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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

"Columbo Goes to College" was the first of what the DVD sets refer to as the "10th season" of Columbo, but it's actually more complicated than that. Up to this point, the Columbo revival had been airing as part of the ABC Mystery Movie, a relaunch of the old NBC "wheel" format with several different mystery movies rotating in the same weekly time slot. In the first season, Columbo was accompanied by Louis Gossett, Jr.'s Gideon Oliver and Burt Reynolds's B.L. Stryker; in the second, it was accompanied by a second season of Stryker, Jaclyn Smith's Christine Cromwell, and a brief revival of Telly Savalas's Kojak. But the wheel was cancelled in 1990, and only Columbo remained in production, with the new installments airing as intermittent TV movie specials rather than under the banner of a regular series.

And "Columbo Goes to College" is a good example of why this series deserved to continue. It's a strong episode, another format-bender with Columbo as a guest lecturer for a criminology professor who gets killed during his lecture. So it's unusual not only in that Columbo becomes acquainted with both victim and killers before the murder, and not only in that he's one of the people who discover the body, but in that he's actually used by the killers as their alibi, along with the other students who are genuinely eager to help him solve the case. Stephen Caffrey and Twin Peaks' Gary Hershberger are pretty effective as the killers, a pair of rich, privileged college students who believe they're entitled to literally get away with murder because they're smart enough, and who treat the entire process of leading Columbo astray as a big frat-boy prank. It's really kind of chilling to see such young people be so sociopathic.

It's also more of a mystery than usual, because we know who the killers are and why, but the how is kept a mystery until the end. I'd actually forgotten that aspect of it. Usually we're shown the killers' preparations and methods in detail, and the suspense is in finding out what tiny flaws in the plan Columbo will latch onto. Here, we're shown parts of the plan and the result, but we have to discover how it all fits together along with Columbo. It's a nice twist. Although it's kind of amusing in retrospect to see small, portable remote cameras treated as a novel breakthrough, and to see Columbo referring to a camera the size of a large flashlight as "this tiny thing." I do remember finding those cameras pretty impressive at the time, though. (My gosh, how did it get to be 17 years into the 21st century already?)

The movie also features the return of 3-time Columbo guest star Robert Culp -- who at the time was tied with Jack Cassidy for the most appearances on the show -- making his fourth appearance, which would be record-setting until Patrick McGoohan tied it in 1998. Although it's the first time Culp appears without playing the murderer, instead appearing as the father of one of the killers. Unfortunately, it's not one of his more interesting roles, a strident and hectoring attorney who treats Columbo as an idiot. It's a one-note, off-putting performance, and it raises a credibility issue, because by now, Columbo should have something of a reputation in police and legal circles, so it shouldn't be hard for Culp's character to determine that Columbo knows his stuff.
 
Hmm...sounds a bit, but not exactly, like the one from "The Hidden Tiger," which I reviewed a couple weeks ago:
I reckon that must be it. I guess I've just rewritten it in my mind over the years. Still pretty funny, though.

I actually thought about something like that...from something I read once about old horror movies, or maybe it was just Frankenstein, having a greenish film tinge. But that wouldn't have shown up on b&w TV, and they never would have done something like that in the NOW IN COLOR 1966-67 TV season.
Maybe "NOW WITH 100% MORE GREEN."

This was Briggs. Maybe he was canned by the IMF efficiency experts because he couldn't handle the upgrade to 5-second tapes.
He started to drop and roll every time he saw a kid with cassette and it was time to put him out to pasture.

The climactic fight includes a bizarre comical moment when a group of women pile up on Peel and they start flying out of the pile, presumably tossed by an unseen Emma (accompanied by a voiced-over line in which she says that she can handle herself).
I saw that one. Nice. :rommie:

In this case, there's a conspicuous dream sequence in the middle of the story, in which Honey imagines herself in the silent film era.
I'll have to dig that one out, too. I love stuff like that. I did watch the one with the "robot," which was pretty cool-- despite that conveniently placed super-magnet.

