The Big Goodbye - Cool Episode!

[Red Ranger]

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I think the black and white would have been too much. They already borrowed too much from Falcon as it was that it would have just made it silly.

With BoC, the black and white worked because the episode wasn't a homage to anything specific and relished in its camp.

On the contrary, Corporal. The Captain Proton stuff was an homage to 1940s black & white science fiction action serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, as well as TV shows like Captain Video. Dr. Chaotica was supposed to be like Ming the Merciless, Flash Gordon's nemesis. -- RR

 

[Kegek]

Film noir's black and white, with its moody lighting and delicate shadows, is such a cliched staple of noir the episode would have been automatically more cooler with it than without it. So I think it would have fit the homage perfectly.

 

[Red Ranger]

Film noir's black and white, with its moody lighting and delicate shadows, is such a cliched staple of noir the episode would have been automatically more cooler with it than without it. So I think it would have fit the homage perfectly.

Plus, how cool would it have been to see Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner in black & white? -- RR

 

[CorporalClegg]

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I think the black and white would have been too much. They already borrowed too much from Falcon as it was that it would have just made it silly.

With BoC, the black and white worked because the episode wasn't a homage to anything specific and relished in its camp.

On the contrary, Corporal. The Captain Proton stuff was an homage to 1940s black & white science fiction action serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, as well as TV shows like Captain Video. Dr. Chaotica was supposed to be like Ming the Merciless, Flash Gordon's nemesis. -- RR

You misunderstood. I said "wasn't an homage to anything specific" meaning it was more to the genre in general where as Big Goodbye was a direct spoof of Maltese Falcon.

 

[RAMA]

A lot of people probably don't think of the metaphysical questions of this episode first, instead of the gangster trappings, but the question of what happens to the characters AFTER they are active in a holodeck program was a very interesting one and why the episode won a Peabody Award.

RAMA

 

[Kegek]

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We probably think of it less because the issue broached in the episode was frequently repeated in holodeck malfunction episodes (such as "Elementary My Dear Data" and its sequel "Ship in a Bottle"); not to mention VOY where the presence of the Doctor made it a staple of the show.

But yeah, "The Big Goodbye" was the first episode to raise the idea of a possible identity for these playthings. I always liked that bit where a character asks Picard if; when he goes to visit his wife and children, they'll really be there or not.

And CorporalClegg; "The Big Goodbye" was an homage to noir in general; even it took more than a few cues from The Maltese Falcon. Just as Captain Proton was an homage to sci-fi serials in general but mainly the Flash Gordon ones.

 

[Keith1701]

I like it.

Though, of all the Star Trek “spoofs” this probably my least favorite, but that has a lot to do with the fact that “The Maltese Falcon” is one of my top five all-time favorite movies.

This is one one of the better episodes from Star Trek ~ TNG!!!

 

[Red Ranger]

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I think the black and white would have been too much. They already borrowed too much from Falcon as it was that it would have just made it silly.

With BoC, the black and white worked because the episode wasn't a homage to anything specific and relished in its camp.

On the contrary, Corporal. The Captain Proton stuff was an homage to 1940s black & white science fiction action serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon, as well as TV shows like Captain Video. Dr. Chaotica was supposed to be like Ming the Merciless, Flash Gordon's nemesis. -- RR

You misunderstood. I said "wasn't an homage to anything specific" meaning it was more to the genre in general where as Big Goodbye was a direct spoof of Maltese Falcon.

Ah. Guess I was being a bit too literal, Corporal. I did want to point out how there was original material Captain Proton was paying homage, to, though. The Big Goodbye was generally an homage to The Maltese Falcon as well as other film noirs inspired by Raymond Chandler. -- RR

 

[Red Ranger]

A lot of people probably don't think of the metaphysical questions of this episode first, instead of the gangster trappings, but the question of what happens to the characters AFTER they are active in a holodeck program was a very interesting one and why the episode won a Peabody Award.

RAMA

Rama:

I should have mentioned that, too. It is why it was a highly regarded ep. It's fun and profound at the same time. I got chills the first time I saw the holodeck close and the lights all went out. I always saw it as a metaphor for life. Where do we go when we die? Is that all there is? Or is there something else beyond our current existence? Scary thoughts.

Red Ranger