiencing one of the potential risks--a time warp, in which the crew is frozen "between two split-seconds of time" (or within the wink of an eye, another show might say).
It's also reminiscent of that Outer Limits episode where the pilot is caught in frozen time.

but writes out a note for the crew before entering, in which he establishes an exact set of space/time coordinates for them to grab him and Doug
"Also, here's the number for my cousin Johnny, the plumber."

his surprise re-entrance at Krakatoa results in a brawl during which Karnosu stumbles backward into the lava.
Eh, he would have died anyway.

Tony procudes notes that he brought back with him indicating that they have to go to Sumatra.
Giant rats be damned!

the TT crew manages to succeed at something that they say they've been trying to do...establishing voice contact with Tony
Aha!

(including some now-friendly natives who are probably the same ones who were just dragging them to the lava)
They hated Karnosu. He was always throwing people into lava. Tony and Doug are now heroes to them.

Tony and Doug vanish back into the vortex just before the island blows.
This was a good one. It was an interesting historical event for them to use.

he sees a group of them through a window, surrounding a regeneration tube with a figure inside who's glowing and occasionally showing his skeleton
They're worse at security than the OSI.

their leader, Mr. Nexus
A very Bondish or comic-bookish name.

(Alfred Ryder)
He's that guy from that episode of Star Trek with the salt-eating alien.

who slips in the Famous Invader Neck Disc (FIND)
"Don't FIND me, bro!"

The opening and closing titles for tonight's episode include a noteworthy guest prior to his signature role:
Gasp!

George Vikor (our fine, sweet Lord)
:rommie:

the sergeant (Richard O'Brien)
I'm not falling for it this time.

an arrangement she's not happy with, so the first place she has him take her is to Vikor's plant.
How convenient.

intercepted in a stairwell and roughed up by several guards, at least one of whom has a stiff pinky.
Okay, I'm not touching that one. :rommie:

She's naturally incredulous, but for some reason believes him enough to ask what she can do to help.
Well, she's drunk and bored, so, yeah, let's go find some space aliens.

Vikor and Nexus enter, discussing how the former has to meet quotas to have enough of the tubes ready for the thousands who'll be coming.
So They are good for the economy. This poses a conundrum.

Vikor learns that the chauffeur is David Vincent, who's been reporting alien activity to the police, newspapers, and public officials.
Every alien enclave should have a picture of Vincent posted in their main office by now. Or they should be having him watched 24/7.

calls Sherri to meet him with the car so he can get to the FBI (another Quinn Martin Production)
Crossover opportunity!

But the Vikors' houseboy (Larry Duran) is eavesdropping via a bug and makes a call.
Why did they replace the houseboy and not Sherri?

he tells Sherri that he'll be a big man with those who'll soon be running the planet
"I, for one, welcome our new galactic overlords!"

but evidently not having been frisked, David shoots them both into disintegration
I wonder what happens to the bullets. Do their clothes leave any residue?

David reports to Sherri that no evidence of the invaders could be found at the plant, but assures Sherri that they won't go after her anymore before moving on in his quest.
She won't last a day.

Alas, we don't see Lord and the regen tubes in the same shot, but this could be McGarrett's sleeping arrangement: View attachment 47649View attachment 47650
We're getting so close to The Truth here that our very lives are in danger.

This is the first time that I've seen the tubes fully lowered.
Hopefully they'll keep giving us these little details.

I assume that wasn't considered part of the Apollo program, though.
Yeah, I think that's exactly it.

Which I assume included the entire time he was with the space program prior to being scrubbed for the '62 mission.
Right, because that would go back to 1959.

I've seen it criticized for being a political stunt that cost us a mission to keep Skylab in orbit.
I don't know what all the various pros and cons were, and I don't know why they needed a Saturn V to rendezvous with Soyuz, but I suppose Skylab was doomed either way.

Doesn't seem to have been an unusual timeframe. Spot-checking an example that popped to mind, Abbey Road was also released about a month after recording was finished.
Funny how things moved so much faster back then than in our current fast-paced world. Nowadays it takes forever to create a movie or TV show or comic book-- and probably record album, although I have no knowledge of that.

Not one I was particularly familiar with. This will be their last Top 20 hit until '82
Which was not great. The band is basically over at this point.

I can't say I was familiar with this one at all. Looks like I'd skipped this guy's prior hit in '72. I might get this one. Subject matter-wise, it reminds me of Bobby Goldsboro.
Yes, and I also associate it with "Emma" by Hot Chocolate. Although I find that one almost impossible to listen to, especially since that's the name of my friend who died from dementia.

Their look/image and merchandising, no doubt.
Yeah, they were basically professional celebrities.

I don't know if I ever mentioned it, but when I moved in with the Ex in the '90s, she had a condo that had previously been owned by friends whom she says were friends of Ace Frehley. So Ace Frehley may have hung out in our old condo.
That's cool. You should have had one of those KISS parties where everybody wears their own KISS-style makeup. :rommie:

There's been no hint that the TT crew are ever off duty since the first episode
Another one of those shows, like Columbo and Kolchak, where we never see the character's personal life (if they have one).

Something occurred to me in the previous episode, I think, that was supported by a moment in the one posted about above...however their time monitoring works, they seem to be practically limited to watching and potentially intervening with Tony and Doug's trips in real time. In a prior episode, Ann had fretted whether TT would have enough time to do something they were working on to help Tony and Doug. In this one, Ann didn't want to risk looking ahead at the tidal wave for fear of losing her fix on Tony and Doug. If I had to rationalize, I'd guess that it might have something to do with the decay of the radiation used to track them; whatever era they're in, it keeps them in time-sync with TT's efforts to monitor them.
Interesting. There are always problems like this in time travel stories, but I wonder why they can't just reset their monitoring to the boys' arrival time. For that matter, why can't they reset to a previous time jump altogether? Time travel is a can of worms! :rommie:
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that none of this resembles reality in any way. :rommie:
A fictitious situation, to be sure.

That seems excessive.
Wiki indicates that the blast was only four times as powerful as the 50-megaton Tsar Bomba. The range at which the blast was heard was roughly accurate.

Honestly, I don't think it does. :rommie:
Yeah, I had to wonder how far they could get from a 200-megaton explosion in a paddleboat.

Weirdly, I don't remember this guy at all.
Looks like he was in a total of five episodes, three of which we've seen.

Wouldn't that mean it started, like, five minutes ago?
I was questioning the timing of this as well. It was never clear what time of day it was supposed to be when they learned of the journal error.

They hated Karnosu. He was always throwing people into lava. Tony and Doug are now heroes to them.
And yet they followed him and did the dragging for him.

They're worse at security than the OSI.
Coming in Season 2:
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Actually next week's episode on Me, if you want to watch ahead. I won't be getting to it until next year.

Oh, and they're going to be playing the Emergency! episode with Adam West on Thursday night.

I'm not falling for it this time.
Ah, him again.

Well, she's drunk and bored, so, yeah, let's go find some space aliens.
:D

Hyland's accent was all over the place. Looking it up, she was an American actress; but in some scenes it sounded like she was going for British.

So They are good for the economy. This poses a conundrum.
Now that you mention it, alien rule would be an improvement these days.

Every alien enclave should have a picture of Vincent posted in their main office by now. Or they should be having him watched 24/7.
You'd think.

Why did they replace the houseboy and not Sherri?
Her husband wouldn't have approved, and would have been in a position to tell.

I wonder what happens to the bullets. Do their clothes leave any residue?
As far as I've noticed, they vanish without a trace.

I don't know what all the various pros and cons were, and I don't know why they needed a Saturn V to rendezvous with Soyuz, but I suppose Skylab was doomed either way.
From what I'd heard, that Saturn V was previously set aside for a maintenance mission that would have kept Skylab in orbit a while longer, which likely would have meant overlapping with the shuttle program.

Funny how things moved so much faster back then than in our current fast-paced world. Nowadays it takes forever to create a movie or TV show or comic book-- and probably record album, although I have no knowledge of that.
Well, recording the album can be a much longer process. We're talking about the time from recording being finished to release.

Another one of those shows, like Columbo and Kolchak, where we never see the character's personal life (if they have one).
At least those guys get outside.

Interesting. There are always problems like this in time travel stories, but I wonder why they can't just reset their monitoring to the boys' arrival time. For that matter, why can't they reset to a previous time jump altogether? Time travel is a can of worms! :rommie:
By contrast, there was a bit in an earlier episode when they literally put the monitoring of the guys on pause while they worked on a way to help them; as if that would stop the otherwise parallel flow of time between the guys and TT.
 
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Wiki indicates that the blast was only four times as powerful as the 50-megaton Tsar Bomba. The range at which the blast was heard was roughly accurate.
Yes, it could be heard in Australia, I think, so that much is true.

