The Borg Queen has temporal intuition?

[Borg Queen]

I wonder if this intuition came from the assimilation of the El-Auria. That would also be a connection to Guinan and the Borg Queen which could be used if a younger version of Guinan is in 2024 Los Angeles.

There was a theory that the Borg originally assimilated the Wolf 359 fleet but since that took more time the Borg was defeated earlier so in the proper timeline the Borg Queen knew this so she just destroyed the fleet.

I'm wondering where they're going with this...

 

[Quinton]

I feel like if anyone would know the answer to this question it would surely have to be you.

 

[Borg Queen]

Nothing wrong with getting second opinions.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Borg Queen to Picard/Locutus: "You think in such three-dimensional terms. How small you've become."

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[jackoverfull]

I think Guinan’s temporal awareness came from the nexus, though, not from being el-aurian.

 

[Crazyewok]

I think Guinan’s temporal awareness came from the nexus, though, not from being el-aurian.

In yesterdays enterprise she knew something was wrong with that timeline.

 

[Rhodan]

Well, it would make sense their insight into temporal mechanics and technology is something more than just plot device for one movie.

 

[jackoverfull]

In yesterdays enterprise she knew something was wrong with that timeline.

yes. And I believe she knew it because she had been influenced by the nexus.

 

[Borg Queen]

I think Guinan’s temporal awareness came from the nexus, though, not from being el-aurian.

That depends on if you go by the finished Generations movie or the comic or novel based on an earlier version of the screenplay.

 

[Guy Gardener]

yes. And I believe she knew it because she had been influenced by the nexus.

So Picard should have had Nexus powers too since Generations?

 

[F. King Daniel]

So Picard should have had Nexus powers too since Generations?

Why not, he's had Bullet Time powers since Insurrection.

 

[Borg Queen]

So Picard should have had Nexus powers too since Generations?

No. I believe it was because she and the rest of the El-Aurians were partially beamed away and left echos. Part of them was still in the Nexus. So they had access to the "infinite possibilities of existence" as Q once stated.

 

[Deks]

Why not, he's had Bullet Time powers since Insurrection.

Bullet Time powers?
I don't understand.

yes. And I believe she knew it because she had been influenced by the nexus.

Well, I can certainly see how this would be the case because she was essentially yanked from the Nexus in the 23rd century by ENT-B... so a fragment of her remains there.

However, that doesn't mean the process would have repeated itself on Picard.

El-Aurians are very long lived and could have had partial trans-temporal awareness on some level (maybe very rudimentary), which in Guinan, Soren and other El-Aurian refugees would have been 'enhanced' when they came into contact with the Nexus in the 23rd century (but there's 0 guarantee other species would experience same enhancement).

But, Guinan was already perceived as a threat by Q... since they had dealings two centuries prior to 'Q who' episode (aka, around 100 years before Guinan ended up in the Nexus briefly)... so, around during 2160-ies (or just after the UFP was founded).

From what I understood in Generations, it seemed like Guinan came into contact with the Nexus just that one time in the 23rd century (when she was yanked from it by ENT-B).

I'd surmise that while her temporal awareness could come from the Nexus, it could also be something different before she was in the Nexus since she had dealings with Q

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

So Picard should have had Nexus powers too since Generations?

No, since he left the Nexus willingly.

Guinan has "powers" because she was 'pulled...ripped away" (via the Enterprise-B's transporter). If she had left the Nexus by normal means, like Picard and Kirk did, presumably that wouldn't have happened.

Edit: Ninja'd by @Borg Queen.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It could go either way with Guinan (and El-Aurians in general). The whole Guinan standing up to Q and the hint of some sort of power may point to abilities not caused by the Nexus, since that only happened 80 years or so earlier.

Though we didn't see any abilities in Time's Arrow, did we? That doesn't preclude Guinan having powers of some sort at the time, they just didn't need her to use any powers.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Though we didn't see any abilities in Time's Arrow, did we?

No, we didn't.

Also, Dr. Soran never had such powers, did he? He was pulled away from the Nexus just like Guinan was, yet we never see him act that way.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

No, we didn't.

Also, Dr. Soran never had such powers, did he? He was pulled away from the Nexus just like Guinan was, yet we never see him act that way.

Soran was a bit....how do we say, insane?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ I wouldn't call Soran insane.

Grief-stricken, yes. But he seemed to still have most of his wits about him.

 

[Mondragon]

You all, already put more thought into this than the writers of this show.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

yes. And I believe she knew it because she had been influenced by the nexus.

Nothing about the nexus suggests I would do this. Why does Picard not have the same power