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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Fantasy. If you can buy Batman and Robin having an atomic reactor beneath Wayne Manor (not to mention details such as how they acquired ANY of the materials legally without getting a rather dark visit from every national security agency imaginable), then you can buy lifemasks working over the immobile mask.
Not really, for my money...one is a big, broad background detail that can be taken as part of the larger-than-life, tongue-in-cheek nature of the show. The other is more of a specific, common-sense detail that draws a lot of attention to itself.

particularly in the shot of a gassed Batman seeing (all too late) the laughing False Face creeping behind him in the candy machine's mirrored surface.
Ah yes, that was an effective shot.
 
Remind me who played Superman in the 60s episodes of Batman?

Between aliens and time travel, Bruce would have quickly switched out the Atomic Pile under Stately Wayne Manor with something a lot more powerful and safer, even if they couldn't find a trustworthy graphic designer to change the signage.
 
Guy Gardener said:
Remind me who played Superman in the 60s episodes of Batman?

Nobody. I don't think there were any mass-media Batman-Superman team-ups between the '40s radio series and Super Friends. They both appeared in Filmation's Batman/Superman Hour in 1968, but in separate cartoons.
 
And part of the gimmick here is that we weren't supposed to know who the actor was...he was billed as "? as False Face."
Yes, in part one and in the opening credits of part two -- reportedly, it infuriated actor Malachi Throne that he was not properly credited, although TV Guide and similar national publications did list the actor for both parts.
Malachi Throne was a fairly unknown actor at the time, so when his name was finally revealed, I was scratching my head and saying, "Who??" I didn't even know how to pronounce his name -- I thought his first name rhymed with Hitachi and his last name was Thorne!
 
Malachi Throne was a fairly unknown actor at the time, so when his name was finally revealed, I was scratching my head and saying, "Who??" I didn't even know how to pronounce his name -- I thought his first name rhymed with Hitachi and his last name was Thorne!

Actually, his face was familiar as a longtime character actor--one of the reasons he was cast as False Face. Remember, at the time of this episode's production, the series was all about casting known and/or celebrities as villains, and viewers knew him as a guest on such popular series as Combat!, The Outer Limits, The Fugitive, Perry Mason, The Untouchables, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., Naked City...and more, so he was not some unknown actor.
 
. . . Remember, at the time of this episode's production, the series was all about casting known and/or celebrities as villains, and viewers knew him as a guest on such popular series as Combat!, The Outer Limits, The Fugitive, Perry Mason, The Untouchables, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., Naked City...and more, so he was not some unknown actor.
Well, I hadn't heard of him. :shrug:
 
I stumbled on another retro channel on the dial. I'm not sure if it's new or if I just never noticed it before. It's called Laff and it's all sitcoms, except on weekends when they show movies. I didn't see anything on their schedule that's of particular interest to me (although I may be able to track down an episode of Empty Nest that my Mother wants to see again), but others here may see something on there that they like.
 
The Green Hornet
"The Ray Is for Killing"
Originally aired November 11, 1966

To help explain the exotic weapon used by this week's villains, I've gotten an expert in the period of the show:

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I see. And how much were the villains who had this..."laser"...asking Britt Reid to pay them?

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It didn't make a lot of sense that Richardson let Casey see him, unless he was planning on offing her. And the episode ends with Mike bitching about not getting a raise...greedy bastard, pretty sure he just got one a few weeks ago.

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ETA: RIP to Robert Vaughn, who passed away yesterday at 83. I haven't been doing reviews, but I've recently been working Season 3 episodes of The Man from UNCLE into my 50th anniversary rewatches.

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Batman
"The Purr-fect Crime"
Originally aired March 16, 1966​
"Better Luck Next Time"
Originally aired March 17, 1966​

Holy Where No Man Has Gone Before--3D chess!

Most of the female foes so far, like Zelda, Suzie, and Blaze, have turned out to be not all that bad, and the rest have just been subordinates.
I'd argue that Suzie and Blaze fall into that subordinates role...they're molls at best, not top-billed, name villains.

Interesting story structure. The deathtraps are usually wrapped up in the first couple of minutes of part 2, but here the peril stretched out for the whole first act, and there was that unusual use of narration not merely to set the scene, but to explain Batman's action.
Noticed both of those things, particularly the ambitious use of the Catacomb with its myriad traps spread across the first and second parts. Other novelties--the driver's perspective of Batmobile tearing out of the cave (they might have used that before, but it jumped at me this time), and we get to see Robin gassing up the car. (You'd think he'd want to wear a protective suit for that.)

