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The Better Doctor?

Mojochi

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Usually, Pulaski comes off less favorably than Crusher, in discussions about what person we like better, but I'm curious to know which people think is the better physician. There's a lot that could support pros & cons for both.

I always felt they made more attempts to have Pulaski seem a respected or renowned doctor. That's not to say they necessarily wanted us to think of her as more exceptional than Crusher, just that we should think of her as exceptional. Unfortunately, in 1 season they did it so often, that in comparison to how little they made mention of Crusher similarly, it made it seem like Pulaski was better than her

Honestly, I'm trying to wrack my brain to remember instances where Crusher was heralded as exceptionally outstanding, in some manner, & all I recall is she'd been appointed head of Starfleet Medical, which while a very prestigious appointment, more implies her excellence in leadership & administration, than in physician skill. In fact, similarly, in the series finale, she's captaining her own medical vessel, and while it's possible she's also the CMO. It's also probable someone else would hold that spot, which means once again, she's heralded for leadership.

But at no point do I recall there been any "We have to have Beverly Crusher for this case" kind of moments (I could be forgetting) in the way Pulaski was called on, to take over Picard's artificial heart transplant, for example. Then there's the negative factors to consider, Pulaski exposing herself to a deadly condition in Unnatural Selection, which was less a sign of poor skill, but poor judgement on her own behalf, or Beverly having to take a back seat for a while in Ethics, to a specialist, which is a stunt they never pulled on Pulaski. Beverly too had her share of poor judgement in ways as well. She is kind of the reason for whatever happened in Genesis. It's hard to call these things solely either of their fault though. Yet, she's also on point saving Picard in Tapestry. It can go either way

So where do you weigh in? I'm leaning toward Pulaski at the moment lol
 
At the time I was annoyed and wanted Crusher back. All these years later I'm not so sure I agree with my past self. Pulaski at least had some spice to her, Crusher was (and this is mostly the fault of the writers) pretty bland.

But then, without Crusher returning we wouldn't have had the Dancing Doctor stuff from Data's Day, so I'm torn. ;)

In terms of who was literally the better doctor in the universe of the show? It's a wash for me, though I'm betting "they" consider Crusher to be the better of the two.
 
In terms of who was literally the better doctor in the universe of the show? It's a wash for me, though I'm betting "they" consider Crusher to be the better of the two.
I feel like you're right, but they certainly didn't show it that way though... & admittedly, such is most likely the case, because conflict & failure make for much better drama, conflict Pulaski never got to be the bearer of in her short stay
 
Wasn't the initial idea for the guest Doc in Ethics to be Pulaski? (Not sure if that was fanon or not, but would have been cool.)
 
In terms of who was literally the better doctor in the universe of the show? It's a wash for me, though I'm betting "they" consider Crusher to be the better of the two.

Well, Dr Crusher is the one of the two that we know to have incorrectly diagnosed death.
 
House misdiagnoses two or three times per episode, and he's supposedly the best there is. ;)
 
Every doctor we’ve seen so far in Trek, whether McCoy, Crusher or the EMH, they all seemed to be experts in their field.

As far as Crusher/Pulaski goes: they both seemed equally competent. Although I prefer Pulaski because she brought some much needed drama to the show. I really liked her development when it comes to Data. First she saw him as merely a machine, but that changed when she got to know him a bit better.
 
Considering the sheer amount of technology at their disposal, it's hard to gauge which one is even a decent doctor. Whatever the story demanded is what we saw as far as their actual medical skills.

Which is why it always comes down to who we think was the better character, and they both had pros and cons for me as well.

I agree Crusher was bland, but much nicer to look at. Pulaski's McCoy-lite act would've gotten old if she had stayed. She didn't do lovably gruff as well as DeForest Kelley.
 
Considering the sheer amount of technology at their disposal, it's hard to gauge which one is even a decent doctor. Whatever the story demanded is what we saw as far as their actual medical skills.

Which is why it always comes down to who we think was the better character, and they both had pros and cons for me as well.

I agree Crusher was bland, but much nicer to look at. Pulaski's McCoy-lite act would've gotten old if she had stayed. She didn't do lovably gruff as well as DeForest Kelley.

I admit, it would be interesting to see if Pulaski developed into something more than McCoy-lite had she stayed.
 
Wasn't the initial idea for the guest Doc in Ethics to be Pulaski? (Not sure if that was fanon or not, but would have been cool.)
I don't if that's true or not, but it felt like something they'd have wanted... And it would've been awesome!

I honestly think Pulaski would have brought much better medical drama to the show than Crusher did. She just seemed to play a doctor more engagingly. I can see them making more medicine themed episodes with her than they did with Crusher, which could've been a good thing
 
I did not care for Doctor Kate Pulaski, though I did like how she was played differently from The Classic Series characters Diane played. I liked how the series put emphasis on how dedicated she was. But in characterization, she was grating and unattractive. The only time I really liked her as a person was when her ex-lover Kyle Riker came onboard to help his son. It was, perhaps, the only 'good' episode Pulaski had. I also liked how Kate and Kyle, with their one-syllable, K-alike names expressed their continued attraction and mutual interest. They didn't try acting like they were still in their 20's. It was restrained ... but still present and obvious and I credit the actors for that. Otherwise, Kate's attempts at hanging out with the crew always made her seem like a tag-along. An uninvited guest whose presence on off-duty hours is simply tolerated.