This one has the British airdate listed on IMDb...I suspect that Emma's fully bare midriff kept it off U.S. TV in the era of Barbara Eden's forbidden navel.
Probably. They should do an Avengers DVD set of all banned-in-the-States episodes. :rommie:

Surprisingly, as the entire episode would have been in my DVR buffer at the time, opting to record it midway through didn't result in a recording of the entire episode. Apparently the left chip doesn't know what the right chip is doing.
I may be making this up, but I think I might have read that it has to be less than halfway through for it to jump back to the beginning.
 
My gosh, how did it get to be 17 years into the 21st century already?
I had a similar feeling watching the first episode of Iron Fist. The precious childhood artifact that Danny Rand has been holding onto for the 15 years that he's been missing from civilization is...an iPod! :eek:

I reckon that must be it. I guess I've just rewritten it in my mind over the years. Still pretty funny, though.
Those scenes definitely go very far into absurd territory.

I've been finding myself mentally comparing The Avengers and TMFU. The former, by the era that I've been watching, is elevated by Steed and Peel's combined wit and charm. They're genuinely fun to watch even when the story material is weak or nonsensical. Whereas in TMFU, I'm just not quite getting the coolness factor from the regulars that you indicated. Solo alone can be fun to watch, he has charisma, if of an overly slick car salesman type. Kuryakin...I understand he was very popular with the young ladies at the time, but he just comes off as surly and bored. They don't elevate the often-rambling story material for me, and I find myself counting the act break cards to help me get through an episode.

ETA: I'd forgotten, I decided to add 12 O'Clock High to my recording queue to join the 1966-67 TV season sidelist business, but it won't factor into things for long. H&I is only showing one episode a week, and at the point I've started recording, they're into the back half of the show's shortened final season, which ended in Jan. 1967.
 
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I had a similar feeling watching the first episode of Iron Fist. The precious childhood artifact that Danny Rand has been holding onto for the 15 years that he's been missing from civilization is...an iPod! :eek:

Yeah, it threw me for a loop when I realized that 15 years ago was 2002. We're so... ollllddd.....


I've been finding myself mentally comparing The Avengers and TMFU. The former, by the era that I've been watching, is elevated by Steed and Peel's combined wit and charm. They're genuinely fun to watch even when the story material is weak or nonsensical. Whereas in TMFU, I'm just not quite getting the coolness factor from the regulars that you indicated. Solo alone can be fun to watch, he has charisma, if of an overly slick car salesman type. Kuryakin...I understand he was very popular with the young ladies at the time, but he just comes off as surly and bored. They don't elevate the often-rambling story material for me, and I find myself counting the act break cards to help me get through an episode.

When I was watching season 2, I couldn't shake the impression that Robert Vaughn and David McCallum hated each other. Their characters' rivalry certainly didn't feel friendly, and their interaction was surprisingly rare, with the two of them generally off doing separate things. They just didn't have the rapport of other spy duos like Steed and Mrs. Peel, Alexander Scott and Kelly Robinson, Maxwell Smart and 99, or Jim West and Artemus Gordon -- not to mention other heroic duos like Kirk and Spock or Batman and Robin.
 
They don't elevate the often-rambling story material for me, and I find myself counting the act break cards to help me get through an episode.

The Man from U.N.C.L.E. lived up to its origins: a poor man's Bond clone. I had to sit through several syndication eras to get through the run of the series, and frankly, the only reason any articles ever look on the series in any positive light has more to do with Baby Boomer nostalgia for the "out there" era productions (the inability to criticize anything from their ever-so-glorious childhood / adolescence--much like the case of Lost in Space fandom) than the series actually being good. Vaughn & McCallum were wasted on the series, with anyone capable of making a strong argument that both gave better performances before and after the run of TMFU, which says much about the material they had to work with on the spy show.
 
The Green Hornet
"Invasion from Outer Space: Part II"
Originally aired March 17, 1967


The alien invasion angle proves to be a waste...they could have done a good, straight episode about a rogue scientist hijacking a nuclear warhead without the silly outfits.