Yeah, I had to wonder how far they could get from a 200-megaton explosion in a paddleboat.
They'd certainly have incentive to paddle wicked fast. :rommie:

Looks like he was in a total of five episodes, three of which we've seen.
Ah, that explains it. He probably got fired for being too excitable. :rommie:

And yet they followed him and did the dragging for him.
People will inexplicably obey people they hate and then rejoice when they die.

Coming in Season 2: View attachment 47673
Actually next week's episode on Me, if you want to watch ahead. I won't be getting to it until next year.
I'll probably record it if I remember. My Mother would want to see that.

Now that you mention it, alien rule would be an improvement these days.
I'm telling you, the Space Alien Party has my vote. I won't join, though. I don't do political parties. :rommie:

Her husband wouldn't have approved, and would have been in a position to tell.
True, I guess. They could have convinced him to send her to a rehab, and then she would be "much better" when she returned. But I suppose he knew enough to not fall for it.

From what I'd heard, that Saturn V was previously set aside for a maintenance mission that would have kept Skylab in orbit a while longer
Which makes me wonder again why they couldn't have used a little Saturn for the Soyuz rendezvous. I don't think there would be any special weight or altitude requirements.

which likely would have meant overlapping with the shuttle program
It would have been very cool to see a shuttle rendezvous with Skylab.

Well, recording the album can be a much longer process. We're talking about the time from recording being finished to release.
Yeah, I suppose so.

At least those guys get outside.
True. :rommie:

By contrast, there was a bit in an earlier episode when they literally put the monitoring of the guys on pause while they worked on a way to help them; as if that would stop the otherwise parallel flow of time between the guys and TT.
That would have pretty much killed any suspense if they did that all the time. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Revenge of the Gods"
Originally aired October 21, 1966
MeTV said:
Tony and Doug materialize near ancient Troy just before the last battle between the Trojans and Greeks.

This would be by and far the furthest they've traveled in time thus far. The guys land surrounded by the bodies of Greek soldiers, and take cover as more ride in, to watch as they engage in battle with enemies. The Tic-Toc crew determine that the scene is around 1,200 B.C. where Greece and Turkey meet (though IMDb indicates that Greek horsemen using saddles and stirrups is a big anachronism, to the tune of approximately one and two millennia, respectively). Suddenly the guys find themselves jumped by a suspicious group of Greeks (led by Kevin Hagen).

The guys are taken to the tent of Ulysses (John Doucette), who's having an argument with his advisor, Sardis (Joseph Ruskin), over the latter wanting to burn Troy to the ground, which would endanger Helen. (Note that Roman names are used for the central protagonist of the story and several gods. And there's no explanation for the guys' ability to communicate with ancient Greeks.) Ulysses examines the prisoners' strange clothing and asks them a series of questions about where they hail from. Doug describing that they come from a place of time without beginning or end causes Ulysses to declare that they're gods, though Sardis insists that they're human, and Trojan spies. He tries to test them by challenging Tony to a xiphos duel, in which Tony puts up a good fight, though he only wins it by employing some TV Fu after he's disarmed. (At one point Sardis throws his mighty shield.) When the defeated Sardis tries to throw a spear into Tony's back, Ulysses bitch-slaps him and he storms out, frustrated with his boss's ongoing unwillingness to heed his advice, which he blames for prolonging the war. Ulysses does heed some of Sardis's skepticism, however, testing the guys in his own way. Between the two of them, they exhibit enough knowledge of their Homer and Virgil to convince him that they are indeed gods who've come to help him.

Sardis goes straight to Troy to see Paris (Paul Carr), who's dealing with the disdain of Helen (Dee Hartford) over whatever means he used ten years prior to cause her to come with him willingly. Sardis tells Paris of the visitors and Paris plots to abduct them, believing that Ulysses will see this as a bad omen that will stymie his offense. Back at the Greek camp, Doug's planning to split willingly at the first opportunity, but Tony wants to stick around long enough to see if the mythical Trojan horse is for real. While Tony visits Ulysses as he's going over plans for the horse with a contractor named Epeios (Abraham Sofaer), Doug is nabbed from his tent by Sardis and goons, who set fire to the Greek camp.

In Troy, Paris conducts his own test of Doug's knowledge of Greco-Roman myth, which Doug--while disavowing Ulysses's belief that he's a god--passes by knowing of Cassandra's prophecies, confirming that Troy will be burnt to the ground. Paris has Doug kept alive to be on the safe side, but Sardis schemes with Paris to use his knowledge of how Ulysses thinks to deliver a decisive defeat to the Greeks on the battlefield the next day. Ulysses, however, counter-plans to use his knowledge of Sardis's tactics against the Trojan forces.
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When an army of Troy's elite forces marches to the Greek camp and engages them in battle, Ulysses's plan to create a wall of fire is endangered by the chaotic melee, so Tony runs in to toss a torch that ignites the prepared line of straw. A few millennia in the future, Gen. Kirk decides to help Tony in the most blatantly history-disrupting manner he can think of--by sending back a submachine gun and a bag of grenades. When the munitions don't initially go through, Sgt. Jiggs rushes to the Tunnel and is himself transported back with them.

Jiggs tumbles out of the Tunnel and saves Tony from being overwhelmed before being pulled back. Is this where our tax dollars went, LBJ?
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Then there's some odd, hokey filler business about Jiggs having trouble exiting the Tunnel while wailing like a ghost, coming out aged, being sent back in, and then being followed out again by a Trojan soldier. Jiggs's men drive the sword-slinging soldier back into the Tunnel and he's returned to his time, tossing his sword at the soldiers before he disappears. The general and docs pick up the sword and take a moment to marvel at the tangible proof that the siege of Troy wasn't a myth--What, do they think they've been watching a schlocky sci-fi TV show? Back in the ancient world, the wooden horse business proceeds, and Tony arranges to be among those inside. Doug tries to encourage Helen when the ships appeaer to be returning to Greece; but Doug is then taken to be put on the rack. Doug tries to warn Paris of his fate, and that his disbelief of his sister's prophecies was a condition set by Apollo.

Paris is informed of the horse left as apparent tribute from Ulysses, and doesn't heed Sardis's suspicions.

Sardis: I fear the Greeks, even when offering gifts.​

The horse is wheeled into the gates with cinematic spectacle. When it's left unattended in the dead of night, the Greek special forces sneak out and go to work. Tony ends up in another duel with Sardis and finds out where Doug is; Sardis is shot by a Greek arrow right after Tony exits the scene. Ulysses storms into Paris's chamber and offers the fearful Trojan prince the opportunity to fight him. Paris begs during the duel but ultimately dies from being quickly and bloodlessly poked by the sword of Ulysses, more or less in accordance with Cassandra's prophecy.

Tony makes it to the dungeon and frees Doug from the Reed Richards treatment. As the two of them reunite with a victorious Ulysses and Helen, the TT crew get their fix, and the guys pop back into their default clothes and disappear.
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Ulysses: The ways of the gods are strange indeed.​

Indeed.

Battle and Trojan horse footage in this episode is borrowed from the films The 300 Spartans (1962) and Helen of Troy (1956), respectively.



The Invaders
"Nightmare"
Originally aired February 21, 1967
IMDb said:
David Vincent visits a small Kansas town that is resentful of strangers and uncovers an alien plot to control locusts and other insects.

Schoolteacher Ellen Woods (Kathleen Widdoes) visits a farm to see Fred Danielson (Jim Halferty), a student who's been absent supposedly because of an injury. She finds Fred up and about in a barn with his father, Ira (William Challee), and Constable Gabbard (William Bramley), all working on a strangle device...and none look happy to see her. Fred picks up a makeshift weapon and begins to go after her as she makes a break for it, but is called back. As the trio continue to operate the device, a swarm of locusts pursues Miss Woods instead, attacking her even as she attempts to take cover in a shed.

The QM Narrator said:
Thirty miles from the geographical center of America, at its very heart, is the town of Grady, population 5,312. Principal industry: farming. Grady, Kansas, the American Gothic: rigid, proud of its tradition, protective of its own, resentful of any threat from the world outside.

