The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by The Old Mixer, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    Also released in March 1974 - the single 'Too Rolling Stoned' by Robin Trower from his forthcoming album 'Bridge of Sighs'.

  2. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Almost like it was destiny.

    Way to impress the girls, Harry. :rommie:

    Everything seems creepy to people these days. She was an adult and they were obviously good for each other.

    Good name for a band. Too bad they didn't funnel their energies in that direction.

    I remember that one. Not bad. I don't think I knew it was from a movie soundtrack.

    I did see that movie in the theater, but somehow I don't think I recognized Donald Moffat. I didn't care for it much, so maybe my mind was wandering. :rommie:

    Kinda sounds like Cream.
  3. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    Another clip reminded me that the immediate underling was a go-between; he was conveying the suggestions to the CIA Deputy Director of Operations--across the hall from Jack--who was seeing to the details.

    Seemed pretty dramatic to me.

    She may have been making an effort not to let him see the wound location.

    Do you know who starred in it? I'm thinking no, if you've never seen it. There's a reason I brought it up.

    I'd be cleaning those things with disinfectant wipes these days. Hey, we could be an Odd Couple knockoff!

    The song rang absolutely no bells whatsoever, which says something about how generically unmemorable it was.
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  4. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    People nowadays seem to have forgotten how to mind their own damn business.
  5. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Probably to me too, then, if I had seen it. :rommie:

    "You've been wearing those Scooby Doo jammies to bed a lot lately, hon."

    Oh, now I see. It doesn't say when the show takes place, so that could be a descendant of Gilligan-- his name is Junior, after all. And they could be traveling through the Outer Space of the Land of the Lost.

    I'm thinking that would be very likely. :rommie:

    That's religion for ya. Must... control... everyone....
  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    50 Years Ago This Week

    March 10
    • Britain's 280,000 coal mine workers began their return to work after ratification of a new pay package, starting with the night shift at 11:00.

    March 11
    • Imperial Japanese Army second lieutenant Hiroo Onoda formally surrendered after having continued to carry out his orders in World War II to fight in the Philippines for 29 years. Onoda was informed by his former commanding officer, Major Yoshimi Taniguchi, that the War had been over since 1945, and presented his battle sword to Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos.
    • The United Kingdom formally ended the state of emergency that had been proclaimed in November in response to the energy crisis.

    March 12
    • The Soviet Mars 6 space probe, one of two explorers launched in 1973, entered the Martian atmosphere at 9:05 UTC and, after its descent was slowed by a parachute, returned data to Earth for 3 minutes and 44 seconds, although most of what was transmitted was unusable because of the deterioration of a computer chip. At 9:11 UTC, seconds before retrorockets were to fire to allow a soft landing, all contact with Mars 6 was lost and the probe crashed on Mars at a speed of 61 meters per second, equivalent to 136 miles (219 km) per hour.
    • John Lennon is thrown out of the Troubadour nightclub in Los Angeles after heckling the Smothers Brothers during their act, and allegedly assaulting their manager and a waitress. [Over to you, Darren.]

    March 13
    • At a meeting of representatives of the Arab nations OPEC, the nine OAPEC members agreed to lift the embargo against the U.S. for two months and restore full production, which had been reduced in October after U.S. support of Israel in the Yom Kippur War.
    • Prime Minister Liam Cosgrave of the Republic of Ireland announced that the Irish Republic recognized that Northern Ireland was part of the UK and not a part of the Republic of Ireland. Cosgrave told the parliament, "The factual position of Northern Ireland is that it is within the United Kingdom and my government accepts this as a fact." The declaration was made in an effort to stop the ongoing violence in Ireland as a whole.
    • Meeting in Athens, scientists from 13 nations on the Mediterranean Sea warned that the vast body of water between Europe and Africa would "become a dead sea" by 2004 if measures were not taken to reduce water pollution.
    • John Lennon and his new girlfriend, May Pang, formerly his office assistant, attend an American Film Institute dinner honoring James Cagney.

    March 15
    • The 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph) speed limit that had been imposed on West Germany's autobahn traffic in October because of the energy crisis, expired on its own terms after the parliament rejected a proposal to set a limit of 140 kilometres per hour (87 mph).

    March 16
    • U.S. President Nixon last played the piano in public, as part of the dedication of the new Grand Ole Opry House in Nashville, on the grounds of Opryland USA. Nixon played the songs "Happy Birthday to You", followed by "My Wild Irish Rose" and "God Bless America". Previously, country music's Grand Ole Opry had been housed at Nashville's Ryman Auditorium.

    Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:

    Leaving the chart:
    • "Americans," Byron MacGregor (10 weeks)
    • "I've Got to Use My Imagination," Gladys Knight & The Pips (16 weeks)
    • "Midnight Rider," Gregg Allman (12 weeks)

    New on the chart:

    "(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock," Bill Haley & His Comets

    (Originally charted in 1955, reaching #1 US, #3 R&B, #17 UK; subsequent UK issues in 1955 and 1956 reached #1 and #5, respectively; this release reaches #39 in its first run on the Hot 100, which didn't exist in '55, and #12 UK; #158 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])

    "(I've Been) Searchin' So Long," Chicago

    (#9 US; #8 AC)

    "Help Me," Joni Mitchell

    (#7 US; #1 AC; #282 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])

    "The Show Must Go On," Three Dog Night

    (#4 US)

    "Dancing Machine," Jackson 5

    (#2 US; #1 R&B)

    And new on the boob tube:
    • Adam-12, "L.A. International"
    • Kung Fu, "Arrogant Dragon"
    • Ironside, "Riddle at 24,000"
    • All in the Family, "Mike's Graduation" (season finale)


    Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.


