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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Dejah Thoris's boyfriend.
Guess-Capped.

Yeah, Howard is not exactly the picture of responsibility.
He's pretty young.

Sounds reminiscent of last week's conveyor belt incident.
In this case, the other kid was accidentally buried and had to be dug out.

Even the pets on this show are clumsy oafs. :rommie:
I knew you'd pick on the poor puppy!

Then an earthquake strikes, setting off a brush fire that blocks Howard's escape from the buffalo stampede!
No lightning? :lol:

Now that would have been cool. :rommie:
It is accurate that they traded places, but not in such a paranormal way.

Did the kid lose the ability to write, too?
Well, it was a psychological issue.

It might have been a bit more dramatically touching if he had recovered his voice when daddy was actually in danger.
Probably.

Does Cap generally interact with Mentor? This seems like a new thing.
They're often together in the climax.

Johnny: "Say, you look familiar."
It was odd seeing them in the same scene together, the resemblance being so obvious.
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"No! The Church of the FSM forbids D5W!"
Had to look that one up.

Cost? Quality? Fuel efficiency?
Age and maintenance.

I seem to remember posting my foolproof hiccup cure here a while back.
Did you? I don't recall.

Indeed. She could put that office, authority, and higher paycheck to good use. :rommie:
Now would her position really come with such a nice office? It's nicer than Brackett's.

"Johnny, have you ever seen a 7'2" basketball player naked?"

Do they ever mention the player's name? Is it implied to be Kareem or just a Webbverse alternative?
Nope, and the firefighters didn't seem to recognize him.

This sounds like a pretty impressive sequence. I wonder how they managed to film it.
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I was disappointed that the car didn't fall into the drink after they rescued her.

Awkward. I wonder why. Maybe the actress they hired didn't show up or something.
A stuntperson was really all they needed for the sequence. There were no closeups of her.

It's all in the delivery. :rommie:
As with this bit, which I forgot to quote...

Jerry (re. Don): Can you believe that clown?​
Bob: Jerry, I-I don't know why you call him a clown. Just because he, uh, he walks funny, and his...his pants are kind of baggy, and...people laugh at him, I mean, that doesn't mean he's a clown.​

Actually, that would be "The 59th Street Bridge Song,"
Interesting...I don't know if that ever came up before.

Damn. It's clearly been way too long since I actually watched TOS.
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I watched it briefly when it was faddish and my Sister was obsessed with it. I didn't realize they were supposed to be teenagers.
Well, Genie Francis would have been 19 at the time of the famous marriage; Anthony Geary was 34.

It was on in my house, too, but I wasn't paying much attention.
 
Well, Genie Francis would have been 19 at the time of the famous marriage; Anthony Geary was 34.

It was on in my house, too, but I wasn't paying much attention.
I don't think Luke (Geary) was meant to be a teenager, but not a guy in his thirties either. Probably twentysomething.
 
Guess-Capped.
:D

He's pretty young.
True.

In this case, the other kid was accidentally buried and had to be dug out.
Okay, yeah, that's traumatic.

I knew you'd pick on the poor puppy!
Animals get equal treatment. :rommie:

No lightning? :lol:
The episode ran long. :rommie:

Well, it was a psychological issue.
Hmm, I wonder if it does extend to writing, though. I'll have to research that.

Had to look that one up.
I thought the good old FSM was pretty well known by now. :rommie:

Age and maintenance.
Good point. They are expensive to maintain.

Did you? I don't recall.
I thought I did. Basically, you hold both hands in front of you so that your index fingers are pointing at each other. You let your eyes go lazy so that you're seeing double. Then you bring your hands very slowly closer together so that it looks like there's a disembodied piece of finger floating in mid air. It should look like this:

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Now would her position really come with such a nice office? It's nicer than Brackett's.
Could be. It sounded like she would be the head of nursing for the whole hospital, whereas he seems to be just head of the ER.

"Johnny, have you ever seen a 7'2" basketball player naked?"
"Not all at once."

Impressive. It's got to be a set that was built for some movie or something. I don't see them getting permission to shoot something like that on location.

As with this bit, which I forgot to quote...

Jerry (re. Don): Can you believe that clown?
Bob: Jerry, I-I don't know why you call him a clown. Just because he, uh, he walks funny, and his...his pants are kind of baggy, and...people laugh at him, I mean, that doesn't mean he's a clown.
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Interesting...I don't know if that ever came up before.
It must have. Probably a long time ago, though.

Weird. Even after seeing the screencaps, I still associate it with the magic tears and locking herself in the bathroom.

Well, Genie Francis would have been 19 at the time of the famous marriage; Anthony Geary was 34.
Okay, that's a little weird. I also forgot to mention that Genie Francis has been married to Jonathan Frakes since forever (and yet has somehow never popped up in Star Trek).
 
50 Years Ago This Week


November 24
  • The remains of "Lucy", a female hominid from the species Australopithecus afarensis, were discovered in Ethiopia by paleoanthropologist Donald Johanson. Found in the Awash Valley of the Ethiopia's Afar Triangle near the town of Hadar, "Lucy" (officially "AL 288-1"), whose remains were carbon dated at 3.2 million years old, was the earliest example of an ancestor of homo sapiens who could walk upright on two feet.
  • In Vladivostok in the Soviet Union, U.S. President Gerald Ford and Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev signed a Joint Communiqué pledging to limit both nations to an "agreed aggregate number" of nuclear missiles, with a specified number of strategic nuclear delivery vehicles (SNDVs), intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) fitted with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs).

November 25
  • The first "double heart" transplant on a human being was performed at the Groote Schuur Hospital in Cape Town, South Africa, by Dr. Christiaan Barnard, introducing a new technique of supplementing a diseased heart with a donor heart that "takes the brunt of pumping the blood through the body" while "the blood still passes through the patient's original heart." The first recipient, Ivan Taylor, received the donor heart of a 10-year-old girl. Taylor survived for four and a half months, dying on April 5, 1975.
  • Four days after the Birmingham pub bombings, the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) terrorist group carried out the placing of time bombs in and near letter dropboxes across London, each placed inside a pillar box. The first gelignite bomb exploded at a box at Caledonian Road at King's Cross. Ten minutes later, a bomb at the Piccadilly Circus road injured 16 people. Two days later, a larger bomb at a pillar box on Tite Street in Chelsea injured 20 people, including nine first responders.
  • Nick Drake, 26, British musician, died of an overdose of amitriptyline.

November 26
  • Japan's Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka announced his resignation after an invesigative committee of Japan's House of Representatives, the Diet, was preparing to call Aki Sato as a witness. Tanaka and Ms. Sato had been having a romantic relationship for many years. The announcement was made by Chief Cabinet Secretary (and future Prime Minister) Noboru Takeshita.

November 27
  • In Punjab, India, about 100 people were injured in a clash between police and 6,000 student demonstrators.

November 28
  • Singer John Lennon gave his final live musical performance, appearing at New York's Madison Square Garden as the guest of Elton John.
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  • By chance, Yoko Ono was in the audience, and she and John met backstage for the first time in months.