Cue David snooping around, drawn there by a headline about the third locust attack in Grady. He's told that Ellen has moved and leaned on by Ed Gidney (James Callahan), who emphasizes how she doesn't need to be bothered. David proceeds to the home of the school principal, Oliver Ames (Robert Emhardt), who's telling him how Ellen's nervous and fragile and spent time in a sanitarium after the death of her parents when she comes downstairs, willing to talk to David. But by this point she's changed her story, insisting that she was hysterical from the attack when she told the newspapermen about the metallic box that controlled the locusts and the involvement of the Danielsons and Gabbard, who've contradicted her original account. As David presses her on the matter, she gets worked up and flees upstairs, and Ames kicks David out. At a diner called the Lunch Counter run by Miss Havergill (Jeanette Nolan), David learns that the Danielsons bought the adjacent farm where Ellen was found before Ed Gidney--whom we learn is Ellen's fiancé--and a couple of friends pop in to deliver a message to David by beating him up. When the constable and Ed's brother, Deputy Carl Gidney (Logan Field), enter to find David lying unconscious on the floor, they decline to pursue Ed and friends in favor of taking David in.

When David's up and about, the constable tells him that he'll be taken to the next town, where he's to catch a bus, and to mind his own business about his attackers. When Ed visits Ellen, she's having second thoughts about her denial of what she saw and he supportively listens as she describes the incident in detail. As the constable and another deputy are about to pull over out by a wheatfield, David grabs the wheel and forces the car off the road, making a run for it into the cover of the field as the constable wounds him. Back at Ames's place, when Ellen sees locusts gathering outside again, she insists on going back to the Danielson farm, making a break for it when Ames forcefully attempts to stop her. As David's running for a building between a group of silos, Ellen sees him from the road and runs out to him. They force their way into the building, where they find not just effective refuge from the swarm, but lab and computer equipment; a map of the US with concentric circles marked on it centering on Grady; and a tank of carnivorous butterflies that devour a hunk of beef. (IMDb notes that it's impossible for butterflies to eat meat because they have proboscides.)

David has Ellen drop him off at the Lunch Counter so he can call the state police, while advising her to go to Ames's place and call Ed. The state deputy, Jim Walton (Wayne Hefley), just calls Constable Gabbard to go talk to Vincent. While David's waiting, he chats up the cook (John Harmon) about the property with the silos, learning that it was bought by Gabbard and is worked by out-of-towners who don't socialize. Meanwhile, Ames's pointed questioning makes Ellen realize that she can't trust him. She begs one of the three ladies there--her neighbors, Clare and Lena Lapham (Irene Tedrow and Nellie Burt), and Miss Havergill--to stay with her until Ed comes. Havergill stays and keeps Ellen in bed upstairs when Ed comes and is told by Ames that Ellen is going to a clinic in Wichita and the doctor has recommended that she not see him. At the diner, David slips out the back when he sees the constable pulling in.

When Ellen learns that Ed was turned away, she hysterically begs the other women to help her, telling them that Oliver's trying to kill her. Havergill calmly chloros her in front of the others. David has snuck through back alleys to the modest house that Ed's been fixing up for him and Ellen. David learns from Ed of Ames's questionable behavior and, trying to convince him that Ellen's in mortal danger, encourages him to try calling the clinic that Ames said he was sending her to. David hides in a closet when the constable pulls up, and Ed learns that there's no such clinic just in time to cover for Vincent.

Ellen is driven away in a station wagon by Havergill and Ames. When David and Ed get to Ames's place, the other ladies tell him what happened and Ed gets his brother on the phone to intercept the wagon. On their way in the direction where Ames was headed, David and Ed are flagged down by Carl, who indicates that they must turned on the road that leads to the Danielson farm...where Ellen tries to make a break for it but is dragged into the barn. When David and Ed come screeching in, Danielson Sr. fires at them with a shotgun, but they run through him and he disintegrates. Ellen stumbles out of the barn to see the constable lining up a shot on the men from concealment and jumps him, giving them time to move in. Inside the barn, David punches Gabbard into the machine and we see a red glow reflecting from offscreen. Meanwhile, Ames and Havergill have headed to the silo building and thrown a switch, which causes it to go up in a fakey red explosion.

In the Epilog, we learn that the remaining suspected invaders have left town. David tries to persuade Ellen to talk to the FBI, but she can't deal with what that would entail, and Ed supports her in keeping her silence.

The QM Narrator said:
Grady, Kansas: proud of its tradition, protective of its own, resentful of any threat from the world outside. David Vincent has faced the invader here, and for a little while, that threat has been pushed aside.



They'd certainly have incentive to paddle wicked fast. :rommie:
Your accent is slipping.

True, I guess. They could have convinced him to send her to a rehab, and then she would be "much better" when she returned. But I suppose he knew enough to not fall for it.
And did they have any reason to replace her before David entered the scene? If anything, the aliens may have been able to use her and her public behavior as leverage against Vikor if needed.

Which makes me wonder again why they couldn't have used a little Saturn for the Soyuz rendezvous. I don't think there would be any special weight or altitude requirements.
Probably so they could call it an "Apollo" mission when it had nothing to do with going to the Moon. Supports the idea that it was a political stunt.
 
The Time Tunnel
If you were curious, I found that book about Krakatoa that I was trying to remember.

This would be by and far the furthest they've traveled in time thus far.
I wonder what the limits are. I don't remember if they ever did a dinosaur episode. Theoretically, they could get flung back to the Cambrian or something, where they wouldn't even be able to breathe.

The guys land surrounded by the bodies of Greek soldiers
That's a grim opener.

(though IMDb indicates that Greek horsemen using saddles and stirrups is a big anachronism, to the tune of approximately one and two millennia, respectively).
Or Tony and Doug have made an amazing historical discovery.

wanting to burn Troy to the ground, which would endanger Helen.
"Then this would all be a big waste."

And there's no explanation for the guys' ability to communicate with ancient Greeks.
I was about to ask. :rommie:

Doug describing that they come from a place of time without beginning or end causes Ulysses to declare that they're gods
That was easy.

though Sardis insists that they're human, and Trojan spies.
This would be a good time for the disembodied voices to kick in.

Tony puts up a good fight, though he only wins it by employing some TV Fu after he's disarmed.
These guys should do pretty well in fights with their modern military training.

(At one point Sardis throws his mighty shield.)
Does it bounce all around the room and come back to him?

frustrated with his boss's ongoing unwillingness to heed his advice, which he blames for prolonging the war.
"Next time I'm voting for the other guy!"

Between the two of them, they exhibit enough knowledge of their Homer and Virgil to convince him that they are indeed gods who've come to help him.
Stay in school, kids!

Helen (Dee Hartford)
She must have been flattered.

whatever means he used ten years prior to cause her to come with him willingly
"You should see my pension."

Tony wants to stick around long enough to see if the mythical Trojan horse is for real.
I probably would have done the same thing. :rommie:

Tony visits Ulysses as he's going over plans for the horse with a contractor named Epeios
"I can save you some money by using Mycenean labor."

Paris conducts his own test of Doug's knowledge of Greco-Roman myth, which Doug--while disavowing Ulysses's belief that he's a god--passes
At least there wasn't math.

Tony runs in to toss a torch that ignites the prepared line of straw.
Why, Tony, why?

Gen. Kirk decides to help Tony in the most blatantly history-disrupting manner he can think of--by sending back a submachine gun and a bag of grenades.
Holy Mother of Hercules. Did he not have a bunker buster handy?

When the munitions don't initially go through, Sgt. Jiggs rushes to the Tunnel and is himself transported back with them.
Must have been Jerry's day off.

Jiggs tumbles out of the Tunnel and saves Tony from being overwhelmed before being pulled back. Is this where our tax dollars went, LBJ?
Actually, yeah, pretty much. :rommie:

Then there's some odd, hokey filler business about Jiggs having trouble exiting the Tunnel while wailing like a ghost, coming out aged, being sent back in, and then being followed out again by a Trojan soldier. Jiggs's men drive the sword-slinging soldier back into the Tunnel and he's returned to his time, tossing his sword at the soldiers before he disappears.
"Irwin's gonna love this!" :rommie: Did Jiggs ever get back to his normal age?

The general and docs pick up the sword and take a moment to marvel at the tangible proof that the siege of Troy wasn't a myth--What, do they think they've been watching a schlocky sci-fi TV show?
The good news is that they'll be able to sell that sucker to a museum and have some money on hand the next time they need a plumber.

the wooden horse business proceeds, and Tony arranges to be among those inside
Why, Tony, why?

Doug is then taken to be put on the rack.
Of course he is.

Doug tries to warn Paris of his fate, and that his disbelief of his sister's prophecies was a condition set by Apollo.
So Doug is pretending to believe this stuff just to screw with Paris's head before he dies?

Sardis: I fear the Greeks, even when offering gifts.
Sardis has achieved a form of immortality.

The horse is wheeled into the gates with cinematic spectacle.
I was going to ask where this came from, but you provided footnotes. :rommie:

Paris begs during the duel but ultimately dies from being quickly and bloodlessly poked by the sword of Ulysses, more or less in accordance with Cassandra's prophecy.
His own brain killed him.