    I was always under the impression that it was supposed to be a contemporary space program thing, if fictionalized tech-wise.

    My overall impression of the show (which I only caught irregularly) as a kid was that it was conspicuously riffing on GI, with its stranded premise and the Junior/Barney duo evoking the Gilligan/Skipper dynamic.
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  7. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    It just so happens today is the 50th Anniversary of the 1st Troubadour Incident
    The Troubadour Incident Part 1 - John v. Waitress
    While Harry was out of town, John and May Pang paid a visit to the Troubadour Club to watch a performance of soul singer Ann Peebles.
    At one point during the performance, a seriously inebriated John went to the bathroom, where he found an unused sanitary napkin on the floor. As a gag, he returned to his table with it affixed to his forehead, (as May and others seated at the table begged him to take it off).
    When one of the club's world weary waitresses studiously ignored him, John asked if she knew who he was, to which she replied, "Yes, some asshole with a Kotex on his forehead."
    John got up, ripped the sanitary napkin from his forehead, and stormed out, not paying the bill. The incident was covered up in the press at the time, owing to John's legal difficulties with the imigration department. Any word were to get out, John could find himself in front of a judge and be deported to England, with little chance of returning, due in part to the FBI and President Nixon's watchdogs.
    The next incident could not be kept out of the press.
    Tomorrow - The Troubadour Incident Part 2 - Harry and John v. The Smother's Brothers.
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  8. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Amazing. I'd love to see how this transpired. I wonder if they filmed it.

    And the Soviets do it again. But Mars was tough for everybody.


    Those Irish. Buncha hotheads.

    Good thing somebody listened.

    Some days I wake up and feel like I'm in a completely different universe. :rommie:

    A Classic among Classics.

    Chicago at their peak.


    Three Dog Night. 'nuff said.

    And here's a dancing song by the Jacksons. :rommie:

    He could still be related to Gilligan in some way, an uncle or a cousin or something. And I'm liking this idea of the Land of the Lost having an outer space component, even if it did feel kind of like a snow globe at the time.

    That makes sense based on what I remember of that other actor. But I think everything that Bob Denver did evoked Gilligan-- maybe we can work Dusty's Trail into this. :rommie:

    Hard to reconcile this guy with the guy who created all that lovely poetry.

    Ironically, if this had happened, he may still be alive today-- or at least he would have lived a lot longer.
  9. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut

    70 Years Ago This Season


    January 1
    • The Soviet Union ceased to demand war reparations from Germany.
    • NBC broadcasts the Rose Parade from Pasadena, California in NTSC color. The broadcast uses a new mobile color TV studio (truck) and the program is carried across the continent on 21 stations. RCA strategically places Color TV sets in public viewing areas such as hotel lobbies because the first sets only become available to the public in the spring.


    On January 2, "Oh! My Pa-Pa (O Mein Papa)" by Eddie Fisher with Hugo Winterhalter's Orchestra and Chorus tops the Billboard Best Sellers in Stores chart.


    January 3
    • In the United States, the last steam-driven passenger train left Washington Union Station for Richmond, Virginia.
    • Programma Nazionale began transmissions in Italy, making it the very first TV network in Italian television.

    January 7
    • The Georgetown–IBM experiment, the first public demonstration of a machine translation system (from Russian to English), took place in New York.

    January 10
    • BOAC Flight 781, a de Havilland Comet jet plane, disintegrated in mid-air due to metal fatigue and crashed in the Mediterranean near Elba, killing all 35 people on board.
    • CBMT opens in Montreal, making that city the first in Canada to have 2 stations operating. The new station uses the English language, leaving CBFT to continue entirely in French.

    January 12
    • Experimental television begins in Norway.

    January 14
    • Marilyn Monroe married baseball player Joe DiMaggio.
    • First documented use of the abbreviated term "Rock 'n' Roll" to promote Alan Freed's Rock 'n' Roll Jubillee, held at St. Nicholas Arena in New York City. Previously the genre term was just called "Rock and Roll".


    On January 15, It Should Happen to You, starring Judy Holliday, Peter Lawford and Jack Lemmon, premieres in New York.


    January 17
    • Born: Robert F. Kennedy Jr., American lawyer and activist, 2024 Democratic presidential candidate, in Washington, D.C., to Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy

    January 18
    • Died: Sydney Greenstreet, 74, English actor

    January 20
    • The Tokyo Metro Marunouchi Line, the second line in the system and the first built after World War II, was opened between Ikebukuro and Ochanomizu stations.
    • Chicago businessman W. Leonard Evans Jr. established the US-based National Negro Network with forty-six member radio stations.

    January 21

    January 25
    • The foreign ministers of the United States, the United Kingdom, France and the Soviet Union met at the Berlin Conference, which would last until February 18. Its purpose was to discuss a settlement to the recent Korean War and the ongoing First Indochina War between France and the Viet Minh.

    January 29
    • Born: Oprah Winfrey, American talk show host, actress, and producer, founded Harpo Productions


    Released in January:

    "(I'm Your) Hoochie Coochie Man," Muddy Waters

    (#3 R&B; #225 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])

    "Such a Night," Clyde McPhatter & The Drifters

    (#2 R&B)


    February: Hopalong Cassidy, with issue #86, revived by DC Comics, taking over the numbering of the Fawcett Comics series

    February 2
    • U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower reported the detonation of the first H-bomb (done in 1952).
    • Born: Christie Brinkley, American actress, model, and entrepreneur, in Monroe, Michigan

    February 3

    February 10
    • After authorizing $385 million over the $400 million already budgeted for military aid to Vietnam, President of the United States Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against his country's intervention in Vietnam.