November 29

November 30
  • U.S. President Ford attended the 75th Army–Navy Game at John F. Kennedy Stadium in Philadelphia. Navy defeated Army by a score of 19–0.
  • U.S. Representative Wilbur Mills of Ohio, Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, caused an embarrassing scene when he arrived, intoxicated, at The Pilgrim Theatre in Boston, and walked on the stage where his mistress, Fanne Foxe, was performing as a stripper. The scandal followed an October 7 incident where he and Foxe were stopped by police of the U.S. Park Service while he was drunk. Mills stepped down as the Ways and Means Committee Chairman days later and retired from Congress after choosing not to run for re-election in 1976.

Also, George Harrison played in Houston, Baton Rogue, Memphis, Atlanta (his Thanksgiving show), and Chicago.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "I Can Help," Billy Swan
2. "Kung Fu Fighting," Carl Douglas
3. "When Will I See You Again," The Three Degrees
4. "Do It ('Til You're Satisfied)," B. T. Express
5. "Longfellow Serenade," Neil Diamond
6. "Everlasting Love," Carl Carlton
7. "My Melody of Love," Bobby Vinton
8. "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" / "Free Wheelin'", Bachman-Turner Overdrive
9. "Cat's in the Cradle," Harry Chapin
10. "Angie Baby," Helen Reddy
11. "Wishing You Were Here," Chicago
12. "I've Got the Music in Me," The Kiki Dee Band
13. "Sha-La-La (Make Me Happy)," Al Green
14. "Back Home Again," John Denver
15. "Junior's Farm" / "Sally G", Paul McCartney & Wings
16. "You Got the Love," Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
17. "You're the First, the Last, My Everything," Barry White
18. "Promised Land," Elvis Presley
19. "Touch Me," Fancy
20. "Fairytale," The Pointer Sisters
21. "Whatever Gets You Thru the Night," John Lennon w/ The Plastic Ono Nuclear Band

23. "I Feel a Song (In My Heart)" / "Don't Burn Down the Bridge", Gladys Knight & The Pips
24. "Laughter in the Rain," Neil Sedaka
25. "Tin Man," America

27. "Ain't Too Proud to Beg," The Rolling Stones

29. "The Need to Be," Jim Weatherly
30. "Must of Got Lost," J. Geils Band

32. "Willie and the Hand Jive," Eric Clapton
33. "Jazzman," Carole King
34. "Only You," Ringo Starr
35. "Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)," Reunion

37. "One Man Woman / One Woman Man," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
38. "Boogie on Reggae Woman," Stevie Wonder

40. "Bungle in the Jungle," Jethro Tull

42. "Rockin' Soul," The Hues Corporation

44. "Never Can Say Goodbye," Gloria Gaynor

47. "Mandy," Barry Manilow
48. "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," Elton John

52. "Morning Side of the Mountain," Donny & Marie Osmond
53. "Dark Horse," George Harrison
54. "La La Peace Song," Al Wilson

56. "Please Mr. Postman," Carpenters
57. "Dancin' Fool," The Guess Who

59. "Love Don't Love Nobody, Pt. 1" The Spinners

64. "Carefree Highway," Gordon Lightfoot
65. "You Haven't Done Nothin'," Stevie Wonder

72. "The Bitch Is Back," Elton John

76. "Free Bird," Lynyrd Skynyrd

78. "Get Dancin'," Disco-Tex & The Sex-O-Lettes feat. Sir Monti Rock III
79. "Doctor's Orders," Carol Douglas

81. "The Entertainer," Billy Joel

83. "Best of My Love," Eagles

85. "From His Woman to You," Barbara Mason


90. "My Eyes Adored You," Frankie Valli

95. "Overnight Sensation (Hit Record)," Raspberries
96. "Do It Baby," The Miracles

100. "Then Came You," Dionne Warwick & The Spinners


Leaving the chart:
  • "Can't Get Enough," Bad Company (15 weeks)
  • "Distant Lover," Marvin Gaye (9 weeks)
  • "I Honestly Love You," Olivia Newton-John (15 weeks)
  • "Love Me for a Reason," The Osmonds (13 weeks)
  • "Stop and Smell the Roses," Mac Davis (14 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"Dark Horse," George Harrison
(Nov. 23; #15 US; #52 UK)

"Doctor's Orders," Carol Douglas
(#11 US; #42 AC; #2 Dance; #9 R&B)

"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," Elton John (feat. the Reggae guitars of Dr. Winston O'Boogie)
(#1 US the weeks of Jan. 4 and 11, 1975; #10 UK)

"Best of My Love," Eagles
(#1 US the week of Mar. 1, 1975; #1 AC; #51 UK)


And new on the boob tube:
  • M*A*S*H, "Adam's Ribs"
  • Hawaii Five-O, "A Gun for McGarrett"
  • The Odd Couple, "The Big Broadcast"
  • The Six Million Dollar Man, "Act of Piracy"
  • Planet of the Apes, "The Cure"
  • Shazam!, "The Braggart"
  • All in the Family, "George and Archie Make a Deal"
  • Emergency!, "The Firehouse Four"
  • The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "A Son for Murray"
  • The Bob Newhart Show, "We Love You...Good-bye"



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.



All this talk of Lucys and Thanksgiving...

The episode ran long. :rommie:
Lightning could have started the stampede. Bonus points if it was Billy's lightning.

Hmm, I wonder if it does extend to writing, though. I'll have to research that.
If it was a mental block, I'm sure it could.

I thought the good old FSM was pretty well known by now. :rommie:
I recall that we had a poster using that as their handle, but I don't know if I ever knew where it came from.

I thought I did. Basically, you hold both hands in front of you so that your index fingers are pointing at each other. You let your eyes go lazy so that you're seeing double. Then you bring your hands very slowly closer together so that it looks like there's a disembodied piece of finger floating in mid air. It should look like this:

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Oh yeah, I remember that now, though I don't recall how it came up. Maybe somebody on TBB got the hiccups? Anyway, it works visually, but I don't have hiccups ATM to test its effectiveness.

Could be. It sounded like she would be the head of nursing for the whole hospital, whereas he seems to be just head of the ER.
But he's a renowned surgeon who gets legislation passed. She'd be an administrator.

Impressive. It's got to be a set that was built for some movie or something. I don't see them getting permission to shoot something like that on location.
Maybe the closer stuff. The long shots definitely look like location shooting.
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I should note something that I didn't get into with Don's previous appearance, that he had some sort of issue with his feet. Hence the soaking the previous time, and the funny walking. In this one, he showed up at the engagement party in sandals.

It must have. Probably a long time ago, though.
I assume the S&G original.

Okay, that's a little weird. I also forgot to mention that Genie Francis has been married to Jonathan Frakes since forever (and yet has somehow never popped up in Star Trek).
Ah, I had no idea. If the name of Frakes's wife came up, I wouldn't have known that she was the actress who played Laura.
 