There's a reason behind that: with the well-advertised Batman crossover now in the rear-view mirror, Dozier attempted to add a fantasy element to the doctor's scheme as a way to make TGH a bit more colorful. Unfortunately, Dozier's bigger plans for the series were not going to see the light of day, thanks to ABC, so instead of opening a new chapter for TGH (if it was renewed), the alien part of "Invasion from Outer Space" seemed (to March, 1967 audiences) like a last-ditch effort to see what would hit in the fantasy department. Obviously, it did not. The overall plot was Cold War-era solid (if not somewhat overused by 1967) thanks to the villain's performance. This was not the gag-inducing silliness of Romero/Joker, Liberace/Chandell or Carney/Archer. Dr. Mabouse meant business and Larry D. Mann pulled it off.

And so ends The Green Hornet for me. The show definitely had its charms, and plenty of unrealized potential. I've said it before, but I feel that it really would have worked better in the black and white era, when its noirish elements could have been played up more, rather than in the exact moment when bright, pastel-colored TV was breaking out all over.

THG as a late 1960s series was fine; any Depression-era concept could be updated (like Batman in the 60s and Superman the Movie in the 70s), but one of the challenges TGH faced was a cynical network, typically thoughtless reviewers and some audience members who were quick to write it off as a pale version of Batman, when the series was never developed to be Bat-anything in tone and execution.

Despite its shortcomings, careful reviews of Batman & TGH sees the latter living up to its reason-to-be, while the former lost its adventure core and (in opportunistic / lazy fashion) sank into self-parody (not the original intent) with plots no more sophisticated than any random episode of Hanna-Barbera's Moby Dick and Mighty Mightor series of the same era.
 
Glad it's not just me concerning TMFU.
They just didn't have the rapport of other spy duos
I think that pretty much sums it up...no rapport. The three main regulars on the show (including Waverly) are each doing their own thing and don't really have any chemistry. Between Solo and Kuryakin, the entire vibe is "Do I have to work with this guy?" Compare and contrast with, say, Spock and McCoy, who are very outspoken rivals but highly entertaining as such, with each character being likable to the audience.

The overall plot was Cold War-era solid (if not somewhat overused by 1967) thanks to the villain's performance. This was not the gag-inducing silliness of Romero/Joker, Liberace/Chandell or Carney/Archer. Dr. Mabouse meant business and Larry D. Mann pulled it off.
Eh...Mabouse was bland, derivative, generic....He did nothing for me.

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Tarzan
"Eyes of the Lion"
Originally aired September 8, 1966
Wiki said:
When a blind girl's seeing eye lion is mistaken for a rogue, Tarzan must prove the beast's innocence.

Note the same premiere date as Star Trek on the same network. It would move to a regular slot of Fridays at 7:30, so I'd assume that on this auspicious date, the episode aired in the same timeslot, immediately before "The Man Trap".

In my casual background viewing of the series, this is one of two episodes I've seen that feature a female guest in some form of "jungle queen" attire...and neither is Jane, though she does appear in one episode as a fully-clothed civilized woman. The show does have Cheeta, though, as well as a boy companion named Jai. As mentioned before, I only got the last 22 minutes of this one, so if they presented any context for Tarzan and Jai's relationship, I missed it, but Jai was mainly hanging out with another character in this one, an older fellow in explorer garb. A bit of Googling tells me that Jai is an orphan and the older fellow, Jason Flood, is his tutor.

I was set to make an accusation of brownface on the female guest, but she's supposed to be a missionary's daughter and they show a photo of her as a child in which she's fair-haired and freckle-faced, so I have to assume that maybe they were just trying to give her an exotic tan. Also, the presence of the makeup seems to vary by shot in the same scene.

I'm going to try to see how many TOS guests I can spot in this series on a per-episode basis, as there always seemed to be a lot of them in my background viewing. I only stumbled across this one because I looked him up on IMDb:

Ned Romero (Krell in "A Private Little War")
He's playing a tribally dressed character named Oringa. I'm not sure what the character's ethnicity is supposed to be...I hope they weren't trying to pass him off as black, but as I missed 2/3 of the episode, I didn't catch any context that may have been provided in the character's introduction.