When Robin's on the weighted fulcrum trap, wouldn't he seem to weigh more when he's pushing himself up on the lever?

To the Bat Research Shelf!

That was a pretty underwhelming treasure chest to base a two-part installment around. It doesn't have to be Smaug-scale, but at least show us a decent-sized trunk.

And I can't help feeling that the climax to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade totally cribbed from this.
And IIRC, this won't be the last time that Catwoman falls to an ambiguous fate at the end of one of her installments. Not sure why they kept playing that angle.

I wonder if the the then-recent debut of The Avengers on American TV played a role in bringing a catsuited villainess to the show? Note that it was a departure from Catwoman's traditional look in the comics at that point.
 
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I'd argue that Suzie and Blaze fall into that subordinates role...they're molls at best, not top-billed, name villains.

Nominally, yes, but they had larger roles in the stories than the others, which is what I meant. Blaze in particular carried a lot of the story because False Face was often unseen or stuck behind a mask. So yes, they were all subordinates, but these two were not just subordinates, because there was more to their story role than that. The others were just subordinates because they didn't have a major story role. "Just" in the sense of "only this and nothing more."


And IIRC, this won't be the last time that Catwoman falls to an ambiguous fate at the end of one of her installments. Not sure why they kept playing that angle.

Cat. Nine lives. Seems pretty self-explanatory. Tim Burton did the same thing several times in one movie.

Although, in the comics, it's traditionally the Joker who's the Blofeld-style villain who keeps apparently dying and then being inexplicably resurrected.


I wonder if the the then-recent debut of The Avengers on American TV played a role in bringing a catsuited villainess to the show? Note that it was a departure from Catwoman's traditional look in the comics at that point.

I find it amusing that Batgirl and Catwoman basically switched color schemes on the show. In the comics, Catwoman wore a purple dress and cowl with a green cape, while Batgirl wore black tights with a yellow belt and chest symbol (and a blue-black cape and cowl). On TV, Batgirl wore purple tights and cowl with a yellow cape, while Catwoman wore a black catsuit with a gold belt and medallion.
 
Batman
"The Purr-fect Crime"
Originally aired March 16, 1966​
"Better Luck Next Time"
Originally aired March 17, 1966​

Julie Newmar's debut as The Catwoman--still the best live action version of the character, 50 years and running.

As mentioned last week, Batman was on a roll--three months in and it was already a pop culture phenomenon. The quality of this Ross & Orgel-penned is all the evidence one would need to know why.

Noticed both of those things, particularly the ambitious use of the Catacomb with its myriad traps spread across the first and second parts.

Notice the lighting choices in this episode--still going for the dramatic / striking look, with nighttime scenes, the museum and Catwoman's lair.

That was a pretty underwhelming treasure chest to base a two-part installment around. It doesn't have to be Smaug-scale, but at least show us a decent-sized trunk.

To paraphrase Yoda, size matters not. In real life, some individual, once lost jewels have been valued in the millions, and this 2-parter is clearly selling the contents of the chest as being in that value class.

And IIRC, this won't be the last time that Catwoman falls to an ambiguous fate at the end of one of her installments. Not sure why they kept playing that angle.

Well, they did not play that often--in fact, it only happened one more time--in Newmar's penultimate episode, "Scat, Darn Catwoman" (1/25/1967).

I wonder if the the then-recent debut of The Avengers on American TV played a role in bringing a catsuited villainess to the show? Note that it was a departure from Catwoman's traditional look in the comics at that point.

No. Dozier wanted Catwoman from the start, and if you notice the animated main title, a "Catwoman" is part of the second gang of villains moving from right to left.

As introduced, the Catwoman was a strong female character--a 60s stand out for several reasons, including the fact that she was a master criminal who only seem to needed males as her henchmen, cracked a whip at those who were disobedient, and with angry confidence, proclaimed that unlike all other villains, she knew the way to defeat Batman and Robin. Of the main Rogue's Gallery set, only Mr. Freeze and The Penguin's introductions matched her calculating nature.

Moreover, such a strong female character stands as one of the most glaring contrast to the silly, dated Batgirl some two season later.

Jock Mahoney (Leo) would return to Batman in the third season episode, "I'll Be a Mummy's Uncle" (as H.L. Hunter) and in real life was Sally Field's stepfather. Reportedly, he was verbally & physically abusive to her.
 