    On February 12, Creature from the Black Lagoon, starring Richard Carlson and Julia Adams, premieres in Denver, Detroit, and Lansing, Mich.


    February 15
    • The Chords record "Sh-Boom" for Atlantic Records' Cat subsidiary.
    • Born: Matt Groening, cartoonist and creator of The Simpsons and Futurama, in Portland, Oregon

    February 18
    • Born: John Travolta, American actor, director and singer, in Englewood, New Jersey

    February 23
    • The first mass vaccination of children against polio began in Pittsburgh, United States.

    February 25
    • Lt. Col. Gamal Abdel Nasser became premier of Egypt.


    On February 27, "Secret Love" by Doris Day with Orchestra conducted by Ray Heindorf tops the Billboard Best Sellers in Stores chart.


    February 28
    • Telma became the first television station in Morocco. It was closed down after 15 months on the air and was left without an official TV station until 1962.


    Also in February, "Tipitina" by Professor Longhair is released (included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll).


    March 1
    • U.S. officials announced that a hydrogen bomb nuclear test (Castle Bravo) had been conducted on Bikini Atoll in the Pacific Ocean as part of Operation Castle.

    On March 13, "Make Love to Me!" by Jo Stafford with Paul Weston & his Orchestra tops the Billboard Best Sellers in Stores chart.


    March 19
    • Joey Giardello knocked out Willie Tory at Madison Square Garden, in the first televised boxing prize fight to be shown in color.

    March 23
    • In Vietnam, the Viet Minh captured the main airstrip of Dien Bien Phu. The remaining French Army units there were partially isolated.

    March 25
    • At the 26th Academy Awards, Frank Sinatra wins the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role in From Here to Eternity, resuscitating his singing career in the process. At the same ceremony, Bing Crosby is nominated for Best Actor for his role in The Country Girl.
    • RCA manufactured the first color television set (12-inch screen; price: $1,000).
    • The Soviet Union recognised the sovereignty of East Germany. Soviet troops remained in the country.

    March 27
    • The Castle Romeo nuclear test explosion was executed.

    March 28
    • Puerto Rico's first television station, WKAQ-TV, commenced broadcasting.


    Sometime in 1954, the following short films are released:

    The House in the Middle
    (full short embedded in the Wiki page; included in the National Film Registry)

    Stamp Day for Superman


    Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki pages for the months, as well as the year in film, music, television, and comics. Sections separated from timeline entries are mine.


    I didn't go through all the YouTube vids about him, but there's a still picture of him formally handing over his sword to Marcos, and I found these:
    BBC News Japan WWII soldier who refused to surrender, dies (

    It's mildly amazing to me in hindsight that we were only just probing out into the solar system when I was a kid. I had no real context to appreciate it at the time.

    His presidential duties still involved more than just covering up Watergate. Enjoy the quirky moment of levity. T-minus 152 days and counting.

    A seminal early hit of the rock 'n' roll era. It appears to have been rereleased as a single at this point in connection with its inclusion on the American Graffiti soundtrack.

    Sounds nice, somewhat memorable, but they've got a really distinctive one coming from this album.

    Her only Top 10 hit. "Both Sides Now" is ranked higher on the RS list, but the hit single version wasn't hers.

    A distinctive bit of oldies / maybe classic rock radio business, this will be their last Top 10 hit, with their last Top 20 hit following.

    A step toward the disco era, out of which will emerge the Michael of Off the Wall.

    Now that one I don't remember...may have been vaguely aware of it at the time. After watching the series finale of The Brady Bunch, which includes Greg graduating from high school, I was thinking that the expedition to South America could be led by one of his college instructors...Professor Maynard G. Krebs.

    Authors have postulated that John's "Lost Weekend" period was a reemergence of his pre-fame youth. This was the John who'd go on stage in Hamburg with a toilet seat around his neck and taunt his audience of "Fucking Nazis!" to "Sieg Heil!"
  10. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    The Troubadour Incident Part 2 - Harry and John v. The Smothers Brothers.

    At some point in 1973, Nilsson - a fan of standup comedy - had dropped into a club in Georgetown to see Tom Smothers working through a new set of material before reuniting with his brother Dick. That night, through sheer nerves, Tom went through his act too fast, and Nilsson came to his aid with some witty heckling that gave the comedian a chance to engage the crowd with one-liner riposes and complete his set at the proper time.

    On March 13, 1974, Harry took John Lennon to see the Smothers Brothers' open their new joint act at the Troubadour. While on the way to the club, Harry told John about the incident with Tommy Smothers the year before and said that Tommy encouraged heckling and that he felt it enhanced Tommy's performance. It was therefore with the intention of helping the brothers that night that Harry egged John on.

    John and Harry, accompanied by May Pang, were seated in the V.I.P. section of the club, where former Rat Packer Peter Lawford, Leonard Nimoy, Cliff Robertson and Pam Grier were in attendance. The trouble begin when Nilsson took the occasion to introduce John to Brandy Alexanders. The drink, consisting of brandy, ice cream or heavy cream, and dark creme de cacao, tasted like a milkshake to John, and he downed them accordingly. They took effect slowly, and after the first set, John and Harry were serenading the attendees with Ann Peebles' "I Can't Stand The Rain."