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The remains of "Lucy", a female hominid from the species Australopithecus afarensis, were discovered in Ethiopia by paleoanthropologist Donald Johanson. Found in the Awash Valley of the Ethiopia's Afar Triangle near the town of Hadar, "Lucy" (officially "AL 288-1"), whose remains were carbon dated at 3.2 million years old, was the earliest example of an ancestor of homo sapiens who could walk upright on two feet.
It's amazing that this happened such a short time ago (the discovery, not the person).

In Vladivostok in the Soviet Union, U.S. President Gerald Ford and Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev signed a Joint Communiqué
He really was a busy little beaver.

By chance, Yoko Ono was in the audience, and she and John met backstage for the first time in months.
By chance? I thought it was established that Elton's fine hand wrought this reunion. :rommie:

That's pretty remarkable.

U.S. Representative Wilbur Mills of Ohio, Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, caused an embarrassing scene when he arrived, intoxicated, at The Pilgrim Theatre in Boston, and walked on the stage where his mistress, Fanne Foxe, was performing as a stripper.
Ah, the good old Combat Zone-- where anything could happen and it usually did.

"Dark Horse," George Harrison
Good one, though not his best. I never heard it at the time, though, probably not until sometime in the 80s.

"Doctor's Orders," Carol Douglas
Good one. Strong nostalgia factor.

"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," Elton John (feat. the Reggae guitars of Dr. Winston O'Boogie)
Very nice. Strong nostalgia factor.

"Best of My Love," Eagles
Also very nice. Strong nostalgia factor.

Those Peanuts specials were great. Best adaptation of a comic strip ever.

Lightning could have started the stampede. Bonus points if it was Billy's lightning.
Excellent. I like it. :rommie:

If it was a mental block, I'm sure it could.
My brief research produced somewhat conflicting results. Some sources say people with traumatic mutism can still communicate through text or writing, others say it causes communication issues across the board-- I imagine it varies on a case-by-case basis.

I recall that we had a poster using that as their handle, but I don't know if I ever knew where it came from.
Ah, that's right. I don't think I knew him too well.

Oh yeah, I remember that now, though I don't recall how it came up. Maybe somebody on TBB got the hiccups? Anyway, it works visually, but I don't have hiccups ATM to test its effectiveness.
Just bookmark that link in case of an emergency! :rommie:

But he's a renowned surgeon who gets legislation passed. She'd be an administrator.
True. We also don't know how long each has been with the hospital. All of these things would factor in.

Maybe the closer stuff. The long shots definitely look like location shooting.
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It's remarkable that they could get approval for something like that-- not only because of the risk, but because of the disruption to traffic.

I should note something that I didn't get into with Don's previous appearance, that he had some sort of issue with his feet. Hence the soaking the previous time, and the funny walking. In this one, he showed up at the engagement party in sandals.
I wondered about the soaking. :rommie:

I assume the S&G original.
Yes, although I also love the Harper's Bizarre cover.

Ah, I had no idea. If the name of Frakes's wife came up, I wouldn't have known that she was the actress who played Laura.
I was always surprised that she never turned up in TNG. It would have been both cool and marketable.
 
By chance? I thought it was established that Elton's fine hand wrought this reunion. :rommie:
Lewisohn's words. From what I've read, Elton was in on it and kept it from John, who was nervous enough about going on stage as it was. Yoko sent them both carnations before the show which they wore, but John didn't know she was there.

Good one, though not his best. I never heard it at the time, though, probably not until sometime in the 80s.
Can't say I have any in-the-day familiarity with it, either.

Good one. Strong nostalgia factor.
This one, OTOH, is somewhat familiar from the day.

Very nice. Strong nostalgia factor.
I don't seem to have this one yet.

Also very nice. Strong nostalgia factor.
Classic Eagles.

True. We also don't know how long each has been with the hospital. All of these things would factor in.
Not a factor, as the office was coming with the job whether she took it or not.

It's remarkable that they could get approval for something like that-- not only because of the risk, but because of the disruption to traffic.
Shooting locations listed on IMDb include Henry Ford Bridge, Long Beach, California.
 
Lewisohn's words. From what I've read, Elton was in on it and kept it from John, who was nervous enough about going on stage as it was. Yoko sent them both carnations before the show which they wore, but John didn't know she was there.
I prefer to believe that Elton was in on it. :rommie:

Classic Eagles.
One of my favorites of theirs.

Not a factor, as the office was coming with the job whether she took it or not.
True, I was thinking overall benefits package.

Shooting locations listed on IMDb include Henry Ford Bridge, Long Beach, California.
Amazing. So they must have diverted traffic for hours. I suppose it makes sense when you think what a big part of the local economy the movie-and-TV industry is.
 


50th Anniversary Viewing (Part 1)



Adam-12
"Lady Beware"
Originally aired November 19, 1974
MeTV said:
Malloy and Reed join forces with Sgt. Gloria Tyler to search for a rapist who attacks teen girls.

On patrol, the officers stop when they see a young girl stumbling through the park. She struggles with Pete as he tries to help her, revealing bruises on her face. At the hospital, rape is confirmed.

In the HQ breakroom, the officers are approached by Gloria Tyler from Juvenile (Beth Brickell), who tells them that the girl they found matches the M.O. of a suspected serial rapist who operates near a school. Having cleared it with Mac, she also enlists them to attend her titular program meeting at the high school, where, in her uniform, the sergeant coaches the girls in how to scream for help and enlists the officers' aid in demonstrating how common objects carried in their purses can be used as defensive weapons, and all three officers offer advice in how to deal with a rapist, including not being afraid to report it to the police. (The school angle was a bit confusing, because the first victim didn't look high school age.)

On patrol, the officers respond to a 459 on South Rodeo. At a house whose residents are known to be on vacation, they catch an elderly burglar of their acquaintance named Franky (Charles Seel) coaching his nephew, Donny (Eric Shea), in his art. Franky explains that he expects to be put away after an already impending trial, and wanted to teach the boy how to take care of himself. As he's pleading with the officers not to take the boy in, Franky collapses from a heart attack. As Franky's being loaded in an ambulance, Donny expresses how he'd rather go to jail that be sent back to his drunk, wanton mother in El Paso. Pete encourages him to explain his situation to the juvenile authorities, and Franky is heartbroken to be told that one way or another, he's not likely to see Gramps again.

When the officers return to the school to pick Gloria up, they find her outraged at a chauvinist teacher who was outspoken about how the young rape victims are asking for it with their dress and mannerisms. Back on patrol...

Pete: We're gonna get a call any minute.​
Jim: What makes you think so?​
Pete: Because it's almost lunch time and I'm starving.​

On cue, the dispatcher assigns them to an attempted shoplifting at a supermarket. The clerk there (Don Diamond) tells them how the suspect he was holding, who was wearing a large raincoat filled with his stolen goods, got away while he was calling it in. The officers find the coat in a garbage can outside of a bar. They enter and are told by a patron (Ralph Montgomery) that the man struggling to do stand-up comedy on the stage (John Furlong) just got there and isn't the usual entertainment. When the officers approach him about accompanying them to the supermarket, he confesses and tries to blow off his crime, claiming to be an out-of-work actor; and Pete guilts him about his role in raising the price of groceries.