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No. Dozier wanted Catwoman from the start, and if you notice the animated main title, a "Catwoman" is part of the second gang of villains moving from right to left.
I was wondering more about how they depicted her by the time she made it onscreen. The catsuit was a departure from her traditional comic book appearance at that point...and from what I can tell online, The Avengers started airing in the U.S. in the fall of '65. Did Emma Peel inspire Batman's costuming of Catwoman?
 
I was wondering more about how they depicted her by the time she made it onscreen. The catsuit was a departure from her traditional comic book appearance at that point...and from what I can tell online, The Avengers started airing in the U.S. in the fall of '65. Did Emma Peel inspire Batman's costuming of Catwoman?

I've seen no documents saying Emma Peel's costume was an influence.. Considering that Newmar was hired (in part) for her wonderful physical gifts, I would imagine a series drawing some of its power from being visually striking would naturally move toward giving her a costume that only took advantage of her form, but presented a sleek appearance like a black cat.
 
The catsuit was a departure from her traditional comic book appearance at that point...and from what I can tell online, The Avengers started airing in the U.S. in the fall of '65. Did Emma Peel inspire Batman's costuming of Catwoman?

Possibly, but it could also just be that both shows were following the fashion trends of the day.

TREK_GOD_1 said:
Considering that Newmar was hired (in part) for her wonderful physical gifts, I would imagine a series drawing some of its power from being visually striking would naturally move toward giving her a costume that only took advantage of her form, but presented a sleek appearance like a black cat.

I'll give you the black color, but the classic Catwoman costume included a plunging neckline and a dress slit to the hip on both sides, so it certainly would've shown off her form quite well. If anything, maybe too well? Perhaps something that showed off more curves but less skin was deemed an acceptable trade-off for TV broadcast standards.

As for why they left off the cowl, I assume that's because they didn't want to hide their actress's lovely face more than they had to. Although they made a different decision with Batgirl, obviously.
 
Possibly, but it could also just be that both shows were following the fashion trends of the day.
That would be the heart of my question--Did Emma Peel play a key role in setting that particular trend, at least in America? (Of course, on British TV she was taking over from Honor Blackman's character in the catsuit-wearing department.)
 
That would be the heart of my question--Did Emma Peel play a key role in setting that particular trend, at least in America?

I did a bit of digging, and it looks like it's hard to separate the Emma Peel influence from the larger fashion influence. It was sort of both at once.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/sports-...othing-jewelry-and-personal-adornment/catsuit
Catsuits first took off in 1964 when the French designer André Courreges (1923–) introduced his Space Age collection. Intended to capture the public imagination inspired by the space program, Courreges' designs included futuristic plastic goggles, silver moon boots, and astronaut helmets. But the centerpiece of his women's line was the knitted, long-sleeved, one-piece catsuit. Made out of synthetic, or man-made, material and so named because of its slinky fit, it became one of the signature women's garments of the 1960s. Other designers, most notably Pierre Cardin (1922–), also began creating bodysuits that drew on Courreges' futuristic design.

Comic book heroes Superman and Batman had worn variations on the catsuit for years, of course, so it was no great leap when female superheroines began turning up in them. In the United States the television series Batman provided a weekly forum for catsuit style, beginning in 1967. Catwoman and Batgirl each sported patent leather bodysuits designed to emphasize the power and confidence of the newly liberated female. But perhaps the most famous catsuit wearer of all was the British TV super-heroine Emma Peel of the series The Avengers (1961–69). As portrayed by actress Diana Rigg (1938–), Mrs. Peel epitomized the swinging 1960s vixen in her cutout black leather catsuit, created for her by the program's costumers John Bates and Alun Hughes. After Rigg wore a wetsuit-type catsuit on the show, designers everywhere copied the sleek look.

The article gets the Batman premiere date wrong, but otherwise it seems to track with what else I can find. The style didn't start with Mrs. Peel, but she certainly helped popularize it. So it may be impossible to say whether it was directly because of her or not.
 
Thanks for digging. I'm not sure when exactly in the series she started wearing the catsuits, but as Honor Blackman was on the show ca. 1962-1964, and reportedly caused quite a stir in Europe for her look, I'd be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for playing a key role in starting the trend, which Cathy Gale's Wiki page gives her credit for. Note that the series page reports that Blackman's boots played a role in the titling of the show in France.
 
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