Tony makes it to the dungeon and frees Doug from the Reed Richards treatment.
:rommie:

As the two of them reunite with a victorious Ulysses and Helen, the TT crew get their fix, and the guys pop back into their default clothes and disappear. View attachment 47681
"Now both you and your suit are off the rack. Hahaha."

Battle and Trojan horse footage in this episode is borrowed from the films The 300 Spartans (1962) and Helen of Troy (1956), respectively.
I wonder if stuff like this is an issue for syndication and DVD releases, the way that music is for other shows.

"Nightmare"
So they're telling us this episode never happened? :rommie:

a student who's been absent supposedly because of an injury
His mom could have written him a note. "Please excuse Fred from school. He has to help his father conquer the Earth. Signed, Fred's Mom."

all working on a strangle device
Noose? Bola? Garrote?

a swarm of locusts pursues Miss Woods instead, attacking her even as she attempts to take cover in a shed.
Kind of Hitchcockian.

Cue David snooping around, drawn there by a headline about the third locust attack in Grady.
Kind of a stretch.

Ellen's nervous and fragile and spent time in a sanitarium after the death of her parents
Was this related to alien activity or just random backstory?

insisting that she was hysterical from the attack when she told the newspapermen about the metallic box that controlled the locusts
After all, why would invading space aliens be using a device to control locusts?

Danielsons and Gabbard, who've contradicted her original account
"Wasn't us, man, we weren't controlling locusts."

Miss Havergill (Jeanette Nolan)
Dirty Sally. Yup, that's an obscure reference.

Ed Gidney--whom we learn is Ellen's fiancé--and a couple of friends pop in to deliver a message to David by beating him up.
"Pummelgram for David Vincent!"

When the constable and Ed's brother, Deputy Carl Gidney (Logan Field), enter to find David lying unconscious on the floor, they decline to pursue Ed and friends in favor of taking David in.
"We got laws against vagrancy in this town, buddy boy."

As the constable and another deputy are about to pull over out by a wheatfield, David grabs the wheel and forces the car off the road
So the implication is that they were finally going to just kill him?

Ellen sees locusts gathering outside again
Definitely Hitchcockian. The locust thing is kind of cool. :rommie:

a map of the US with concentric circles marked on it centering on Grady
So they're going to conquer the US with a plague of locusts?

and a tank of carnivorous butterflies that devour a hunk of beef.
Killer locusts and man-eating butterflies? This is getting good. :rommie:

(IMDb notes that it's impossible for butterflies to eat meat because they have proboscides.)
Clearly IMDB is unfamiliar with alien mutant hybrid butterflies.

out-of-towners who don't socialize
That's certainly a polite way of characterizing space invaders. :rommie:

Havergill calmly chloros her in front of the others.
They're all out of towners!

David has snuck through back alleys
Did they forget that this guy's been shot?

David punches Gabbard into the machine and we see a red glow reflecting from offscreen.
They saved some money here....

Meanwhile, Ames and Havergill have headed to the silo building and thrown a switch, which causes it to go up in a fakey red explosion.
And spent it here. :rommie:

David tries to persuade Ellen to talk to the FBI, but she can't deal with what that would entail, and Ed supports her in keeping her silence.
What if They come back?

Your accent is slipping.
It happens when I get excited.

And did they have any reason to replace her before David entered the scene? If anything, the aliens may have been able to use her and her public behavior as leverage against Vikor if needed.
That's true.

Probably so they could call it an "Apollo" mission when it had nothing to do with going to the Moon. Supports the idea that it was a political stunt.
That could be. I don't know offhand what kind of capsule they used for Skylab missions.
 
I wonder what the limits are. I don't remember if they ever did a dinosaur episode. Theoretically, they could get flung back to the Cambrian or something, where they wouldn't even be able to breathe.
Examining the handy "Arrival date" column in the Wiki episode list, it looks like the farthest they ever go back is a few hundred years more than this one, to a biblical event. The farthest altogether is the future, one episode being listed as taking place in 8433.

That's a grim opener.
Justa buncha extras lying around.

I was about to ask. :rommie:
It could be that both of the guys wrote some papers on ancient Greek and Trojan....

That was easy.
Ulysses already had the idea that they were; the guys played into it without direclty confirming or denying that they were gods. Insert Ghostbusters reference.

This would be a good time for the disembodied voices to kick in.
Indeed.

These guys should do pretty well in fights with their modern military training.
They don't have military training, they just wrote some papers on military training...which could come in handy if they ever land in a future ruled by apes....

Does it bounce all around the room and come back to him?
Nope.

Stay in school, kids!
Reading is fundamental!

Why, Tony, why?
The wall of flame was probably repurposed from the borrowed footage; so this could be a case of "Paris, you magnificent bastard, I saw your film!"

Holy Mother of Hercules. Did he not have a bunker buster handy?
They've probably got a nuclear warhead tucked away in that place somewhere.

Actually, yeah, pretty much. :rommie:
But he's going back over 3,000 years in time to slaughter Trojans. Imagine when they had to explain to Nixon why the US had a formal alliance with ancient Greece.

"Irwin's gonna love this!" :rommie: Did Jiggs ever get back to his normal age?
Yeah. The odd thing is that they seem to making the actor up to look older than he was anyway--I'm pretty sure the mustache (which they made a point of showing him without in 1958) is fake. So the difference with the additional age makeup wasn't as dramatic as they probably intended.

The good news is that they'll be able to sell that sucker to a museum and have some money on hand the next time they need a plumber.
I've created a monster.

Why, Tony, why?
Aw, c'mon, you would've rode in the horsey, too.

So Doug is pretending to believe this stuff just to screw with Paris's head before he dies?
He's pretty much citing the myth like it's historical fact. The guys never weigh in on the side about whether it's all bullshit.

Sardis has achieved a form of immortality.
Helen later spoke the famous line more directly, but Sardis went there first.

I was going to ask where this came from, but you provided footnotes. :rommie:
From IMDb, of course.

"Now both you and your suit are off the rack. Hahaha."
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I wonder if stuff like this is an issue for syndication and DVD releases, the way that music is for other shows.
Doesn't seem to be.

His mom could have written him a note. "Please excuse Fred from school. He has to help his father conquer the Earth. Signed, Fred's Mom."
Welcome back...

Kind of Hitchcockian.
Yeah.

Was this related to alien activity or just random backstory?
Presumably the latter; no indication it was the former.

After all, why would invading space aliens be using a device to control locusts?
To use against the US for...reasons. Note that we haven't had much of an indication of what they plan to do with humans in the long run, so they may be looking to whittle down the population.

Dirty Sally. Yup, that's an obscure reference.
Hadn't heard of that one. She appears to have been heavily made up for that role.

Backwater diners seem to be the go-to beachhead of alien infiltrators.

"Pummelgram for David Vincent!"
:D

So the implication is that they were finally going to just kill him?
Seems so; but I don't think there was any indication that these invaders were familiar with him from his other exploits.

Definitely Hitchcockian. The locust thing is kind of cool. :rommie:
The locust swarm effect was pretty fakey, but about what you'd expect from a TV show of this era.

They're all out of towners!
Actually, the other two ladies just seemed to be naive. They thought it was "medicine".

Did they forget that this guy's been shot?
The fakey-colored blood stain was usually visible.

What if They come back?
Fortunately, their M.O. seems to be that once they've attracted too much attention, they bug out...pardon the expression.

It happens when I get excited.
Too much Twisted Tea.
 
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Examining the handy "Arrival date" column in the Wiki episode list, it looks like the farthest they ever go back is a few hundred years more than this one, to a biblical event. The farthest altogether is the future, one episode being listed as taking place in 8433.
That must be the one I saw where Anne time traveled. Unless they visit the future more than once.

Justa buncha extras lying around.
Easy money. :rommie:

It could be that both of the guys wrote some papers on ancient Greek and Trojan....
Hmm. They might also be able to get by on Ancient Greek in the Bible story episode, if that's true. Not sure. But of course they won't even address it.

They don't have military training, they just wrote some papers on military training...which could come in handy if they ever land in a future ruled by apes....
Oh, yeah, you're right, I was thinking of the POTA guys.

Reading is fundamental!
Indeed!
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The wall of flame was probably repurposed from the borrowed footage; so this could be a case of "Paris, you magnificent bastard, I saw your film!"
Ah, writing around the footage. :rommie:

They've probably got a nuclear warhead tucked away in that place somewhere.
:rommie:

But he's going back over 3,000 years in time to slaughter Trojans. Imagine when they had to explain to Nixon why the US had a formal alliance with ancient Greece.
"Is this off the record?"
"Never!"