    Once Tommy and Dick were back onstage, the two songbirds were too lubricated to stop. Lawford repeatedly (and heatedly) stage-whispered to Lennon, telling him to knock it off. This only fueled John's belligerence, as profanities began flying in all directions, (John at one point telling Lawford to "Go f*ck a cow!") disrupting the act and drawing unwanted attention fromt he club's attendees. Lawford then got up from his table and found the club's manager, warning that if the manager couldn't silence Lennon, he would take it upon himself to do so.

    Meanwhile, the Smothers Brothers' manager, Ken Fritz, decided to handle things himself, approaching John and Harry's table to make a personal appeal. This only resulted in punches (John hitting Ken in the Jaw) - and a glass - being thrown, with more innocent bystanders getting pulled into the melee. A table overturned and slammed down on Pam Grier's toes, painfully breaking three of them, while bouncers were summoned to ensure John's swift departure.

    The club's bouncers had Lennon out of the place within seconds, and by 12:20am, he was on the sidewalk, his entire visit having lasted little over half an hour. During the fracas, John's glasses came off his head. Now outside the club and nearly blind, he threw punches wildly, apparently striking photographer Brenda Perkins in the eye. She filed charges at the sheriff's office a short while later and sued Lennon for damages.

    Tomorrow - The aftermath.
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2024
  11. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Did Germany notice? :rommie:

    Not on any Rolling Stone list ever.

    Wow, in 1954. That's fantastic.

    "All your base are belong to us."

    I'm picturing naked Norwegians reciting free-form verse on a bare stage with bad reception.

    And this is not a holiday why?!

    We'll be hearing from Peter Lawford again in about twenty years.

    RIP, Senor Ferrari.

    Yup, that's a goodie.

    Not bad.

    No new #1 with a titanium-alloy variant cover?

    Jeepers! Christie Brinkley is seven years older than me.

    Ike is an interesting character in retrospect. He also was the one who warned about the military-industrial complex.

    Ah, now there's a classic.

    Nobody suspected the miniature alien octopuses.

    Technically, there is nothing wrong with this and it's perfectly acceptable for people to enjoy it if they choose.

    I love the name Professor Longhair. :rommie:

    Sounds like the 40s.

    Who needs a bunker? Just paint your house! :rommie:

    You've got to admire the guy. And talk about culture shock. He's like the Buck Rogers of Japan.

    The first man was launched into space about three weeks before I was born. The first American traveled to space around the time I was coming home from the hospital. My life basically corresponds to the Space Age. :rommie:

    I never even imagined he was a piano player. :rommie:

    It was also the Happy Days theme at this point.

    I think it was syndicated. It was such a Gilligan rip off. I remember wondering why they didn't just bring back Gilligan's Island.

    That's a fantastic idea. Maynard grows up to be a Timothy Leary-style college professor. They go to South America in search of a very special lickable frog. :rommie:

    Now I'm wondering how he managed to live as long as he did. :rommie:

    The long and winding road to hell is paved with good intentions. :rommie:

    There's an interesting bunch.

    Uh oh....

    Okay, he just crossed the line into unforgivable.

    I can't wait to see how he avoids deportation. If he does.
  12. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut

    50th Anniversary Viewing


    "Skywatch: Part 2"
    Originally aired March 5, 1974
    In lieu of a recap, the episode commences about 3-1/2 minutes before Part I left off, replaying the entire sequence from when Air-70 was returning to the heliport and the officers were assigned to pursue the plane. As the police copters approach, Pollard veers his plane back toward them, forcing them to take evasive action. Air-70 continues the pursuit, with Malloy talking to Pollard on the radio. Pollard (voice of Sam Edwards) says that he didn't see them because of the sun, and it turns out that his main motivation is getting away from his nagging wife of 22 years. When Mrs. Pollard (voice of Julie Bennett) is put on the radio, Ethel goads Harvey into killing himself, which actually helps in a reverse-psychological way, as Harvey resolves to turn himself in and get a reprieve from her in jail.

    Air-10 returns to the heliport, where Reed recommends to Mac that one officer from each unit take turns going up in the choppers. Then Reed gets a call from Malloy that Air-70 is involved in a post-211 pursuit in which the suspects have split up into two vehicles, so Air-10 takes off again to assist.

    Mac: So long, Sky King.​

    Air-10 tails the green LTD to a suburban residence, where a pair of detective units led by 1-King-9 (voice of John Nolan) swoop in to make the arrest. Air-70 pursues the blue Mustang convertible, which attempts to evade the chopper, but is sealed in by various black and white units barricading the intersections out of the neighborhood they're in. The suspects proceed on foot through residential properties...Malloy startling one of them via P.A., causing him to fall into a pool. He subsequently loses sight of the second suspect, but uniformed officers guided to the suspect's likely whereabouts find him hiding in nearby bushes.

    As the officers show up at the heliport for another watch, Malloy is informed that Mac needs him back to sub for Woods's partner on night watch; while Reed proceeds to go up with Walters in Air-10. At the station, Malloy advocates the virtues of the program, declaring that ground units will come to find the copters as useful as the police radio.