Suspect: Hey, howdja figure I was the guy you were lookin' for?​
Pete: Well, we were pretty sure you weren't a comedian.​

At the 12-Cave, Mac briefs Malloy, Reed, and several other officers in civilian and working attire about doing stakeout for a sting operation in which Sgt. Tyler, dressed alluringly, will serve as bait for the rapist. Jim rides a bicycle in the area, while Pete drives around in a catering truck. When Tyler enters a pedestrian underpass tunnel and Pete hears a scream, he drives his Petemobile on the grass to get to her. Tyler runs out, directing Pete to the other end of the tunnel, where a man on a bicycle (Lee Paul) exits, followed by an assaulted girl, whom Tyler comforts. The suspect tries to get away, but is cut off by Pete and run down by Jim. As he's being arrested, he protests his innocence, but--sporting a wound over one of his eyes, reacts strongly to the victim, who defended herself the way the officers taught in class. Tyler assures the girl that she did the right thing.

Back at HQ, Jerry Woods, who was also part of the stakeout, tries to pick up Tyler, but she skillfully evades his pass.



M*A*S*H
"There Is Nothing Like a Nurse"
Originally aired November 19, 1974
Wiki said:
The men of the 4077th must cope without the nurses, who are evacuated due to the possibility of an enemy attack.

Houlihan dismisses a nurse from the OR for being insubordinate to Burns, which the guys play off of.

Houlihan: You report to my quarters!​
Hawkeye: Major Burns will show you how to get there.​

Houlihan goes to Blake, wanting him to place her under "bed arrest," which would involve the nurse sitting on her bed at attention while off-duty for a month. While this is a harsh punishment, I have to wonder if Houlihan would need to go to the colonel to discipline her own nurses. Isn't she the immediate superior officer? Blake pushes back, outraging Houlihan. Then Radar enters with news of an expected enemy attack, for which the nurses are evacuated to another unit.

This is Loudon Wainwright III's second of three appearances as Capt. Calvin Spalding. Here we see him being more interactive with the cast, including Hawk and Trap accompanying him as he sings and plays an upbeat song about death and the afterlife (apparently a Wainwright original titled "Unrequited to the Nth Degree"). Burns puts enlisted men to work digging foxholes. Hawkeye and Trap try to get in some last-minute time with nurses in the supply room, as does Frank with Margaret in her quarters. As the nurses are preparing to leave, Hawkeye surprises Hot Lips with a big, passionate kiss, which she doesn't react negatively to. When the truck pulls out, a bag falls off the back that turns out to have Klinger in it.

As the guys try to drown their sorrows at the officers' club, Spalding plays a melancholy number about men missing their women ("I Wonder If They Miss Us"). When Klinger enters in full drag, he's met by cat calls. Despite the lack of qualified nursing personnel, choppers continue to come in, keeping the 4077th in business. (I have to question the authenticity of this--it smells like the dubious setup of the sniper episode.) Substitute nurses are enlisted, including Mulcahy, Radar, and Klinger. This time we see Spalding operating in the OR, assisted by Mr. Kwang (Leland Sun). In a phone call with Margaret, Frank expresses insecurity about Margaret hooking up with another guy, and flatters her by threatening to kill her if that happened. Burns chases the guys for listening in from Radar's desk, and the guys trap him in a foxhole that he falls into by driving a Jeep over it. For diversion, the guys have Blake screen a reel that Burns keeps under his bunk, with Radar and Klinger also attending. It turns out to be of Frank's wedding to sour-expressioned, bespectacled, and pregnant Louise (Jeanne Schulherr). Everyone heckles. Then an air raid siren sounds, and it turns out that the expected paratrooper invasion was nothing more than Five O'Clock Charlie dropping leaflets by day.

Blake: "Give up, Yankee imperialist dog."​
Burns: "Harry Truman is sleeping with your wife"?​

After the nurses are promptly returned, Spalding and the guys lead a celebratory parade while performing the song from the opening.
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The Odd Couple
"Our Fathers"
Originally aired November 21, 1974
Wiki said:
In a flashback to Chicago in the Roaring Twenties, Oscar's and Felix's fathers (Klugman and Randall in dual roles) meet, as do the young Oscar (Adam Klugman) and Felix (Sean Manning).

Felix returns from a visit with cousins in Chicago, scandalized to have learned how Oscar's father, Blinky Madison, tried to kill Felix's. Felix goes into a flashback tale of when Blinky, whom Oscar thought was a maître d', actually ran a speakeasy. After Blinky mistakes police at the door for Shriners, he goes to see optometrist Morris Unger for the condition that earned him his nickname. Dr. Unger prescribes carrots for night blindness and fixes Blinky up with a pair of glasses. Unger later takes Madison up on an offer to visit his establishment. The overly straight-laced doctor doesn't know what type of establishment it is, or that his iced tea is spiked; and has to fend off a dancing girl named Lucy (Barbara Rhoades) because he's married. As a federal agent (Billy Sands) flashes his badge and declares a raid, the Big Boss (Giorgio Tozzi) arrives.

Lucy: It's the Big Boss!​
Unger: President Hoover?​

The Big Boss buys off the fed with a fat wad of cash. When Dr. Unger expresses his outrage at the bribe, Blinky points out that the police commissioner is sitting at one of the tables.

From his office, Unger tries to call the police to report the commissioner, but the desk sergeant just puts the commissioner on the line to listen. This gets back to the Boss, who assigns Madison to kill Unger, accompanied by a seasoned pro from Detroit named Heel (Elisha Cook), who limps on a metal-heeled shoe that he uses as a lethal weapon. While Heel waits outside Unger's office, Blinky pulls his gun on Morris but, following a one-sided call that Unger gets from his son, can't go through with it, as he's never killed anyone. Unger offers to take care of Heel, having him come in and holding the gun on him, but Morris also can't go through with it and hands over the gun. Then Heel reveals that he's actually an undercover federal agent and orders them to get out of town for 25 years...identifying himself as he leaves as Eliot Ness.

Back in the present, when Oscar disbelieves Felix's story, Felix produces a family heirloom--Ness's shoe, which breaks a table just as it did in the flashback. In the coda, learning that their fathers hid out in a hotel together for a couple of days jogs Oscar's memory of him and Felix having an awkward first meeting, portrayed in a brief flashback of their younger selves.



Ironside
"Far Side of the Fence"
Originally aired November 21, 1974
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When Ed infiltrates a crime ring, he's told to kill Ironside in order to prove his loyalty.