Yeah. The odd thing is that they seem to making the actor up to look older than he was anyway--I'm pretty sure the mustache (which they made a point of showing him without in 1958) is fake. So the difference with the additional age makeup wasn't as dramatic as they probably intended.
Ah, I was picturing him all hunched over so forth.

I've created a monster.
Yup, it's all on your head. :rommie:

Aw, c'mon, you would've rode in the horsey, too.
I don't know, that part seems a little too life threatening. :rommie:

:D

Welcome back...
I wondered if you'd catch that. :rommie:

To use against the US for...reasons. Note that we haven't had much of an indication of what they plan to do with humans in the long run, so they may be looking to whittle down the population.
True. Which means they probably have no WMD. They definitely show a lot of weakness.

Hadn't heard of that one. She appears to have been heavily made up for that role.
Yeah, she played quite a character. It was a nice little show, although I only remember one episode at this point. I don't even know how I got started watching it, since it was a spinoff of Gunsmoke, which I didn't watch.

Backwater diners seem to be the go-to beachhead of alien infiltrators.
The food is good and reasonably priced.

Actually, the other two ladies just seemed to be naive. They thought it was "medicine".
Oh, okay. I thought they were maneuvering the guys into a trap.

Fortunately, their M.O. seems to be that once they've attracted too much attention, they bug out...pardon the expression.
:rommie:

Too much Twisted Tea.
No such thing. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Massacre"
Originally aired October 28, 1966
MeTV said:
The time travelers try to save themselves from the massacre of Custer's Seventh Cavalry.

Tony and Doug tumble out onto a battlefield full of dead bodies again, but this time of a less ancient vintage--post-Civil War US Army soldiers somewhere out West. A trio of Indians rides up and pursues them on foot as they try to take cover on a forest set, capturing them after Doug puts up a good fight, thanks to the several papers he wrote on TV hero fighting moves. The Indian leader, who speaks English, is named Crazy Horse (Christopher Dark). He questions the guys for intel about the forces of "Yellow Hair". When the guys are trussed up unattended, trumpeter Tim McGinnis (Jim Halferty) from B-Troop, Seventh Cavalry, sneaks into the camp and frees them. Tony hangs bang to give Doug and Tim a chance to escape, and is himself recaptured while they steal horses to get to Custer's camp. Doug also appears to have written some papers on horseback riding.
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By this point, the TT crew have determined that it's summer 1876, and the Indian Bureau has sent a Dr. Charles Whitebird (Perry Lopez)--who required a bit of explanation about what the crew is watching--to extrapolate more information from what they're seeing. Himself a pure-blood Sioux, he's able to identify the assembly of tribes that they're monitoring. Tony is taken to Chief Sitting Bull (George Mitchell), who's intrigued by the stranger, but ultimately sentences him to burn at the stake. Tony walks to his fate voluntarily, calmly telling the chief, "Brother, I will show you how to die." This impresses the chief enough that he spares Tony.

Whitebird identifies General George Armstrong Custer arriving at the cavalry camp (you were hoping for Robert Lansing, but you got Joe Maross), and narrows the date down to shortly before the June 25 titular event. Custer is accompanied by his aide and brother, Tom Custer (Bruce Mars). Subordinate officers Major Marcus Reno (John Pickard) and Captain Frederick Benteen (Paul Comi) object to Custer's plan to attack the Indians against orders in his ambition to become a presidential candidate. McGinnis reports to Custer with Doug to deliver an intel message that offers the general some justification for his attack. Custer puts Doug under arrest so he can't be caught by the Indians and forced to divulge info, but Tim helps Doug to escape by night.

Sitting Bull gives Tony an opportunity to prove himself worthy of becoming a Sioux. His first challenge is a tomahawk duel with Yellow Elk (Lawrence Montaigne). Fortunately, Tony's written several papers on fighting with archaic melee weapons of various cultures, though probably not as many as Doug; but once again gets the upper hand with fisticuffs, and impresses the chief by letting his defeated opponent live. Tony claims to have the magic of precognition, telling his "brother" of the Indians' short-term victory and long-term defeat. Meanwhile, Benteen and a couple of riders catch Doug heading for the Indian village. Doug is spared and learns that the unit is headed for Little Bighorn. He tries to warn the cavalry officers and attempts to spare Tim by having him reassigned to Benteen's command. When McGinnis later learns of this, he thinks that Doug's trying to ruin his career.

The chief agrees to let Tony deliver a peace offer to Custer, but Crazy Horse secretly sends Yellow Elk to stop Tony. Trying to pull out Tony, TT grabs Yellow Elk, who's talked down by Whitebird in his own language (which is quickly translated for our benefit). Whitebird pleads for Elk to avoid future bloodshed by following Sitting Bull. Yellow Elk is then sent back, thinking he was in the place of the spirits. Custer's force arrives at Little Bighorn, where the countryside looks a lot like Monument Valley and Vasquez Rocks. Tony arrives with his offer, warning of the size of Sitting Bull's forces. Custer has both travelers placed under heavy guard.

As the Indian forces ride in, Custer reassigns McGinnis to Major Reno on his own initiative. Tony and Doug ride out with Custer's force, guarded in the rear of the column. When McGinnis disobeys orders by joining them, Tony and Doug overcome their guards to take McGinnis to Reno. Unidentified movie footage ensues of Reno's battalion being routed, which our protagonists witness from high ground. Just after McGinnis rides out to join Reno in retreat, the guys are nabbed by Indians led by Yellow Elk, who lets them know of his change of philosophy and that he's been in the tunnel in the sky, then lets them go. They survey the battlefield, finding Custer's body, and soberly return to the vortex.



The Invaders
"Doomsday Minus One"
Originally aired February 28, 1967
Frndly said:
David searches for a possible connection between a UFO sighting and a scheduled atomic test.

At the Utah Proving Grounds, security chief Major Rick Graves (William Windom) reports to General Theodore Beaumont (Special Guest Star Andrew Duggan, formerly General Britt on 12OCH), requesting more men. A man named Spence (Tom Palmer) calls Graves desperate for an update on when Vincent's going to arrive. After the call, Spence finds himself stuck in the phone booth, and everyone in the tavern initially ignores him. When they let him out, they grab and FIND him.

The QM Narrator said:
David Vincent had received an urgent call from a man he'd never met, to come to a motel he'd never heard of, in a desert he'd never seen. But he came, because the message spoke of alien invaders. The man he'd never met had disappeared. The motel he'd never heard of seemed menacing. But the desert he'd never seen promised him an answer.

David finds himself being tailed, so he uses the cover of a double-trailer truck to slip off the road, then proceeds to the proving ground to meet Graves. The major shows David a large crater that's been attributed to a meteor, but which Spence claimed was the result of a spacecraft crashing, as well as that the craft was met by the base's top engineer, Carl Wyeth. Graves gives Spence the benefit of the doubt, though he's trying to keep this matter close to avoid ridicule. Elsewhere, we learn that the general is a human collaborator when he questions a creepy Mr. Tomkins (Wesley Addy) about Spence's disappearance. Tomkins tips the general off about Vincent. David, already knowing that Tomkins is an alien, spies on this encounter and tells Graves, who doesn't want to believe it because of his friendship with and respect for the general. In his office, Wyeth (Robert Osterloh) scribbles a blotch on what appears to be a map of the crater.

Graves openly hires David and covertly slips him a pass for snooping around restricted areas--having made clear that if David Vincent is caught or killed, the major will disavow any knowledge of his actions. The general takes an interest in the new hire's name. Graves pleads for the general to delay an impending underground test, but can offer no concrete evidence to back his suspicions. In private, the general seems conflicted about his assurances to his old friend. David snoops around Wyeth's office, finding the doodle, but Wyeth returns with a pair of MPs and, knowing who David is, has him arrested. Wyeth insists on going over Graves's head by having David taken directly to the general. A pair of Justice Department agents (led by Lee Farr) arrive to take David into custody.

Graves learns that David's already been arrested and the general forces him to go on leave. In what's become part of his lifestyle, David is suspicious about where the agents are driving him. They let him out near the crater and announce that there's going to be an accident. David makes the requisite break for it, and when the aliens try to run him down in the car, they drive off the crater edge and disintegrate after the vehicle hits the bottom. David meets with Graves and holds up this incident as evidence of the invaders, encouraging the major to look into the Justice Department's involvement. By night, Mr. Tomkins leans on the general to move up the test to the next day, despite a Senate committee being scheduled to observe it the following week, and informs him of a substitute device that will be delivered to the site. We learn that the general is involved in the interest of avoiding a nuclear war that humanity couldn't survive. When David and Graves learn of the rescheduling, they decide that they have to confront the general.