A lion fight! Don't know if it was made for the episode or repurposed footage. Tarzan wrasslin' one of them certainly isn't from a documentary--And in fact, something I found on Google indicated that Ron Ely insisted on doing his own stunts, and that included at least one lion fight! I guess this is before the days when they would have had a "No lions were harmed in the making of this episode" blurb in the end credits...but I spotted on IMDb that one of the other actors in the episode, who's credited with multiple on-camera roles, was also an animal handler for the show. That may not have been an uncommon double role for the production.

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Tarzan
"The Ultimate Weapon"
Originally aired September 16, 1966
Wiki said:
The vengeful son of an ivory poacher swears revenge on Tarzan.

Now on Fridays! This one shares no known guests with TOS, though my knowledge of TOS guests isn't encylopedic, so it's always possible that I'm missing somebody.

The first few episodes have a pre-credits voiceover sequence describing Tarzan that sounds like Skip Homeier, though I couldn't find who it actually is.
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One of the guests in this episode, Laurence Haddon, also has a similar voice.

I could say that is one of those examples of a half-hour episode premise expanded to fill an hour, but the execution felt organic. Yeah, it's hard to see multiple scenes of Cheeta's playful antics as anything but a source of filler. But when, say, a riverboat gets delayed by footage of a herd of elephants, or Tarzan has to detour around mating lions, it's the show giving the audience what they're looking for in a show like this.

Likewise, Tarzan's playing a shrewd, potentially dangerous game here, holding back on information that Peter wants so that Peter can figure out the circumstances of his father's death for himself and has a chance to find purpose in something other than seeking revenge.

Overall, the episode strikes a decent balance, giving the story beats some breathing room but still moving along at a good pace.

I still have no idea how the title fits the story, though. Maybe I missed a line. Is it a reference to knowledge being the ultimate weapon? When I Google that, I see results attributing the quote to an author who was born in 1971.

Hoby Wallington said:
Tarzan, you're probably the only marriage counselor in the world that lives in a tree.
That from a game warden character played by Jock Mahoney, a former silver screen Tarzan from some early '60s films.
 
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Those scenes definitely go very far into absurd territory.
Yeah, when I started watching it, it was well into surreal territory. It was very surprising to me to see how mainstream earlier seasons were.

Whereas in TMFU, I'm just not quite getting the coolness factor from the regulars that you indicated. Solo alone can be fun to watch, he has charisma, if of an overly slick car salesman type. Kuryakin...I understand he was very popular with the young ladies at the time, but he just comes off as surly and bored. They don't elevate the often-rambling story material for me, and I find myself counting the act break cards to help me get through an episode.
Interesting. Maybe it was because I saw it in the 60s and then never got to see it again until well into the 80s. To me it was all jet-setting international intrigue with a couple of cool characters whose world weariness was leavened by a touch of humor-- and I'm pretty sure I must have seen UNCLE before I saw any Bond.

ETA: I'd forgotten, I decided to add 12 O'Clock High to my recording queue to join the 1966-67 TV season sidelist business,
I remember seeing that, because my uncles would watch it, but I don't remember a thing about it. I never had any interest in war stuff.
 
Eh...Mabouse was bland, derivative, generic....He did nothing for me.

...then I don't know how you can sit through most of Batman's made for TV villains--especially in seasons 2 & 3.

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Tarzan
"Eyes of the Lion"
Originally aired September 8, 1966


I'm going to try to see how many TOS guests I can spot in this series on a per-episode basis, as there always seemed to be a lot of them in my background viewing. I only stumbled across this one because I looked him up on IMDb:[/quote]

I've spotted them before, and you will find many over the course of Tarzan's two seasons.
 
I remember seeing that, because my uncles would watch it, but I don't remember a thing about it. I never had any interest in war stuff.
It's another one of those things I've had on in the background but never really sat and watched. Me used to play it in the wee hours once a week.