    Mac: Well, everybody resists change.
    Pete: I'll bet it was that way when the radios first came in back in the '30s. I'll bet the guys resisted them at first, but when you found out what you could do with 'em, I'll bet you were all for 'em, weren't you, Mac?​

    As Walters and Reed patrol an industrial area by night for 459s, they smell smoke and see a house on fire. Reed calls in units--including Adam-12, manned by Malloy and Woods--and makes a P.A. evacuation announcement to the neighbors. Reed and Walters watch from above and Malloy helps a woman out of the burning house and a fire engine arrives. Reed notes to Walters that he plans to recommend that the air units be familiarized with which units are available in the areas they're patrolling.

    Another note about the return of Officer Walters is that his first name seems to have changed from Jerry to Lou...probably to avoid redundancy with Jerry Woods.


    "Come Eleven, Come Twelve"
    Originally aired March 7, 1974
    In Chicago, Ed escorts the prisoner cuffed to his wrist, David Cutter (Andy Robinson), to the airport in a delivery van...but a well-informed man staking out the place (Paul Kent) is in the know and joins them on their flight to Frisco, taking the seat behind Ed. A talkative passenger in the seat across the aisle, hardware salesman Orville Smithers (David Huddleston--High-billed guest alert!), chats up Ed. The plan, we learn back at the Cave, is to persuade Cutter to identify who hired him to commit a murder. After dinner on the plane, Smithers--who took interest at the sight of the man in the seat behind Ed--listens as Cutter describes his childhood and argues in favor of learning to trust people.

    The plane is delayed when it makes an unscheduled landing in Reno due to a malfunction, and the passengers have to disembark to the terminal. Ed has a security guard escort him to an office. The Chief calls Ed from Frisco airport with an update that he plans to charter a plane to Reno to pick them up; but the Chief finds that the only available jet had just been chartered by gentlemen named Philips and Wilkens, who are also headed to Reno. Back at Reno, the well-informed man, who's apparently a Five-O fan, slips into the restroom to fit a silencer on his .357 Magnum! But outside the restroom, the gunman--identified afterward as Tim Waller, suspected of having racketeering connections--is picked up and disarmed by security personnel who've been tipped off by Smithers.

    Ed sets up a rendezvous with the Chief at a rural airfield outside of Reno, and secures a rental car with a security guard named Ted Kelly driving. But when Ed notices that they're being tailed, he has the driver take them onto an old dirt road and let them out, heading to an abandoned bar nearby that the driver knows about. At the airfield, the Chief learns from the local sheriff (George Murdock) that Kelly has been killed in an accident. At the scene of the accident, the Chief suspects foul play, and notices that the car's odometer has several unaccounted-for miles on it since it left Reno Airport. At his hideout, Ed hears on the radio about Kelly's death and Cutter becomes increasingly excited that his buddies are coming to bust him loose. (The episode title comes from his recurring tendency to express his confidence that his luck is changing in terms of rolling an eleven.)

    Meanwhile, Philips and Wilkens (Paul Comi and Michael Strong) get out of their rental car in the wilderness looking for Ed and Cutter. The Chief learns that Philips and Wilkens got a message from an unidentified party on the flight notifying them of the layover. At the bar, Ed and Cutter get an unexpected visitor, a prospector named Pete Wilson who says that he uses the bar occasionally (Bill Zuckert), and offers to help them get to the airfield but ends up pulling a shotgun on Ed. It turns out that he's just an opportunistic robber, and Cutter tries unsuccessfully to buy his help. Wilson leaves the pair cuffed to a pipe, and is spotted by the syndicate duo and beaten for info. The duo go to the bar and make clear their intent to fulfill their contract to off Cutter...but are taken down in an exchange of fire when the sheriff and Mark arrive behind them, some distinctive gravel having led them to the right road in the search area.

    The Sheriff takes TI and Cutter back to Reno Airport, where Ed approaches Smithers and asks him some questions; following which Smithers tries to charter a plane but is taken into the security office to face the Chief, who's determined that he was the "Mr. Smith" who hired the hitmen and previously Cutter.

    To round out the various Trek guests, Ken Lynch also appears as a contact of the Chief's at Frisco Airport, presumably a head of security.


    The Brady Bunch
    "The Hair-Brained Scheme"
    Originally aired March 8, 1974
    Series finale
    Greg brings home his cap and gown; while Bobby gets a package of hair tonic that he ordered for selling, thinking that it will make him rich. Inspired to work a scheme of her own, Cindy gets a pair of rabbits named Romeo and Juliet with the intent of breeding them. Bobby goes door to door with Oliver accompanying him, but strikes out with a series of potential customers, including one who wears a toupee (Brandy Carson, Bern Hoffman, and John Wheeler). Carol encourages Bobby not to give up with a speech that was probably written for Mike.

    Carol: Now take Thomas Edison, for instance. Did he quit?
    Bobby: No.
    Carol: How 'bout the Wright Brothers, did they quit?
    Bobby: No.
    Carol: And how about Carl Mahakian?
    Bobby: Carl Mahakian? Never heard of him.
    Carol: That's right, 'cause he quit!​

    Greg charitably offers to buy a bottle to look good for graduation, but Bobby insists on helping him use it to make sure that Greg isn't just humoring him. Bobby splits when he sees the result--the tonic having instantly turned Greg's hair orange (obviously a wig).

    After Carol avoids explaining to Oliver why Romeos don't have babies...