The major approaches the general in the observation bunker and insists that he come out to meet David. Beaumont tries to dismiss their claims, but David confronts the general with all of his shady behavior in the matter. We learn that the general is sick of war and the lives it costs, including that of a son who implicitly died in Vietnam; and feels that a nuclear war is inevitable. He reveals that as part of an agreement with him, the invaders have brought a highly dangerous antimatter bomb to Earth, which if detonated underground would tilt the Earth off its axis, causing earthquakes and tsunamis, but would be less devastating than a nuclear war that would render the Earth uninhabitable to them as well as humans. When David questions whether the aliens will let Beaumont live, the general assures David and Graves that he has the protection of evidence of the aliens in a safe, which he's instructed a general at the Pentagon to open if anything happens to him. David questions whether the evidence is still there, so the general makes a call and learns that the Pentagon general in question has just died. Beaumont then instructs the person on the other end to open the safe, and learns that the evidence is gone.

David shares what he saw on Wyeth's drawing and they determine that the device is being taken near the testing hole. The general announces the cancelation of the test and drives to the site with soldiers. A gunfight ensues in which the soldiers on the other side disintegrate when hit. The general takes a bullet when he charges in after Wyenth, who's hit by Graves and disintegrates. The general commandeers the truck carrying the bomb with the intent of doing a suicide delivery to the aliens, pushing David out of the passenger seat along the way. The truck heads to the point where Tomkins is waiting and explodes on the other side of a rise from David.

After testifying before a military board of inquiry, Graves tells David that the investigation is ongoing with a tight lid over it, the enemy involved having been declared "unknown".

The QM Narrator said:
The earth turns on its axis, unaware of the disaster that never happened. And David Vincent goes forward again, very much aware that a far greater disaster can lie ahead. The final disaster, wrought by...the invader.

This episode sheds some light on why the invaders use subterfuge rather than a more direct approach. They're trying to take over a planet whose inhabitants are capable of rendering it uninhabitable to them.



That must be the one I saw where Anne time traveled. Unless they visit the future more than once.
According to the Wiki episode description, she's abducted to that era and Tony and Doug are sent to help her.

Hmm. They might also be able to get by on Ancient Greek in the Bible story episode, if that's true.
I was joking, you know.

I wondered if you'd catch that. :rommie:
Watched it as a kid, though I'm not planning to revisit it.

True. Which means they probably have no WMD.
Guess again.
They definitely show a lot of weakness.
See above.

I don't even know how I got started watching it, since it was a spinoff of Gunsmoke, which I didn't watch.
Looks like it ran 8:00 on Fridays opposite both The Brady Bunch and Sanford and Son--talk about a death slot--and was followed by Good Times.
 
Tony and Doug tumble out onto a battlefield full of dead bodies again
This is becoming a trope. I hope they don't land on top of the bodies.

Doug puts up a good fight, thanks to the several papers he wrote on TV hero fighting moves.
"Stand back! I'm a published pugilist!"

When the guys are trussed up unattended, trumpeter Tim McGinnis (Jim Halferty) from B-Troop, Seventh Cavalry, sneaks into the camp and frees them.
There's a plot twist. Usually it's the guys who sneak into places and free people.

Doug also appears to have written some papers on horseback riding.

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It's a good thing time travel restores his clothes. He's going to wear out the seat of his pants pretty quickly.

By this point, the TT crew have determined that it's summer 1876, and the Indian Bureau has sent a Dr. Charles Whitebird
Man, things work fast at Tic Toc. Are we sure this is a government agency?

Tony walks to his fate voluntarily, calmly telling the chief, "Brother, I will show you how to die." This impresses the chief enough that he spares Tony.
Not bad. I assume he didn't expect to be plucked away by TT.

and narrows the date down to shortly before the June 25 titular event.
The timing of the Time Tunnel is exquisite.

Custer is accompanied by his aide and brother, Tom Custer
The Sam Kirk of the Old West.

Custer puts Doug under arrest so he can't be caught by the Indians and forced to divulge info, but Tim helps Doug to escape by night.
Tim is a real loose cannon. They should add him to the team.

Fortunately, Tony's written several papers on fighting with archaic melee weapons of various cultures, though probably not as many as Doug
They were chosen as the world's first time travelers for a reason.

and impresses the chief by letting his defeated opponent live.
He once wrote an editorial for the Tic Toc Employee News Bulletin about showing mercy.

Tony claims to have the magic of precognition, telling his "brother" of the Indians' short-term victory and long-term defeat.
When next we see Tic Toc, General Whitebird is in charge and has called in Kirk as a consultant.

When McGinnis later learns of this, he thinks that Doug's trying to ruin his career.
"This is the thanks I get for arbitrarily freeing you!"

The chief agrees to let Tony deliver a peace offer to Custer, but Crazy Horse secretly sends Yellow Elk to stop Tony.
I don't understand why anybody does anything on this show. :rommie:

Trying to pull out Tony, TT grabs Yellow Elk, who's talked down by Whitebird in his own language (which is quickly translated for our benefit). Whitebird pleads for Elk to avoid future bloodshed by following Sitting Bull.
Well, that's an interesting development.

Yellow Elk is then sent back, thinking he was in the place of the spirits.
Understandable.

Custer's force arrives at Little Bighorn, where the countryside looks a lot like Monument Valley and Vasquez Rocks.
Hmm. This could be evidence in favor of Simulation Theory.

When McGinnis disobeys orders by joining them, Tony and Doug overcome their guards to take McGinnis to Reno.
They could all use a little vacation at this point. Oh, wait, that Reno.

They survey the battlefield, finding Custer's body, and soberly return to the vortex.
Yeah, that was kind of a grim choice for a historical event.

"Doomsday Minus One"
Good name for a comic book.

Major Rick Graves (William Windom)
A character actor who needs no introduction.

When they let him out, they grab and FIND him.
And now nobody will ever find him again.

The major shows David a large crater that's been attributed to a meteor, but which Spence claimed was the result of a spacecraft crashing, as well as that the craft was met by the base's top engineer, Carl Wyeth.
Okay, so Spence happened to see Wyeth meet the flying saucer, which then crashed for no apparent reason, and when Spence reported this to Graves, Graves decided to contact famous UFO nut David Vincent for advice?

a creepy Mr. Tomkins
Not as good as Mister Nexus.

Graves openly hires David and covertly slips him a pass for snooping around restricted areas--having made clear that if David Vincent is caught or killed, the major will disavow any knowledge of his actions.
I wonder if his hall pass will self destruct.

In what's become part of his lifestyle, David is suspicious about where the agents are driving him.
Never get into a car with strangers, David.

They let him out near the crater and announce that there's going to be an accident.
"What is this, an Irwin Allen show?"

David makes the requisite break for it, and when the aliens try to run him down in the car, they drive off the crater edge and disintegrate after the vehicle hits the bottom.
Intergalactic invaders are no match for David Vincent!

Mr. Tomkins leans on the general to move up the test to the next day, despite a Senate committee being scheduled to observe it the following week, and informs him of a substitute device that will be delivered to the site.
So they're going to replace the nuclear device with a conventional bomb to make the test look like a failure?

We learn that the general is involved in the interest of avoiding a nuclear war that humanity couldn't survive.
A sympathetic collaborator.

We learn that the general is sick of war and the lives it costs, including that of a son who implicitly died in Vietnam; and feels that a nuclear war is inevitable.
A sympathetic collaborator with a personal stake.

He reveals that as part of an agreement with him, the invaders have brought a highly dangerous antimatter bomb to Earth, which if detonated underground would tilt the Earth off its axis, causing earthquakes and tsunamis, but would be less devastating than a nuclear war that would render the Earth uninhabitable to them as well as humans.
A sympathetic collaborator who is a grade-A sucker.

David questions whether the evidence is still there, so the general makes a call and learns that the Pentagon general in question has just died. Beaumont then instructs the person on the other end to open the safe, and learns that the evidence is gone.
"Tolja so."

they determine that the device is being taken near the testing hole.
I think nuclear weapon testing is a bit more complicated than that. :rommie:

After testifying before a military board of inquiry, Graves tells David that the investigation is ongoing with a tight lid over it, the enemy involved having been declared "unknown".
"You are free to return to your wandering ways despite your involvement in the sabotage of a nuclear weapon test."

This episode sheds some light on why the invaders use subterfuge rather than a more direct approach. They're trying to take over a planet whose inhabitants are capable of rendering it uninhabitable to them.
That does make some sense.

According to the Wiki episode description, she's abducted to that era and Tony and Doug are sent to help her.
That sounds familiar. I seem to remember future aliens taking over the Tic Toc command center.

I was joking, you know.
Oh, yes, I just went off on a pondering tangent.

Watched it as a kid, though I'm not planning to revisit it.
Like a few other sitcoms, the first couple of years were great, then it became self-conscious about its own greatness.