A lot of the Weissmuller movies did the same thing, though. It was pretty much part of the Tarzan formula, I guess.
It's also occurred to me that the show was airing in the "family hour" slot, so it's understandable that they'd put in elements to make the kiddies laugh.

I've spotted them before, and you will find many over the course of Tarzan's two seasons.
That was my impression from my casual background viewing. I seem to have already blown my wishful theory that I might find one in every episode, but I still wouldn't be surprised if, when you add them all up, they average out to at least one an episode.

I've seen some pretty interesting non-Trek guest on the show as well...e.g., Geoffrey Holder; James Earl Jones; Diana Ross & The Supremes.

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The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

"The Her Master's Voice Affair"
Originally aired September 16, 1966
IMDb said:
A school on Long Island has a study body made up of teenagers of scientists and other prominent people. Thrush is secretly running the facility and programming the students to steal secrets from their parents. Kuryakin acts as bodyguard for the teenage daughter of a scientist while Solo gets inside the school.

Open Channel Dig the Doctor's Digs!

The Season 3 premiere follows a formula that seems quite common for the show...one of the agents babysits a (usually female) guest character while the other one infiltrates the enemy operation.

The line above that refers to the cool house set for the Matsu family...it looks like somebody was channeling Ken Adam. I'm pretty sure I've seen the room with the circular ceiling dressed differently in other episodes, but this particular set struck me...and to sweeten the deal, it comes with a console hi-fi with a record player that folds into the front!

Makes you wonder why the UNCLE HQ set looks like a large closet. (Yeah, I've seen walk-in closets with windows.) Heck, the attic that Napoleon hides in for part of this episode has more character than the UNCLE set.

Guests include Estelle (Aunt Hilda from Batman) Winwood, and Victoria (one of Brian Keith's wives) Young as Miki Matsu...who drops a "Herman & The Hermits" reference. Since I'm a general aficionado of the popular music of the era, I'll give her a pass for not choosing one of the many stronger acts available then...but using the outdated version of their name is a bit grating.

THRUSH is interested in Miki because her father is doing research on...well, see for yourself....
Dr. Matsu's report on the effects of gamma radiation said:
The developments likely to emerge can serve as a powerful force for good or for evil.
I predict a major breakthrough on that front coming in about a decade or so.
 
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Makes you wonder why the UNCLE HQ set looks like a large closet. (Yeah, I've seen walk-in closets with windows.) Heck, the attic that Napoleon hides in for part of this episode has more character than the UNCLE set.

Well, minimalism was a big thing in design in the '60s -- it was a major influence on Star Trek's design, for instance. Perhaps the simplicity of UNCLE HQ was a design statement in itself -- this is a no-nonsense, functional, efficient organization, standardized and uniform wherever it's found. The same HQ set was used for all UNCLE HQs throughout the world. The "character" is saved for the exterior facades, like Del Floria's Tailor Shop.
 
Minimal doesn't have to be boring, though. I was vaguely aware that it was supposed to be the same set in different locations, but that just brings up another question--Were Solo and Kuryakin the only agents that Waverly directed, the way he was always jetting around to wherever they were being assigned? Seems a bit Daily Planet-scale.

Adam-12, "Log 56: Vice Versa" (Mar. 11, 1971): I think it's a hoot that after the better part of three years, they based an episode around Reed getting to drive! :lol:

Very brief guest appearance by Keye Luke as a citizen who finds a baby in a garbage can. :(
 
Minimal doesn't have to be boring, though. I was vaguely aware that it was supposed to be the same set in different locations, but that just brings up another question--Were Solo and Kuryakin the only agents that Waverly directed, the way he was always jetting around to wherever they were being assigned? Seems a bit Daily Planet-scale.

Pretty sure we did see other American UNCLE agents under Waverly in various episodes, at least in season 1-2. And aside from the field agents, there were, of course, various staffers working within the office, like the researchers, computer techs, and communications staff. In the pilot, Illya was just part of the supporting staff in HQ, but he was popular enough to be made a regular thereafter. (That's why it wasn't called The Men from U.N.C.L.E.)
 