The chief makes a dockside rendezvous with informant Charley Yager (it must be Elisha Cook Night), who tells him that one of the local gangs is planning a big heist. Then a trio of hoodlums comes running up on the deck of an adjacent ship with guns blazing. Charley goes down and Mark's gun is shot out of his hand, but the Chief apparently puts a slug in one of the hoods, sending him into the drink. Afterward, Lou Parker (Peter Mark Richman) informs his inside man on the force, Matt Black (Jim Hutton), that his brother Ronnie was killed by Ironside, whom Parker now plans to knock off. Matt feels that he can't let this happen, but when he fills in his wife, Charlotte (Shelley Fabares), about what happened, and how he became an informant for Parker to get Ronnie out of gambling debt, she encourages him to think of the family, to keep working for Parker and not turn himself in. The team figure that there's an inside man on the force and start an investigation to determine who it might be. They know the hood Ironside shot at as Ronnie Schwartz, and don't know of any family. In the parking garage, the Chief is lowering the chair lift of the van when an ineffectual explosion goes off, which the Chief takes as a warning.

The Chief gets a taunting call from Parker, following which Ed decides to go undercover, disguising himself with sunglasses and a 'stache. Hanging out at a dockside diner and asking about Ronnie Schwartz, he's soon approached by Parker's right-hand man, Trace (Lee Paul), who takes him to see Parker. Parker has Trace and another man, Steve (W. T. Zacha), rough "Si" up to find out what he wants Ronnie for, breaking the wire Ed's wearing in the process. Parker then offers to put Si to work to earn the money that Ronnie supposedly owed him...the job being to kill Chief Ironside. Ed's isolated in a room at Parker's place and has no means to contact Ironside; but he overhears Parker making another call to Ironside, so he accesses a phone jack in his room, tapping it so that it can be heard over the line. This makes Parker hang up, but catches the Chief's interest. Trace and Steve subsequently accompany Ed to a sniper's perch looking into the Cave, from where Ed seemingly shoots the Chief in the back. The hoods makes Ed leave the rifle there with his prints on it so that Parker will have something on him.

The Chief's assassination makes the news, including an interview with Fran on the scene. While the hoods wait for info about the big job, Ed tries to learn about Parker's man on the force. Diana Sanger drops by the Cave and quickly learns that the Chief is alive, which even the department doesn't know. They explain how Ed left a rough Morse code message, including some typos that were deciphered as meaning to read, "Chief play dead." Parker brings Matt to meet the hoods and Ed. In his room, Ed taps another message on the phone jack...somehow dialing the Chief's number in the process, but is caught by Parker (who clumsily explains how kids can tap out phone numbers with the receiver buttons). Matt claims not to recognize Ed; and Parker deduces that the Chief's death was a ruse.

The message Ed got out was "Ron cop bro". The team narrow this down to Black, who also comes from New York and Americanized his German name. They question Mrs. Black, who tries to play dumb and cover for her husband, but she's made to talk with the threat of becoming an accessory to murder. From what little she knows, the team deduces that the heist is the hijacking of a load of illegal guns that the police are dumping off a pier into the drink. Ed is brought along to drive for the heist. While they're unloading the police truck, Ed shares with Matt that it was determined that Ronnie was actually shot by a different gun from the side (very briefly set up in an earlier scene but not well explained), with Parker being the likely suspect. When the van swoops in, Ed tries to make a break and is caught at gunpoint by Parker. But Matt confronts Parker about killing Ronnie, getting winged as Ed swings an object at Parker's gun arm. Uniformed backup arrives and Parker and hoods are apprehended.

Before the coda is cut off, we see that Charlotte has been taken into custody as an accessory, while Matt contemplates his own involvement.



Amazing. So they must have diverted traffic for hours. I suppose it makes sense when you think what a big part of the local economy the movie-and-TV industry is.
Or a train wasn't due.
 
demonstrating how common objects carried in their purses can be used as defensive weapons
Unfortunately I don't think mace or pepper spray are legal for minors.

(The school angle was a bit confusing, because the first victim didn't look high school age.)
It's TV Land-- teenagers are all in their 20s. :rommie:

Franky explains that he expects to be put away after an already impending trial, and wanted to teach the boy how to take care of himself.
That's heartwarming. :rommie:

Franky is heartbroken to be told that one way or another, he's not likely to see Gramps again.
But I guess we'll never know....

the man struggling to do stand-up comedy on the stage (John Furlong) just got there and isn't the usual entertainment.
Wow, he killed the regular comedian and took his place? That escalated quickly.

Pete guilts him about his role in raising the price of groceries.
Theft, murder, and a negative economic impact. Throw away the key! :rommie:

Suspect: Hey, howdja figure I was the guy you were lookin' for?
Pete: Well, we were pretty sure you weren't a comedian.
But Malloy is. :rommie:

Tyler runs out, directing Pete to the other end of the tunnel, where a man on a bicycle (Lee Paul) exits, followed by an assaulted girl, whom Tyler comforts.
So they set up this sting operation, but Tyler just stumbles upon a rape in progress. That's a bit oddly plotted.

While this is a harsh punishment, I have to wonder if Houlihan would need to go to the colonel to discipline her own nurses.
Beats me. Maybe there's some threshhold, like the amount of time the punishment lasts. Or maybe she wants his approval documented in case there are questions later.

Then Radar enters with news of an expected enemy attack, for which the nurses are evacuated to another unit.
I wonder how they decide between evacuating the nurses and moving the whole camp. There have been other episodes where they bugged out entirely.

This is Loudon Wainwright III's second of three appearances as Capt. Calvin Spalding.
So weird. I'd love to know the story behind this character.

Hawkeye surprises Hot Lips with a big, passionate kiss, which she doesn't react negatively to.
And not for the last time.

When the truck pulls out, a bag falls off the back that turns out to have Klinger in it.
:rommie:

When Klinger enters in full drag, he's met by cat calls.
He better hope the nurses aren't gone too long. :rommie:

(I have to question the authenticity of this--it smells like the dubious setup of the sniper episode.)
Yeah, the premise seems a bit contrived. I wonder if there was ever a real instance of only the nurses being evacuated.

Substitute nurses are enlisted, including Mulcahy, Radar, and Klinger.
They should use these guys as nurse's aides during normal operations so they'll be more prepared in a crisis.

In a phone call with Margaret, Frank expresses insecurity about Margaret hooking up with another guy, and flatters her by threatening to kill her if that happened.
Aww, that's sweet! :rommie:

It turns out to be of Frank's wedding to sour-expressioned, bespectacled, and pregnant Louise (Jeanne Schulherr).
He keeps this under his bunk? Is this supposed to imply that he really has some affection for his wife?

Blake: "Give up, Yankee imperialist dog."

Burns: "Harry Truman is sleeping with your wife"?
"We have your nurses. How much to get them back?"

Felix returns from a visit with cousins in Chicago, scandalized to have learned how Oscar's father, Blinky Madison, tried to kill Felix's.
I wonder how all this will fit into the ever-shifting Odd Couple timeline. :rommie:

Felix goes into a flashback tale of when Blinky, whom Oscar thought was a maître d', actually ran a speakeasy. After Blinky mistakes police at the door for Shriners, he goes to see optometrist Morris Unger for the condition that earned him his nickname. Dr. Unger prescribes carrots for night blindness and fixes Blinky up with a pair of glasses. Unger later takes Madison up on an offer to visit his establishment. The overly straight-laced doctor doesn't know what type of establishment it is, or that his iced tea is spiked; and has to fend off a dancing girl named Lucy (Barbara Rhoades) because he's married. As a federal agent (Billy Sands) flashes his badge and declares a raid, the Big Boss (Giorgio Tozzi) arrives.