    Oliver: You know something, Cindy?...I think your mom has a problem about discussing sex.​

    Bobby tries to avoid his angry oldest brother, who catches up with him in Mike's den, with Carol intervening (also potentially written for Mike). She finds that the Neat & Natural Company's phone has been disconnected, and subsequently that the FDA shut them down. Greg tries unsuccessfully to wash the color out. Carol's solution (which probably was written for Carol) is to take him to a ladies' hair salon, where he wears a ski hat and is embarrassed to be seen by two classmates who are also there to look good for graduation that night, Suzie and Gretchen (Florence Henderson's daughter Barbara Bernstein and Sherwood Schwartz's daughter Hope Sherwood). He makes up a story about being there with his mom, who's secretly bald and wearing a wig.

    Cindy learns that she got two Romeos, and the pet shop owner won't take them back; while Bobby starts to pour his bottles of tonic down the sink. When Greg comes back home with his hair dyed its normal color, Bobby accidentally spills some of the tonic on the rabbits, turning them a splotchy orange. Afterward Bobby announces that he was able to sell the rabbits and the tonic to the pet shop owner, who was more interested in selling orange rabbits. Bobby gets the idea to invest his money in a new mail-order scheme to raise worms.

    In the coda, the family comes home from Greg's graduation and there's discussion about who'll get his room, Marcia or Peter...with Oliver suggesting that they turn it into a guest room so he can stay in it.

    It'd be intersting to know what they intended to do with Greg if they had gone into another season. They easily enough could have had him attend a community college, but they were indicating otherwise here.


    The Odd Couple
    "New York's Oddest"
    Originally aired March 8, 1974
    Felix comes home to excitedly tell Oscar of how he helped deliver a baby (to be named Unger Wu) in Times Square, while nobody else paid any attention. Underscoring the point of Felix's story, Oscar doesn't notice when Felix belatedly faints from the experience. Fortunately, a visitor comes to the door who sees Felix lying on the floor.

    Murray (to Oscar): So, you finally did it, huh?​

    When a revived Felix bemoans the apathy of the crowds, Murray tells him about a civilian police reserve course, which Felix attends with Miriam. In his usual fashion, the overeager Felix gets on the nerves of the instructor, Sergeant Chomsky (Michael Lerner). Oscar drops in wanting to report how he was mugged on the street to Murray, again with nobody stopping to help...a pair of bystanders having callously taken his cab while it was happening. Murray directs him to an officer on another floor named Cunningham...! Felix comes home feeling empowered after Chomsky picks him out as a judo sparring partner, and reveals that he signed Oscar up to join him on patrol. Felix tries to demonstrate judo, but can't flip Oscar over his shoulder.

    After Oscar fails Felix's uniform inspection, the two are going out on patrol when Felix tries to arrest a subletting neighbor he's unfamiliar with named Mort Bennick (Billy Sands), who's carrying his portable TV set out for repair...Felix damaging the set further by causing Bennick to drop it before the neighbor's identity is verified by his wife (Lassie Ahern). At a code seven, Felix is trying to apologize to an embarrassed Oscar when he spots a man walking into the diner with a gun tucked in his belt under his jacket (George Jordan). When Felix flashes his badge, the narcotics detective flashes his back. Felix loudly tells Oscar what the man's profession is, and a couple of patrons vamoose out of the establishment.

    Back at the apartment building, Oscar declines to stand watch in the hall with Felix. Felix twice draws the ire of his neighbors by testing his faulty whistle. (I get the impression that Felix may have already drilled them given how they all come out so promptly.) When Felix comes upon an actual stocking-masked burglar, he tries to blow his whistle but nobody comes. Oscar later comes out to apologize and finds Felix tied and gagged in his chair. When the neighbors come out at another whistle blow and learn of Felix's predicament, they applaud.

    In the coda, Chomsky bestows a medallion to Felix for having subsequently identified the burglar.


    You'd know stuff like this if you watched Trains Unlimited.



    And later covered by the King.

    I should note that my policy until now in the various eras has been not to include births of future celebrities...but so many good names were coming up in the 70th anniversary timeline that I've decided to make it an exception.

    And the Bay of Pigs operation was initiated on his watch and left in Kennedy's lap.

    A creature feature goodie!

    (Never mind the leeches and piranhas...)

    I find this one underwhelming.

    Of this season's lame-o trad pop chart-toppers, I found this one the most interesting.

    An astounding bit of commercially motivated propaganda.

    He seemed like a pretty likeable guy.

    I wonder if he knows "Midnight Special"?

    It was.

    I can't recall ever reading that Nimoy was there, and I'm sure I would have noticed that.

    The manager was confused when Lawford referred to the drunken, heckling Beatle as "Ringo".

    He makes up for this.

    We know that he didn't get deported.
  13. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    The Troubadour Incident Part 3 - Aftermath

    This comes straight from Chapter 7 of Harry Nilsson's biography and I'll let the participant explain what happened next.

    Nilsson, who had followed Lennon out into the street after the fray, realized he would have to mobilize himself and his friends to protect Lennon's name. His thoughts immediately turned to Jimmy Webb, who said:

    "I remember it very well, because they came over to my house the next morning. And Harry again - it was one of those - when Harry wakes you up at nine o'clock in the morning, you know there's trouble. There's something up. He's either gonna steal your car, or something untoward is going to happen. He woke me up at nine o'clock and he says, 'What're you doin'? I need you to go with me right now.'
    I said, 'Are your crazy? What's going on?'
    He said, 'I've got John Lennon in the car.' He said, 'C'mon, c'mon!' I went downstairs and sure enough he had a limousine, and in the back of the limousine was Mr. Lennon. And he says, 'You gotta go with us downtown. John's gotta give a deposition in front of an attorney.' I said, 'Why on earth do I need to go?' He said, 'Because you were at The Troubadour last night, with us, and you saw the whole thing. And John never laid the glove on anybody. Got that?' So here I am in the back of a limo, going downtown to the attorney with John and Harry and I'm going, 'Let's see, what's my story again?' Terrifying because I am going to perjure myself. But you see, there was a code. An inflexible, unbreakable code. And it was the power and a strength that came along with Harry . . . anyone who loved him and was his friend did whatever he wanted them to do. Whenever he wanted them to do it."