Bev, on the other hand, was not only dedicated to her job as a skilled and expert physician, she was so much for Life that she'd bring back the dead! That's right ... and not on anyone's orders, or anything. But due to her own nature and training. This was in the 1st Season episode "Neutral Zone" when she revived 3 Humans from the 20th century. And in "Symbiosis," when Bev goes to bat for those being exploited and intervening on their behalf to a reluctant Picard ... stuff like that really makes me fall in love with her. That's exactly the kind of doctor I want treating me and those I care for and about. As an added bonus, her bedside manner couldn't be better. And when she finds herself hanging out with the crew, during off-duty hours, her presence is welcomed, expected and enjoyed by those around her. I really, well and truly feel that Beverly Crusher is the best of the CMO characters in the whole franchise.
 
all I recall is she'd been appointed head of Starfleet Medical
I personally (head canon) think that Crusher went to Starfleet Medical to be a doctor, and that the whole "Head" of Starfleet Medical was a joke by her shipmates.

And can anyone tell me why Wesley stayed aboard the ship while she was gone? He was only there originally because his mother was assigned to the ship.
But then, without Crusher returning we wouldn't have had the Dancing Doctor stuff from Data's Day, so I'm torn.
Diana Muldaur was old school professional actress, I sure she could have handled the holodeck dancing scene.

I liked Pulaski better as a character, although it might have been interesting if the ship had gotten a new doctor at the beginning of every season.
 
I personally (head canon) think that Crusher went to Starfleet Medical to be a doctor, and that the whole "Head" of Starfleet Medical was a joke by her shipmates.

I guess it depends on what Starfleet Medical is. If it's the hospital we see in "Endgame", then a lowly Commander in charge makes sufficient sense - it's just a tad above a starship in terms of responsibility, and quite possibly loses prestige points for being bolted to the ground. Indeed, starship CMOs might get assigned there for an educational year, against their will, and then allowed to return to their choice assignments.

And can anyone tell me why Wesley stayed aboard the ship while she was gone? He was only there originally because his mother was assigned to the ship.

The dialogue in "The Child" suggests he was going to go with his mum but had to complete his Acting Ensign duties first - and then, thanks to that chat with Guinan, decided he liked those duties and the associated career horizons a lot and wanted to stay for that reason. It's not clear-cut, though.

I mean, we don't get a definite reason for why he didn't leave in the same shuttle with his mother. Did he sign up to do Conn duty for a specific number of days, perhaps, and Bev's departure came as a surprise, or at least at a surprise date? Wes does indicate he is doing what is expected of him, so he might be fulfilling a contract to the hilt.

Which is the better doctor? Pulaski had lots of papers and therapies to her name, while Crusher had few if any. Also, Pulaski demonstrated she could do stuff Crusher could not: she knew several ways of giving LaForge new eyes, and she knew how to wipe memory precisely and permanently, while Crusher failed on both counts.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I honestly can see Beverly leaving Wesley on the Enterprise on the grounds that the guy needed a father figure and she trusts Picard to keep him safe to boot while he does his acting ensign stuff.

And thanks to Timo reminding me what Pulaski has done that Crusher hasn't/failed at...I now imagine the reason Crusher came back was because Starfleet Medical actually wanted Pulaski and they fumbled the paperwork.
 
I guess it depends on what Starfleet Medical is. If it's the hospital we see in "Endgame", then a lowly Commander in charge makes sufficient sense - it's just a tad above a starship in terms of responsibility, and quite possibly loses prestige points for being bolted to the ground. Indeed, starship CMOs might get assigned there for an educational year, against their will, and then allowed to return to their choice assignments.

I've always assuming that "Head of Starfleet Medical" referred to the administrator/clinical lead of the Starfleet Medical Center, San Francisco (seen in ENT: Broken Bow and VOY: Caretaker) rather than the "Chief Doctor of Starfleet" which would be the (Office of the) Starfleet Surgeon General, likely a low to mid-ranked Admiral (McCoy may have held this post at some point between 2293 and 2364). In the real world, the two posts are separate (The WRNMMC is a RADM (occassionally CAPT, once a USMC Maj Gen), whereas the Surgeon General can be anything for a RADML/Maj Gen to a VADM/Lt Gen depending on service, time period and available 'slots' in the promotion allocations).
 
I guess it depends on what Starfleet Medical is. If it's the hospital we see in "Endgame", then a lowly Commander in charge makes sufficient sense - it's just a tad above a starship in terms of responsibility, and quite possibly loses prestige points for being bolted to the ground. Indeed, starship CMOs might get assigned there for an educational year, against their will, and then allowed to return to their choice assignments.



The dialogue in "The Child" suggests he was going to go with his mum but had to complete his Acting Ensign duties first - and then, thanks to that chat with Guinan, decided he liked those duties and the associated career horizons a lot and wanted to stay for that reason. It's not clear-cut, though.

I mean, we don't get a definite reason for why he didn't leave in the same shuttle with his mother. Did he sign up to do Conn duty for a specific number of days, perhaps, and Bev's departure came as a surprise, or at least at a surprise date? Wes does indicate he is doing what is expected of him, so he might be fulfilling a contract to the hilt.

Which is the better doctor? Pulaski had lots of papers and therapies to her name, while Crusher had few if any. Also, Pulaski demonstrated she could do stuff Crusher could not: she knew several ways of giving LaForge new eyes, and she knew how to wipe memory precisely and permanently, while Crusher failed on both counts.

Timo Saloniemi
Exactly. Pulaski is just far more noted, who seemed to have a whole bunch more cred to her name. In fact, I think it was only a few episodes back in, when Bev's getting a little defensive about also knowing how to achieve Pulaski's memory elimination technique (Who Watches The Watchers?) It just came off like a deliberated slam on her credibility.

I'm also finding the discussion about how Starfleet Medical may not be all that prestigious very interesting. I'd never considered that. At face value, I just assumed it was Starfleet's top doc, but given her rank, I guess that doesn't jive

Things are leaning me even more toward Pulaski being the better doc now. lol

As for Wes, it did seem kind of dumb at the time, but I guess it can be somewhat explained away
 
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