Lucy: It's the Big Boss!
Unger: President Hoover?

The Big Boss buys off the fed with a fat wad of cash. When Dr. Unger expresses his outrage at the bribe, Blinky points out that the police commissioner is sitting at one of the tables.

From his office, Unger tries to call the police to report the commissioner, but the desk sergeant just puts the commissioner on the line to listen. This gets back to the Boss, who assigns Madison to kill Unger, accompanied by a seasoned pro from Detroit named Heel (Elisha Cook), who limps on a metal-heeled shoe that he uses as a lethal weapon. While Heel waits outside Unger's office, Blinky pulls his gun on Morris but, following a one-sided call that Unger gets from his son, can't go through with it, as he's never killed anyone. Unger offers to take care of Heel, having him come in and holding the gun on him, but Morris also can't go through with it and hands over the gun. Then Heel reveals that he's actually an undercover federal agent and orders them to get out of town for 25 years...identifying himself as he leaves as Eliot Ness.
Well, that was super groovy. I can't believe I have no recollection of it. I was sure I had seen them all. And I have a special affection for the Roaring 20s, so it definitely would have stuck in my mind.

In the coda, learning that their fathers hid out in a hotel together for a couple of days jogs Oscar's memory of him and Felix having an awkward first meeting, portrayed in a brief flashback of their younger selves.
And it's true, both Jack Klugman and Tony Randall were school-age kids during Prohibition, which is kind of mind boggling.

Charley goes down
Special Guest Victim: Elisha Cook!

and Mark's gun is shot out of his hand
Close call! In real life, he'd be seriously contemplating his mortality. :rommie:

Lou Parker (Peter Mark Richman)
Sinister character actor.

his wife, Charlotte (Shelley Fabares)
Singer, actor, and Elvis cohort.

the Chief is lowering the chair lift of the van when an ineffectual explosion goes off, which the Chief takes as a warning.
As a warning for what? If Parker is planning to knock him off, why send a warning? He has no reason to toy with him.

The Chief gets a taunting call from Parker
And yet he toys with him. Parker must be into self sabotage. :rommie:

rough "Si" up to find out what he wants Ronnie for, breaking the wire Ed's wearing in the process.
But fortunately leaving his mustache intact.

Parker then offers to put Si to work to earn the money that Ronnie supposedly owed him...the job being to kill Chief Ironside.
Apparently assassinating high-profile law-enforcement officials is an entry-level position. :rommie:

he accesses a phone jack in his room, tapping it so that it can be heard over the line
This is an interesting gimmick. It's analog technology, so it may work.

Ed seemingly shoots the Chief in the back.
But all is not as it seems!

They explain how Ed left a rough Morse code message, including some typos that were deciphered as meaning to read, "Chief play dead."
"He spelled it c-h-e-i-f, so I immediately knew it was Ed."

Ed taps another message on the phone jack...somehow dialing the Chief's number in the process, but is caught by Parker (who clumsily explains how kids can tap out phone numbers with the receiver buttons).
I think this is true, but only works on rotary phones. I'm not entirely sure. I don't remember trying it as a kid, but we had touch-tone phones once we left Dorchester.

the team deduces that the heist is the hijacking of a load of illegal guns that the police are dumping off a pier into the drink.
The police dispose of confiscated weapons by dumping them off a pier into the harbor? They don't even take them out to sea? I find it hard to believe that this was done even in the early 70s.

Ed shares with Matt that it was determined that Ronnie was actually shot by a different gun from the side (very briefly set up in an earlier scene but not well explained), with Parker being the likely suspect.
It seems like Parker killed Ronnie in order to manipulate Matt into killing Ironside-- though it's weird that he did it in the middle of everybody literally raining bullets on Ironside-- so why did he even bother with Ed?

Uniformed backup arrives and Parker and hoods are apprehended.
Probably should have had those guys guarding the guns to begin with. :rommie:

Before the coda is cut off, we see that Charlotte has been taken into custody as an accessory, while Matt contemplates his own involvement.
Yes, Matt, you're in big trouble.

Oh, okay, it makes a lot more sense now. :rommie:
 
We lost Earl Holliman, at 96. :(

Unfortunately I don't think mace or pepper spray are legal for minors.
Try combs with pointy handles for sticking in eyes, and broken mirror shards. The former was apparently the method used on the rapist.

It's TV Land-- teenagers are all in their 20s. :rommie:
Oh no, it was the other way around. The opening victim looked elementary school age...maybe early junior high.
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Contrast with the high school class that the officers were speaking at:
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The victim in the climax looks somewhere in-between, though she was implied to have been in the class. And Sgt. Tyler in her sting outfit looks like she's way out of the usual M.O. range.
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Wow, he killed the regular comedian and took his place? That escalated quickly.
Nah, he just opportunistically took to the stage.

It's always Code Seven when you're on stakeout in a catering truck!
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So weird. I'd love to know the story behind this character.
Probably just there for some flavor, and he moved on. Keep in mind that singer/guitarists are baked into the premise...the film had one singing "Suicide Is Painless," which the TV theme was an instrumental version of.

He better hope the nurses aren't gone too long. :rommie:
"Forget it! When the nurses come back, I'll be tossed aside like an old shoe!"

They should use these guys as nurse's aides during normal operations so they'll be more prepared in a crisis.
Good idea. Mulcahy at least had some previous experience.

Aww, that's sweet! :rommie:
She thought so.

He keeps this under his bunk? Is this supposed to imply that he really has some affection for his wife?
Possibly.

I wonder how all this will fit into the ever-shifting Odd Couple timeline. :rommie:
I didn't even try this time.

Well, that was super groovy. I can't believe I have no recollection of it. I was sure I had seen them all. And I have a special affection for the Roaring 20s, so it definitely would have stuck in my mind.
It's available on Pluto, a free streaming service.

Close call! In real life, he'd be seriously contemplating his mortality. :rommie:
He got a bandaged hand out of it.

The Chief allegedly sending someone into the drink:
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Sinister character actor.
And unfrozen stockbroker.

As a warning for what? If Parker is planning to knock him off, why send a warning? He has no reason to toy with him.
Got me.

But fortunately leaving his mustache intact.
I should've mentioned that he unmustched himself in the end...like Artie with his muttonchops.

"He spelled it c-h-e-i-f, so I immediately knew it was Ed."
He actually got some of the Morse characters wrong, but they deduced what he was trying to spell from similar characters.

The police dispose of confiscated weapons by dumping them off a pier into the harbor? They don't even take them out to sea? I find it hard to believe that this was done even in the early 70s.
They might've been taking them to a boat...I didn't catch that.

It seems like Parker killed Ronnie in order to manipulate Matt into killing Ironside-- though it's weird that he did it in the middle of everybody literally raining bullets on Ironside-- so why did he even bother with Ed?
True.