    In an effort to placate the Smothers Brothers and the club owner Doug Weston, Lennon and Harry sent them apologetic notes attached to bunches of carnations and chrysanthemums. Eventually, after a two week investigation, Robert Immerman, the Deputy District Attorney, dropped the charges against Lennon on the basis of insufficient evidence. Lennon would be allowed to stay in the country a little while longer while his imigration status was sorted out; but he was on a very short leash with the authorities. Lennon settled out of court with Brenda Perkins for an undisclosed sum.

    I discuss the 'Pussy Cats' sessions and Lennon and McCartney's reunion once we get closer to the actual March 28, 1974 date.
  14. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    John also reportedly sent Pam Grier flowers and an apology note.
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  15. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Ooh, just like a movie serial.

    A lawyer would have been a better move. Is he stoned or did he just crack?

    I guess the cops didn't count on that. I wonder what the charges for this would be, especially since she did it over an official channel.

    "What's a guy gotta do to get solitary?"

    There's another show I used to watch with Mom over Saturday breakfast, a long time ago. They also showed Lone Ranger and Rin Tin Tin. This was before the proliferation of retro channels, so I'm not sure what we were watching.

    Despite these being like bottle episodes, it seems to me that they must have been more expensive to shoot than normal ones.

    "Watch it, kid, or I'll sic Dan Matthews on your ass."

    I wonder how realistic this is. It seems to me that a fire big enough to be smelled from a helicopter would already be obvious to the people in the house and the neighbors.

    They always portray Reed as an idea man. I just remembered one where he suggested putting the unit numbers on the roofs of the cars for the benefit of the choppers.

    Garak? Maybe?

    "So whattaya say I just meet you back in Frisco?"

    The pilots are in on it too!

    There must be official ways of transporting prisoners. I'm finding all this kind of hard to swallow. Especially since they're crossing State lines, you'd think Federal marshals or even the FBI would be involved.

    That must have been a pretty big silencer. :rommie:

    Okay, I don't understand this.

    Has Ed lost his marbles?

    Not an evil admiral.

    How could he possibly notice this? :rommie:

    What radio? The deserted bar has a working radio?

    For one brief shining moment, I thought it would be Jim Backus. :rommie:

    It seems like he would have just given them up without needing to be convinced.

    I have to say, this one seemed like kind of a mess.

    Making for kind of a clever title.

    Has Oliver ever actually done anything in his brief time with the Bradys?

    Didn't this happen to one of the girls before?

    Wow! On the Bradys? In 1974? :rommie:

    On TV, they see a commercial from Sokolov & Sokolov announcing a class-action lawsuit.

    Cute. I wonder if this was a budget-saving maneuver. Or just Bring-Your-Daughter-To-Work Day. :rommie:

    I hope he split the loot with Cindy.

    It seems like the show's time had come, all things considered.

    Happy 50th birthday to Unger Wu.


    It's a jungle out there.

    So that's what happened to Chuck.

    This is another scene I kind of remember. I think they're applauding Oscar because they think he's the one who tied and gagged Felix.

    There's so much to learn....

    Yeah, that's true. We're only seven years away from my vegetative milestones.

    True. People don't generally realize that administrations don't exist in isolation.

    Ah, Julie Adams and her white bathing suit. She should have had sequels of her own. :rommie:

    Have you ever seen The African Queen?

    I actually like the 40s sound, because it reminds me of old movies.

    If only he had teamed up with Elvis. :rommie:

    Oh, that's hilarious. :rommie:

    Actually, I know pretty much nothing about the personal lives of the Beatles. Of course, I knew he would have made it back, at least....

    I wonder what shape Lennon was in. I'm picturing him comatose and snoring.

    Indeed. Did he ever get in trouble for this?

    Hmm. That seems a bit too easy.

    Flowers and a note would have been my first move as soon as I saw her there. :rommie:
  16. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    Coming back to this, I meant to note that John's behavior was in compliance with the club owner's instruction that they "Mach Schau!"--give their drunken sailor patrons more of a performance than just playing music. And the Beatles were playing their long, late-night sets hopped up on pills.

    I noticed after my post for Part 1 that Uncle Jack used the episode title "Air Support"...which isn't too big a deal for a show with no onscreen episode titles, though they may have been appearing in TV listings.

    Stoned in the old sense that he was drunk...and cracking at the same time, it seems.

    Probably a motivation for not having many guests. There was also some noticeable re-use of shots, including Pete's reaction shots while they were flying around the city.

    But people were sleeping.

    That was in Part 1.

    Yep, that's how he was being billed in those days...when he would have been best known as the serial killer in Dirty Harry.

    It wasn't an uncommon trope in TV at the time to depict prisoners being escorted by a single officer whom they were cuffed to. And they were improvising because of the unscheduled layover.

    There was some brief exposition later that Walters was being sacrificed as a diversion or somesuch...though I think it was more for the audience's benefit than Team Ironside's.

    He was trying to shake hitmen who were poised to strike.


    Well, it was ramshackle and untended, but still apparently being used as an outpost/clubhouse by people like the prospector.