I've been watching Have Gun, Will Travel. Paladin is one of my favorite characters in the whole vintage western mythos.

Kor
 
That's why it wasn't called The Men from U.N.C.L.E.
Didn't know that...I was assuming that the title was meant to apply to either character. H&I just got back to the beginning of the series, so for now I'm recording just the first few episodes out of curiosity, though I don't know when I'll get around to them. Stopped at #3 because Anne Francis is in it.

I've been watching Have Gun, Will Travel. Paladin is one of my favorite characters in the whole vintage western mythos.
I've seen the odd episode on H&I Sundays, but that's another one I'll probably want to pay more attention to at some later time when I've got less shows going on.

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Tarzan
"Leopard on the Loose"
Originally aired September 23, 1966
Wiki said:
A post worker desperate for money kidnaps Jai's pet leopard.

I had to scrounge around the cast's IMDb pages to spot him, but this one does have a TOS guest:

Morgan Jones (Col. Nesvig, "Assignment: Earth")
It's more fun when they're somebody I'd recognize, though.

In a TV landscape littered with spotty child acting, Manuel Padilla Jr. isn't half bad as Jai. There's a scene that ends with him saying, "Boy, I'm having a terrible childhood," which got a good laugh out of me just on the delivery.

Cheeta earns his keep a bit in this one by helping Tarzan escape from a pit...though his moment of heroism throwing down Tarzan's knife happens off-camera and between scenes.

There's another recurring character in the early episodes, Rockne Tarkington as Rao, the village veterinarian. It looks like he gets dropped about the same time as Jason Flood--neither make it past the seventh episode, though Tarkington will be back in other roles.

Overall, I'm enjoying this series. The stories aren't terribly challenging, but they're straightforward, which is a nice contrast to the "Can I make it through this mess?" of TMFU. And it's a very pretty show...outdoor shooting, wildlife footage, live animals, lots of extras filling the scenes. I read that the series was very expensive and took an unusual amount of time to shoot per-episode, and it shows.
 
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I've been watching Andy Griffith reruns on MeTV. I never paid much attention to them when I was growing up but some of those episodes are really good. I got a kick out of the 'haunted house' one.
 
Were Solo and Kuryakin the only agents that Waverly directed, the way he was always jetting around to wherever they were being assigned? Seems a bit Daily Planet-scale.
Waverly was supposed to have been retired about thirty years earlier, but they couldn't bring themselves to do it, so they gave him a little minimalist secret headquarters and assigned him a couple of minor agents who didn't even like each other, with harmless assignments like hang around with Sonny and Cher.

I've been watching Have Gun, Will Travel. Paladin is one of my favorite characters in the whole vintage western mythos.
Same here. That's easily the best Western series ever.

There's a scene that ends with him saying, "Boy, I'm having a terrible childhood," which got a good laugh out of me just on the delivery.
They should just have him say "Boy" all the time. That would be funny right there. :rommie:

I've been watching Andy Griffith reruns on MeTV. I never paid much attention to them when I was growing up but some of those episodes are really good. I got a kick out of the 'haunted house' one.
It's a pretty good show. It never clicked with me like some other shows for some reason, but it's nice enough.
 
Waverly was supposed to have been retired about thirty years earlier
He looks like it.

They should just have him say "Boy" all the time.
That reminds me, I should point out for those who aren't familiar with the show that this is an educated, well-spoken version of Tarzan, so no pidgin English, he talks in complete sentences.

Adam-12, "Log 106: Post Time" (Mar. 18, 1971): Great shades of Elvis--Malloy's eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich! An A-12 rule: If Reed requests a code 7, the dispatcher's going to have something for them to do. If she doesn't, there'll probably be trouble at the diner. Very Recognizable Special Guest: Morey Amsterdam.
 
He looks like it.
Yeah, but he always looked like that. :rommie:

An A-12 rule: If Reed requests a code 7, the dispatcher's going to have something for them to do.
They should have done an episode that was set back at the base. "There's Reed and Malloy trying to take another break. Give them one of those domestic disputes that are backing up."
 
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