Probably should have had those guys guarding the guns to begin with. :rommie:
And again.
 
We lost Earl Holliman, at 96. :(
RIP, Earl Holliman. He was pretty cool. And he had the honor of starring in the very first episode of Twilight Zone.

Try combs with pointy handles for sticking in eyes, and broken mirror shards. The former was apparently the method used on the rapist.
I prefer range weapons. :rommie:

Oh no, it was the other way around. The opening victim looked elementary school age...maybe early junior high.

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Wow, she does look young. You'd think even playing a part like that would traumatize a kid that age.

Nah, he just opportunistically took to the stage.
Yeah, but I'm wondering what happened to the "usual entertainment." :rommie:

It's always Code Seven when you're on stakeout in a catering truck!

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Nice. :rommie: He should keep a picnic basket in the unit.

Probably just there for some flavor, and he moved on. Keep in mind that singer/guitarists are baked into the premise...the film had one singing "Suicide Is Painless," which the TV theme was an instrumental version of.
True, what worked in a movie is probably tough to squeeze into a half hour.

"Forget it! When the nurses come back, I'll be tossed aside like an old shoe!"
:rommie:

She thought so.
I'm sure. :rommie:

It's available on Pluto, a free streaming service.
Hmm. I think I'll try to watch that today.

The Chief allegedly sending someone into the drink:
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I guess he'll have to adjust his lifetime stats.

And unfrozen stockbroker.
Yeah, and the Reverend Snow. He had a pretty good career.

They might've been taking them to a boat...I didn't catch that.
It's not very environmentally friendly. You'd think they'd crush them up and put them in a landfill or something.

Sad to hear it. Rest in peace, to the last surviving cast member of Forbidden Planet.:confused:

My second-favorite movie.
 
Wow, she does look young. You'd think even playing a part like that would traumatize a kid that age.
"Now, Suzy, an older boy just pushed you in the mud and stole your dolly..."

Nice. :rommie: He should keep a picnic basket in the unit.
There was the comic subplot in an earlier episode about Reed bringing a bag lunch.

My second-favorite movie.
What is Casablanca, Alex?

Well, it looks like Ironside had it right after all. :rommie:
They probably read about it at the time.
 
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"Now, Suzy, an older boy just pushed you in the mud and stole your dolly..."
Yeah, hopefully. Geez.

There was the comic subplot in an earlier episode about Reed bringing a bag lunch.
I remember that.

What is Casablanca, Alex?
Indeed, and by just a smidgen.

They probably read about it at the time.
Yeah, it was fairly timely as they were producing the season.

He was also in the pilot for the 'Twilight Zone' tv series and Sergeant Bill Crowley on 'Police Woman' from 1974-78 and a frequent guest on the '$25,000 Pyramid.'

I liked him in Police Woman, though I seldom watched the show. I also remember him from Hollywood Squares, where he was pretty funny.
 
Been meaning to post this for a while now, but work and windstorm coupled with a power outage delayed it - We have come to the final 50th Anniversary release of the year

Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Charts - US #41, UK #10
Singles
Counting Out Time b/w Riding The Scree - US None, UK None
The Carpet Crawlers b/w 'Evil Jam' (The Waiting Room - Live) - US None, UK None
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SIDE A
1) The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2) Fly On The Windshield
3) Broadway Melody Of 1974
4) Cuckoo Cocoon
5) In The Cage
6) The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging

SIDE B
1) Back In N.Y.C.
2) Hairless Heart
3) Counting Out Time
4) The Carpet Crawlers
5) The Chamber Of 32 Doors

SIDE C
1) Lilywhite Lilith
2) The Waiting Room
3) Anyway
4) Here Comes the Supernatural Anaesthetist
5) The Lamia
6) Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats

SIDE D
1) The Colony Of Slippermen
a) The Arrival
b) A Visit To The Doktor
c) The Raven
2) Ravine
3) The Light Dies Down On Broadway
4) Riding The Scree
5) In The Rapids
6) It

The album that made the band and almost broke it at the same time.

Following the critical and commercial success of the album 'Selling England By The Pound' and the conclusion of the subsequent tour, the band - Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett and Mike Rutherford decided it was time to record a double album.

The band was given an unprecedented six months to write and record the album and the band along with their wives/girlfriends and roadies moved into Headley Grange (where Led Zeppelin had just finished recording 'When The Levee Breaks') in East Hampshire for three months (June-August) to develop the concept.

Mike Rutherford pushed strongly for an adaptation of the novel 'The Little Prince' by Antonie de Saint-Exupery, but Gabriel rejected it as being "too 'twee", and believed that, "prancing around in fairyland was rapidly becoming obsolete." (Elements of 'The Little Prince' would show up in Rutherford's solo album 'Smallcreeps Day' and the Genesis album 'Duke'.)

Gabriel offered up the story of Rael, a Puerto Rican immigrant living in New York City, who finds himself in some form of underworld beneath New York City trying to find his way out.

Emboldened by having written all the lyrics to 'Supper's Ready', the side-long epic that closed Side-B of the album 'Foxtrot', Gabriel insisted on writing all the lyrics for 'The Lamb' - which caused tension within the band.

Banks, Collins, Hackett and Rutherford would jam together and develop riffs and melodies while Gabriel secluded himself on the other side of the house writing lyrics to the demos as they were presented to him

Gabriel recalls that the main writer of each song would come to him to 'discuss the lyrics', but he wasn't about to give up his control over the word content. Banks and Rutherford have also mentioned that they were frustrated that they had little input into the lyrics of the music that they were writing.

Matters weren't helped when early in the demo/writing process director William Friedkin, fresh off of 'The Exorcist', approached Gabriel about writing a screenplay for a movie. Friedkin had read the short story Gabriel had written on the back of 'Genesis Live' and thought that he had an "interesting mind" and wanted to develop the idea further.

Gabriel approached the others and said he would need about six weeks to develop the screenplay with Friedkin. The others were understandably upset that Gabriel would choose this time, right as the album was being developed, to leave, and issued an ultimatum to choose between the band and Friedkin. Gabriel chose to leave the band and pursue the opportunity with Friedkin. The band weren't really sure if he had left or if he would return, so they continued to write, with Rutherford since commenting that during this period they decided to carry on as a band without a singer and issue the album as an instrumental if necessary. However, Gabriel returned within a week after Friedkin learned of the ultimatum and told Gabriel he didn't want to be the one who broke up the band.

Gabriel returned but left again shortly afterword to be with his wife Jill and the birth of their first child Anna. It was a complicated birth, with Jill developing an infection from the epidural needle and Anna being born with the cord wrapped around her neck. Anna was immediately rushed to the premature ward where she spent the next two days. Doctors didn't think she would survive and forbade Gabriel and Jill to see Anna lest they form an attachment to her. This left Gabriel to drive the eight hours between the hospital and Headley Grange. The distances involved meant that Gabriel fell further and further behind in writing the lyrics and when it came time to leave Headley Grange and move into the recording studio to begin work in September, only about half of the album had been written - with Banks, Collins, Hackett and Rutherford forced to revisit discarded material from as far back as 'Nursery Cryme' in order to pad out sides 3 and 4.