    Not too much, for all the fuss. Though we did miss two of his episodes that aren't on P+.

    Not that I can recall offhand. Jan did take to wearing a dark wig in one episode.

    I thought that'd be noteworthy.

    4-1/3 years younger than the Smart twins, Jim Reed Jr., and me.

    Ah, maybe.

    There was a lot of resistance to diesel engines because they cut down train crews from five men to two and pretty much changed the whole working lifestyle.

    :lol: By which point one of this season's new arrivals will already be a beloved TV celebrity.

    And yet it all worked out, like destiny...the Bay of Pigs fiasco was a vital learning experience for Kennedy in how not to handle the Cuban Missile Crisis...and thus we're here to talk about it.

    I did catch that a few years back, but my memory of the details is vague.

    It was just a funny, so thank you. I was riffing on the recurring SNL gag of having Rat Packers refer to Dana Carvey's Paul as Ringo.

    Well, you did recently post how different things might have been if he'd been deported.

    Guess they're safe coming out about it decades later...the California statute of limitations for perjury is three years.

    John's note reportedly read, "Thank you for not beating me up." :lol:
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  17. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    My Nilsson and Lennon books don't go into any detail as to why the charges were dropped; however, if I were to guess, it probably representented a bad incident all around and everyone wanted to move past it as quickly as possible. John and Harry had appologized to the parties involved and the Smothers Brothers came to John's defense at the hearing.
    I'm sure the Assistant DA knew that Webb was lying, based upon interviewing other witnesses in the Troubadour that night, but what would have fining and jailing Webb have done. I'm sure there was other more pressing cases that needed his attention.
    The immediate after-effect was that John remained mostly clean and sober the rest of his time in L.A. and would focus his energies on producing Harry's new album 'Pussy Cats.'
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  18. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    We lost a Pop Rock pioneer today. Eric Carmen of the Raspberries died in his sleep over the weekend at the age of 74.

    John Lennon was apparently a fan.


    This photo was taken during the recording of Nilsson's 'Pussy Cats' sessions in late-March/early-April 1974. According to Eric Carmen in his autobiography, he participated in the sessions by adding backing vocals to 'Loop de Loop' and 'Rock Around the Clock' to help enhance/sweeten Nilsson's flagging voice.

    Eric also says in biography, that, once back in New York, working on his 'Walls and Bridges' album in the summer of 1974, Lennon, who was in the same building, stopped by the studio during a break in recording to lend an uncredited hand in the production of the Raspberries album 'Starting Over', by offering suggestions as to how the songs should be mixed.

    This year marks the 50th Anniversary of the Raspberries final album 'Starting Over'. Rolling Stone magazine would rank it their number one album of the year in their 1974 'end of year' review.

    After the Raspberries broke up in 1974, Eric had a Number 2 hit with the song 'All By Myself' in December 1975. It would be his highest charting single.

    Eric would return to the Top Ten thirteen years later with the song 'Hungry Eyes' from the soundtrack to the movie Dirty Dancing.

    I wouldn't call it one of my biggest regrets, but The Raspberries played at Disneyland's 'House of Blues' on their reunion tour the week after my family and I visited in 2005. I would have found a way to go. I've read the show was phenomenal.
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  19. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    I'll bet he regretted those instructions. :rommie:

    I didn't notice that either. Weird, since neither title was especially compelling.

    Yeah. :rommie:

    Yeah, but think about what it's like for them-- up in the sky, in a bubble, the blades blowing air away from them, making noise (which distracts the other senses). For them to smell it under those conditions, it would have to be some rip-roaring blaze.

    Aha. Cool.

    Right, I remember that.

    I need to remember to research this. I'm curious if it was ever actually done.

    Seems like he's just making it easier for them to dispose of the bodies by heading willy nilly into the desert.

    Well, yeah, but it seems kind of random. He would have to get the starting mileage from the rental place and compare it to the wreck-- and what would it really tell him? They may have made a stop at McDonald's or something.

    Ah, okay.

    Those must be his episodes. Maybe that's why they're not on there. :rommie:

    It seems familiar. Must be another show.

    Technology will take all our jobs!

    A child star in 1961? Hmm.

    We should always remember how lucky we've been-- multiple times. :rommie:

    There's a scene with leeches, with Bogart at the top of his game.

    I wasn't familiar with that. Still hilarious. :rommie:

    That's great. :rommie:


    Also true.

    Scared straight!

    I certainly remember him for "All By Myself," which is a great song. I'm not sure if I knew he was part of the Raspberries. I was going to say there's quite a different sound, but, upon reflection, it's really not. RIP, Eric Carmen.
  20. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    I think this actually broke Monday night. I meant to mention it.

    The boys also had the club's bouncer, Horst Fascher, looking out for them.

    Come Eleven, Come Twelve (1974) (

    More of a brushy woods.

    That's exactly what he did...and when he pressed the sheriff for distance info, it came to a difference of about 12 miles, I think.

    He's in good company with Davy Jones.

    I looked it up, and yeah, that vaguely rings a bell.

    From my viewing experience, it started with Phil Hartman as Sinatra and occurred at least once more with Tom Hanks guesting as Dean Martin. There may have been other incidents. But if you never saw Dana Carvey's Paul, that was a real hoot! This was ca. 1990, when Paul was in the media a lot because he was back out on tour for the first time in over a decade.

    Found one of them:
    Watch Saturday Night Live Clip: The Global Warming Christmas Special -
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