Guess again.
I dunno, they could easily have been bluffing about their antimatter bomb.

Looks like it ran 8:00 on Fridays opposite both The Brady Bunch and Sanford and Son--talk about a death slot
And yet a good alternative for me, since I didn't like either one of those shows, so that explains it.
 
"Stand back! I'm a published pugilist!"
:lol:

Man, things work fast at Tic Toc. Are we sure this is a government agency?
Well, they do have a time machine. "There, we've just submitted the forms six months ago."

Not bad. I assume he didn't expect to be plucked away by TT.
That's what I was thinking at first, but they didn't go there.

Tim is a real loose cannon. They should add him to the team.
I can just imagine him and Jerry in the same scene...!

He once wrote an editorial for the Tic Toc Employee News Bulletin about showing mercy.
Especially when you're time traveling to the past and you're really not sure if you should be killing this guy.

Well, that's an interesting development.
And continuing the trope of everyone being on board with meddling in history...though they are motivated to try to help Tony and Doug.

Hmm. This could be evidence in favor of Simulation Theory.
What, people actually believe that they're living in the Matrix? In terms of human history, virtual reality isn't even five minutes old.

They could all use a little vacation at this point. Oh, wait, that Reno.
:D

And now nobody will ever find him again.
But the whole purpose of being FINDed is to make it look like the victim had a heart attack.

Okay, so Spence happened to see Wyeth meet the flying saucer, which then crashed for no apparent reason,
The antimatter bomb was supposed to have been responsible for that...it was said to have cost lives because it was very dangerous to transport. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, but was supposed to get across that the aliens were sacrificing their own for this.
and when Spence reported this to Graves, Graves decided to contact famous UFO nut David Vincent for advice?
Something like that. I wasn't clear who Spence was supposed to be / if he was working at the test site, but he seemed to be a friend of Graves's.

Never get into a car with strangers, David.
"But they had badges and candy!"

"What is this, an Irwin Allen show?"
[David is promptly run over by the Shazamvan speeding through the shot.]

So they're going to replace the nuclear device with a conventional bomb to make the test look like a failure?
No, with the antimatter bomb.

A sympathetic collaborator who is a grade-A sucker.
:D

"Tolja so."
Think there's supposed to be a "d" in that.

I think nuclear weapon testing is a bit more complicated than that. :rommie:
Yeah, I was skeptical when it looked like the device was just going to be lowered into a pit. Doing some quick looking up, it seems that very early underground tests were done in relatively shallow holes in the ground, but by the late '50s they were 900 feet deep in prepared tunnels, though apparently vertical shafts are still used. Higher-yield devices are detonated thousands of feet underground.

"You are free to return to your wandering ways despite your involvement in the sabotage of a nuclear weapon test."
Graves would have had his back on that.

That does make some sense.
It resonates with what was going on at the time...we were fighting proxy wars with the other superpowers because the world couldn't afford us fighting direct wars with them.

I dunno, they could easily have been bluffing about their antimatter bomb.
Who would they be bluffing in this scenario? Beaumont?

And yet a good alternative for me, since I didn't like either one of those shows, so that explains it.
Such a nonconformist hipster type... :p
 
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Well, they do have a time machine. "There, we've just submitted the forms six months ago."
Now that's excellent use of the technology. :rommie:

I can just imagine him and Jerry in the same scene...!
Ah, the comedy team of Tim and Jerry. :rommie:

Especially when you're time traveling to the past and you're really not sure if you should be killing this guy.
True, it could even be his great-grandfather or something.

And continuing the trope of everyone being on board with meddling in history...though they are motivated to try to help Tony and Doug.
Seriously, these folks have no concept of butterflies.

What, people actually believe that they're living in the Matrix? In terms of human history, virtual reality isn't even five minutes old.
Yeah, but this is a historical simulation. In the real world, it's May 33rd, 212,564 AD and we're in the memory core of unit Delta Two of the Arcturus Dyson Swarm.

But the whole purpose of being FINDed is to make it look like the victim had a heart attack.
I thought they disappeared people too.

The antimatter bomb was supposed to have been responsible for that...it was said to have cost lives because it was very dangerous to transport. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, but was supposed to get across that the aliens were sacrificing their own for this.
And probably to make it unique so that they didn't have a new one popping up every week.

"But they had badges and candy!"
"And I was hungry and broke because I've been unemployable since I saw the flying saucer."

[David is promptly run over by the Shazamvan speeding through the shot.]
Face down into the quicksand.

No, with the antimatter bomb.
Okay, so they were actually going to detonate the antimatter bomb for real that day and not just try to hold the government hostage? And when the truck exploded it damaged this highly dangerous antimatter bomb beyond repair without setting it off? Why did They even want the antimatter bomb at the test site? They could have set it off anywhere if they were actually going to use it.

Think there's supposed to be a "d" in that.
Hm. That explains why it didn't pass spellcheck.

It resonates with what was going on at the time...we were fighting proxy wars with the other superpowers because the world couldn't afford us fighting direct wars with them.
True. WWIII loomed large.

Who would they be bluffing in this scenario? Beaumont?
Well, the government, using Beaumont as a tool.

Such a nonconformist hipster type... :p
I was hip before it was hip to be hip.
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50 Years Ago This Week


July 20
  • The comic strip Pogo ran for the last time, almost two years after the death of its creator, Walt Kelly, and 26 years after it was first published nationwide.

July 21
  • Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 went into effect in the United States, along with regulations from the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare, after which all American universities, colleges and schools that received federal funding were required to provide the same level of funding for women's and girls' sports programs as had been spent for men and boys.
  • The Parliament of India voted to approve Prime Minister Indira Gandhi's declaration of a state of emergency, with a 301-76 vote in the lower house and a 147-32 vote in the upper house.

July 22
  • Uprisings began across Afghanistan as the Mujahideen led an unsuccessful revolt against the government of President Mohammed Daoud Khan. The Islamist rebels attacked government headquarters in the provinces of Badakhshan, Laghman, Logar, and Panjshir.

July 23
  • Paul Allen and Bill Gates of "Micro-Soft," inventors of the Altair BASIC software program, written to be operated on the new Altair 8800 computer, signed a contract giving Altair manufacturer MITS the exclusive use of the software for ten years.
  • A bill to lift a ban on American weapons sales to Turkey failed 206-233 in the U.S. House of Representatives. Turkey's government would retaliate by closing American military bases there.

July 24
  • The Apollo space program came to an end as Thomas Stafford, Vance Brand, and Deke Slayton [returned to Earth], with parachutes bringing their space capsule down to a recovery on the Pacific Ocean. The "splashdown" would be the last water landing of a crewed space mission for more than 45 years, with cosmonauts landing their capsules in the desert, or astronauts landing on a runway in a space shuttle....The U.S. would not venture into space again until 1981.
  • Died: Barbara Colby, 35, American TV actress. Ms. Colby, who had just gotten her first major television role as a regular on the new TV show Phyllis, had completed filming of her third episode when she and actor James Kiernan were gunned down in a drive-by shooting. She died at the scene, and Kiernan died 40 minutes later. The killers were never apprehended.

July 25
  • The musical A Chorus Line began a fifteen-year run on Broadway, in the first of 6,137 performances at the Shubert Theatre.
  • The traditional price of five cents for a roundtrip ride on the Staten Island Ferry was brought to an end by a 34-2 vote of the New York City council. The new fare would be 25 cents.

July 26
  • China was able to place a satellite into orbit for the first time since 1971, and only the third time in its history, after April 24, 1970, and March 3, 1971. The Ji Shu Shiyan Weixing I was destroyed after 50 days in orbit.
  • "The Hustle" by Van McCoy, celebrating the most popular new dance in America, became the #1 song in the United States.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony
2. "I'm Not in Love," 10cc
3. "One of These Nights," Eagles
4. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John
5. "Listen to What the Man Said," Wings
6. "Swearin' to God," Frankie Valli
7. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
8. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
9. "Midnight Blue," Melissa Manchester
10. "Rockin' Chair," Gwen McCrae
11. "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka
12. "The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
13. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
14. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War
15. "The Rockford Files," Mike Post
16. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
17. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
18. "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band
19. "Every Time You Touch Me (I Get High)," Charlie Rich
20. "Mornin' Beautiful," Tony Orlando & Dawn
21. "Wildfire," Michael Murphey
22. "Slippery When Wet," Commodores
23. "Magic," Pilot
24. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
25. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
26. "Misty," Ray Stevens
27. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds

29. "Saturday Night Special," Lynyrd Skynyrd
30. "Just a Little Bit of You," Michael Jackson
31. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
32. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
33. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company
34. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
35. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
36. "Sweet Emotion," Aerosmith

38. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
39. "I'm Not Lisa," Jessi Colter
40. "Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins
41. "The Ballroom Blitz," Sweet

45. "Fame," David Bowie

47. "Love Won't Let Me Wait," Major Harris

51. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band

53. "Hey You," Bachman-Turner Overdrive
54. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers
55. "Get Down, Get Down (Get on the Floor)," Joe Simon

58. "Tush," ZZ Top

62. "Feelings," Morris Albert
63. "It's All Down to Goodnight Vienna," Ringo Starr

66. "Daisy Jane," America

68. "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates

71. "Thank God I'm a Country Boy," John Denver

78. "Dance with Me," Orleans
79. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters

82. "It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares

89. "Rocky," Austin Roberts

91. "Philadelphia Freedom," Elton John

Leaving the chart:
  • "Cut the Cake," Average White Band (15 weeks)
  • "I Don't Know Why," The Rolling Stones (6 weeks)
  • "Only Women [Bleed]," Alice Cooper (16 weeks)
  • "Sister Golden Hair," America (16 weeks)
  • "Take Me in Your Arms (Rock Me a Little While)," The Doobie Brothers (12 weeks)
  • "When Will I Be Loved," Linda Ronstadt (15 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters
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(July 19; #20 US; #1 R&B)

"(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
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(#15 US; #3 AC)

"It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares
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(#10 US; #2 Dance; #1 R&B)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month, with minor editing as needed.



Now that's excellent use of the technology. :rommie:
:D

Seriously, these folks have no concept of butterflies.
That one brief moment in the Pearl Harbor episode is the only time I've noticed that they've even acknowledged a need to let history happen.

Yeah, but this is a historical simulation. In the real world, it's May 33rd, 212,564 AD and we're in the memory core of unit Delta Two of the Arcturus Dyson Swarm.
Seems monumentally silly to me. Faddish conspiracy paranoia.

I thought they disappeared people too.
They might under the right circumstances, but the FIND has a specific effect that gives them a reason for using it.

And probably to make it unique so that they didn't have a new one popping up every week.
This is so.

"And I was hungry and broke because I've been unemployable since I saw the flying saucer."
I can only assume that his architecture firm was quite prosperous, that he's able to sustain himself on an indefinite leave with lots of travel involved. He might get a new source of income when his neighborhood alien-watch brigade is in place and he can charge them for autographs.

Face down into the quicksand.
Holy moly!

Okay, so they were actually going to detonate the antimatter bomb for real that day and not just try to hold the government hostage?
Yes, to cause the seismic effects; or at least that was my impression. Blackmail would be an odd situation because they'd need to have people in authority who believed them.

And when the truck exploded it damaged this highly dangerous antimatter bomb beyond repair without setting it off? Why did They even want the antimatter bomb at the test site? They could have set it off anywhere if they were actually going to use it.
A detail I left out, which again didn't make a lot of sense--but, hey, it's alien tech--is that the explosion wasn't more dangerous, presumably, than a large nuke if set off above ground. It was only underground that it could wreak global devastation.

Hm. That explains why it didn't pass spellcheck.
I've always seen it spelled "toldja," but a web search indicates that "tolja" is also widely recognized. Both set off the spell check.
 
The comic strip Pogo ran for the last time, almost two years after the death of its creator, Walt Kelly, and 26 years after it was first published nationwide.
None of the local papers ever ran Pogo, as far as I remember. I didn't get to read it until years later when I got some reprints-- maybe it was in Comics Revue, I don't remember. I think I mainly knew about it from the parody in MAD.

Paul Allen and Bill Gates of "Micro-Soft," inventors of the Altair BASIC software program, written to be operated on the new Altair 8800 computer, signed a contract giving Altair manufacturer MITS the exclusive use of the software for ten years.
That should be enough time to see if it catches on.

The U.S. would not venture into space again until 1981.
And would struggle for a long time. Very disappointing after the accomplishments of Apollo. To this day, the manned program isn't anywhere near what it should be.

Died: Barbara Colby, 35, American TV actress. Ms. Colby, who had just gotten her first major television role as a regular on the new TV show Phyllis, had completed filming of her third episode when she and actor James Kiernan were gunned down in a drive-by shooting. She died at the scene, and Kiernan died 40 minutes later. The killers were never apprehended.
So weird. I think I first heard about this in this thread.

"The Hustle" by Van McCoy, celebrating the most popular new dance in America, became the #1 song in the United States.
It was ubiquitous. As a result, it has strong nostalgic value, damn it. :rommie:

"How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters
I'm not familiar with this one, although I might have heard it on Lost 45s or Time-Life. It's okay.

"(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
Not their best, but okay. Moderate nostalgic value.

"It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares
This is one of two or three nice things that they did. Strong nostalgic value.

That one brief moment in the Pearl Harbor episode is the only time I've noticed that they've even acknowledged a need to let history happen.
It's weird that they seem to have no concept of altering the timeline.

Seems monumentally silly to me. Faddish conspiracy paranoia.
Well, it's certainly not impossible, just highly unlikely-- although one of the claims of its adherents is that it's a statistical certainty. :rommie:

I can only assume that his architecture firm was quite prosperous, that he's able to sustain himself on an indefinite leave with lots of travel involved. He might get a new source of income when his neighborhood alien-watch brigade is in place and he can charge them for autographs.
Maybe he sold out to Mike Brady and lives off the interest. :rommie:

Holy moly!
:rommie:

Yes, to cause the seismic effects; or at least that was my impression. Blackmail would be an odd situation because they'd need to have people in authority who believed them.
True, but if they intended to use it, why bother with all these other little plans and schemes? Also, even if the effects of the bomb were as mild as described, it would be a long time before the planet was habitable again.

A detail I left out, which again didn't make a lot of sense--but, hey, it's alien tech--is that the explosion wasn't more dangerous, presumably, than a large nuke if set off above ground. It was only underground that it could wreak global devastation.
That makes sense if they want to damage the crust and cause widespread volcanic activity, but an explosion massive enough to tilt the planet's axis would probably cause massive resurfacing and blow off enough of the atmosphere to reduce air pressure at sea level-- which would be replaced with carbon dioxide from the eruptions. It would take a long time for things to settle down into some sort of equilibrium. The only advantage I can see over nuclear war would be the lack of radioactive fallout.

I've always seen it spelled "toldja," but a web search indicates that "tolja" is also widely recognized. Both set off the spell check.
Well, neither are actually words. :rommie: The version with the "d" does actually look better when I see them side by side.
 
None of the local papers ever ran Pogo, as far as I remember. I didn't get to read it until years later when I got some reprints-- maybe it was in Comics Revue, I don't remember. I think I mainly knew about it from the parody in MAD.
Seems familiar to me, so my local paper of the time probably carried it.

And would struggle for a long time. Very disappointing after the accomplishments of Apollo. To this day, the manned program isn't anywhere near what it should be.
Could be worse...
Forbidden Planet introductory narration said:
In the final decade of the 21st Century, men and women in rocket ships landed on the moon.
Their JFK set the bar really low.

So weird. I think I first heard about this in this thread.
Looks like she came up previously for a couple of MTM appearances, but I can't recall her death having been discussed.

I'm not familiar with this one, although I might have heard it on Lost 45s or Time-Life. It's okay.
Pretty underwhelming selections this week. I have the 7-minute album version of this. Not a memorable classic.

Not their best, but okay. Moderate nostalgic value.
Meh.

This is one of two or three nice things that they did. Strong nostalgic value.
Had this as well, but it's pretty unfamiliar to me. Maybe has a very slight vibe of vague familiarity.

It's weird that they seem to have no concept of altering the timeline.
When I was reviewing episodes 2 through 5 as 50th anniversary business, I recall comparing it to Legends of Tomorrow, in which the characters at least made some requisite noise about not altering the timeline before they jumped in and started meddling in every situation they found themselves in.

Well, it's certainly not impossible, just highly unlikely-- although one of the claims of its adherents is that it's a statistical certainty. :rommie:
I've been programmed to roll my eyes way back in my head over that.

Maybe he sold out to Mike Brady and lives off the interest. :rommie:
Mike didn't own his own firm, but he might've sold out to Mike's boss.

True, but if they intended to use it, why bother with all these other little plans and schemes?
Maybe David's meddling motivated them to such desperate measures. Or, given the instability of the bomb, they weren't counting on it to get to Earth.

That makes sense if they want to damage the crust and cause widespread volcanic activity, but an explosion massive enough to tilt the planet's axis would probably cause massive resurfacing and blow off enough of the atmosphere to reduce air pressure at sea level-- which would be replaced with carbon dioxide from the eruptions.
Yeah, I was thinking that there'd have to be atmospheric effects.
 
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