Banks and Rutherford have both said that they should have been more understanding about Peter's plight, but they were still in their early twenties and unmarried with no children, and they had adapted an "all or nothing" approach to the band - so when Peter said he wanted to spend more time with his wife and newborn, they were more than a little upset.

Steve Hackett and Phil Collins also don't have fond memories of making the album. Steve was in the middle of a divorce from his wife Ellen Busse and both Phil and Steve, having been junior members during the recording of 'Nursery Cryme', but allowed more say in 'Foxtrot' and 'Selling England By The Pound', felt themselves relegated back down to junior status again as they were left out of the writing process due to Gabriel's insistence in developing and writing the story of Rael; although Collins does consider "Lilywhite Lilith" one of his best early Genesis compositions and is particularly proud of his drumming throughout the entire album.

Banks, Collins, Hackett and Rutherford also have all said that Gabriel tended to cram more words than were necessary into the songs that were written in order to fit the medley, rather than let the songs 'breathe' - resulting in dense, sometimes indecipherable 'word salad'. Banks and Rutherford have both also said that some of the songs should have best been left as instrumentals.

After spending four months writing and demoing songs for 'The Lamb', the backing tracks were recorded in a mad rush in two weeks in order to meet the release date and the upcoming tour. Gabriel then spent October finishing the lyrics and recording them, enlisting the help of Banks and Rutherford to write lyrics for "The Light Lies Down On Broadway". Banks and Rutherford also wrote lyrics for "The Lamia" and "Here Comes The Supernatural Anaesthetist", but they were rejected by Gabriel.

Gabriel says that the album should have been released in two parts - six months apart - giving him time to finish work on sides Three and Four, again, however, the band and management were committed to the release date and tour that was to start two days after the album hit the record store shelves.

Banks has said that the rushed nature of sides Three and Four to him meant that the album sort of "fizzled out", rather than building to an epic finale to wrap up the story of Rael.

Final mixing was done in one twenty-four-hour shift with Collins working the first twelve hours and Banks and Rutherford the second. When Banks and Rutherford arrived at the studio to hear what Phil had done, they discovered that Phil had mixed out Hackett and Rutherford's guitar and bass parts, because as Phil says, "he lost all sense of perspective", and they not only had to remix Hackett and Rutherford's parts but mix the remaining parts of the album as well.

The tour began on 20th-November-1974, the first of 102 dates - ending on 22nd-May-1975. The tour was accompanied by 1,450 slides projected on three large screens behind the band, a lightshow, props, and costume changes, telling the story of 'The Lamb' and Rael. The band performed the album in its entirety during the tour, making no concessions to performing any of their older material, except for an encore performance of 'The Musical Box.' During the concert, Gabriel would adopt various personas and wear different costumes representing all manner of beings that Rael encountered on his trip through the underworld of New York.

Banks has said that the album should never have been performed in its entirety, as there were songs that could not be played live due to their musical complexity and instruments that were used in the studio could not be replicated onstage properly.

After the first week of performances, Gabriel approached manager Tony Smith and announced he was leaving the band and to cancel the tour. A meeting was held between Gabriel, Smith and the other members of Genesis, where Gabriel was persuaded to finish out the tour while the other members tried to figure out what musical direction that they wanted the band to take after Gabriel's departure.

Phil Collins has said it was odd touring for six months with someone who was about to leave the band and was just going through the motions; and Steve Hackett says that he had hoped that Peter would have enjoyed himself and come to his senses and decide he didn't want to leave Genesis.

Steve Hackett recalls Robert Fripp joining the band backstage after a performance, pulling Steve aside and saying, "It seems obvious to me that the band is being pulled in two different directions," and hinting that Peter should be the one to leave.

At the same time, Steve was laying the groundwork for his own departure from Genesis in 18 months by writing and demoing songs in his hotel rooms, for his debut solo album 'Voyage Of The Acolyte', recorded immediately after the conclusion of the 'Lamb' tour.

The last show with Gabriel was played on 22nd-May-1975, but his departure was not announced to the press until August.

Between Gabriel's departure and subsequent announcement to the press, the four remaining members went back to the studio to record tracks for the album 'A Trick Of The Tail' and audition for a new lead vocalist.

Gabriel would spend the next two years being a househusband to his newborn daughter, intending to rekindle his relationship with William Friedkin. When that didn't pan out, Gabriel tried various odd jobs, before being persuaded by his friend Martin Hall to set music to some poetry that he had written - this would lead to the writing and recording of Peter Gabriel's debut album 'Peter Gabriel'.


The album frequently lands in the 'Top Fifty/Ten' progressive albums of all time.

Edit to add - Well sh*t, I just found out there's one more 50th Anniversary album in my notes I need to get to for next week. I guess I'll do it then.
 
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I've lived in Los Angeles all my life. The whole city is basically one big filming location.
I'll bet. Probably a lot of fun when it's not a pain in the neck. :rommie:

The album that made the band and almost broke it at the same time.​
That seems to be a recurring theme. :rommie:

Mike Rutherford pushed strongly for an adaptation of the novel 'The Little Prince' by Antonie de Saint-Exupery, but Gabriel rejected it as being "too 'twee"
:rommie:

Matters weren't helped when early in the demo/writing process director William Friedkin, fresh off of 'The Exorcist', approached Gabriel about writing a screenplay for a movie. Friedkin had read the short story Gabriel had written on the back of 'Genesis Live' and thought that he had an "interesting mind" and wanted to develop the idea further.
Fascinating. I wonder how that alternate timeline worked out.

Doctors didn't think she would survive and forbade Gabriel and Jill to see Anna lest they form an attachment to her.
Wow, that's horrific. I wonder if that was just a terrible doctor or the normal procedure in that time and place. Needless to say, it's the exact opposite of what we did in situations like that.

this would lead to the writing and recording of Peter Gabriel's debut album 'Peter Gabriel'.
Which gave us "Solsbury Hill," a great song.

The album frequently lands in the 'Top Fifty/Ten' progressive albums of all time.
And this is the first time I've ever heard of it. The first Genesis album I was aware of was Duke. It makes me wonder what my Brother the musician thought of it, because I'm sure I never heard him mention it.
 
Wow, that's horrific. I wonder if that was just a terrible doctor or the normal procedure in that time and place. Needless to say, it's the exact opposite of what we did in situations like that.

Interesting - Without going into too much detail, two of my cousins had difficult childbirths where the infant wasn't expected to survive the first 24-48 hours, so the doctors sequestered the parents from the child, and this had been since 2010. In one case, the doctors recommended turning off the respirator because they didn't think he would ever be able to breathe on his own and wouldn't survive the night.
P.S.
Both infants survived and are healthy - one will have to have a caregiver with him for the rest of his life due to his disabilities, and the other still has one more surgery to go before his heart defect is corrected; he just has to be old enough for it.​
 
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