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Spoilers The Batman (2022) - Review and Discussion Thread

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  • A*

    Votes: 9 13.6%

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The Knappos said:
There’s a small hint of hope in the closing VO where Patman says (and I forget the exact wording) that his approach so far, reclusive, ‘I am vengeance’ etc is not the way and he needs to find a better one.

That VO and the bits where he’s very clearly empathising with the sons of Riddler’s victims and almost palpably wants to reach out to them to reassure them makes me think that if there are sequels, we’ll see Patman leaning more into what he can do as Bruce Wayne in the community and, possibly, Robin. That’s the vibe I got.

I could be completely wrong, but if The Long Halloween was the inspiration here, maybe they’ll look to Dark Victory as part of the inspiration for the follow up.

Of course that VO was the 30 second coda to a 3 hour film and I finally got the detective film I’ve been hoping for for years, maybe I’m being too hopeful that a lighter tone is also coming. But it seemed at least hinted at
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I think Hollywood knows who their audience are for these things, when I was younger I saw "Batman" and it was quite Gothic but my dad and my brothers LOVED it, but for me the movie had and showed signs the sequel would be more uplifting... Dear God I was wrong, I was terrified by the next one, Batman Returns... I don't think I finished watching it until I was 16 years old. It's frightening and the hero is killing the bad guys and the Penguin was biting peoples noses off and vomiting black... YUCK!

The other two movies were dark but had a more sexual undertones in there which fit the weirdness I thought, and then came BB. A movie where Bruce Wayne goes into a court room and wants to shoot the killer of his parents and then be trained by bad guys??? I heard the same hope the movies would take a different path but Hollywood never does, we got Zack Snyder's Batman where he kills people like Jason Voorhees and in his JL movie he says something like "skull f'ing the Joker" OMG, it is what it is and I personally doubt they'll ever go in a direction I find faithful to the character.

At least I have TAS, the Brave & the Bold, Adam West, and the new Caped Crusader coming out this Fall on HBOMAX. I honestly hope you're right because it would be interesting to see the character clean up New York and pay the light bill for the streets.
 
Finally saw it today and I can officially say that my days of seeing a three hour movie (even with super comfy seats) in a theater are about done. I’m not in the best of shape already and my damn legs started cramping.

Overall, I really enjoyed the movie and got a real kick out of some of the callbacks and easter eggs. It was just about half an hour too long. Solid A- for me, mostly due to the length.
 
STEPhon IT said:
I think Hollywood knows who their audience are for these things, when I was younger I saw "Batman" and it was quite Gothic but my dad and my brothers LOVED it, but for me the movie had and showed signs the sequel would be more uplifting... Dear God I was wrong, I was terrified by the next one, Batman Returns... I don't think I finished watching it until I was 16 years old. It's frightening and the hero is killing the bad guys and the Penguin was biting peoples noses off and vomiting black... YUCK!

The other two movies were dark but had a more sexual undertones in there which fit the weirdness I thought, and then came BB. A movie where Bruce Wayne goes into a court room and wants to shoot the killer of his parents and then be trained by bad guys??? I heard the same hope the movies would take a different path but Hollywood never does, we got Zack Snyder's Batman where he kills people like Jason Voorhees and in his JL movie he says something like "skull f'ing the Joker" OMG, it is what it is and I personally doubt they'll ever go in a direction I find faithful to the character.

At least I have TAS, the Brave & the Bold, Adam West, and the new Caped Crusader coming out this Fall on HBOMAX. I honestly hope you're right because it would be interesting to see the character clean up New York and pay the light bill for the streets.
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Saw it today, not reading rest of thread sorry. I liked it overall. It's not non-stop depression (though there is a fair bit of it!) but it certainly is moody. It's a very grimey, sleazey version of Gotham and I liked how it looked. Bruce is totally devoted to being Batman to the point of neglecting his real life and the movie really shows him as an awkward weirdo, especially when he's hanging around crime scenes and such. It is a bit of a shame we don't get more of him as Bruce because the one scene where he's at a funeral and everyone's like "hey, it's Bruce Wayne!" is fun. Zoe Kravitz was really good as Selina and in her various wigs. Colin Farrell was good as Penguin, and the closest the movie comes to light relief really. I liked that Riddler was a creepy 4chan guy. But this version of Gordon was really weak; he did nothing except repeat the riddles after Bruce read them and try to be Batman's buddy. I know it's not fair to compare to the Nolan trilogy but Gary Oldman's Gordon felt like he could be the lead in a movie of his own whereas this one barely felt like a competent cop. Alfred felt a bit underused and not quite as warm as I imagined from Andy Serkis.

About the length: yeah, it feels too long but the problem isn't the third act. The third act is essential to Bruce's arc and actually becoming a more inspiring and hopeful version of Batman. If anything the finale feels rushed: the flood happens too fast and Riddler's incel followers could have used some more foreshadowing. If you were cutting anything it would be in the first two hours. I appreciated the detective noir feel, but some of it went on too long. Like it took about forty minutes to resolve the "flying rat" thing. The Batmobile scene is completely superfluous but it is fun. Didn't like the sequrl bait scene (which the director denies was sequel bait, but come on) with Joker #489.
 
I think you are spot on about the rushed ending. The Riddler’s mini-minion army just appearing out of nowhere was weird.

i really did like the Batmobile though. However after the batsuit flight and the Dukes of Hazzard jump, Bruce’s poor spine must be horribly compressed. Lol
 
STEPhon IT said:
I think Hollywood knows who their audience are for these things, when I was younger I saw "Batman" and it was quite Gothic but my dad and my brothers LOVED it, but for me the movie had and showed signs the sequel would be more uplifting...
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Not really sure what your issue with that film was. There was plenty of action and humor in it. Maybe it's dark if you compare it to the old T.V show but then Spider-man would be dark compared to that campy show.

Dear God I was wrong, I was terrified by the next one, Batman Returns... I don't think I finished watching it until I was 16 years old. It's frightening and the hero is killing the bad guys and the Penguin was biting peoples noses off and vomiting black... YUCK!
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I never found that movie frightening. I didn't read comics so I wasn't aware of the comic violations that the Burton films committed until I got older. In my view, Batman was killing people who were trying to kill him. Not much different than watching Arnold or Stallone mowing down bad guys, Han shooting Greedo under the table or Jabba getting strangled by Leia. I was use to heroes killing the bad guys and not crying about it. What can I say? I grew up in the 80s.

The other two movies were dark but had a more sexual undertones in there which fit the weirdness I thought,...
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Huh? There was nothing dark about Batman Forever and Batman & Robin was jut a silly light hearted pun fest so that they could sell toys to kids. It was the ultimate mindless, kiddy flick.

and then came BB. A movie where Bruce Wayne goes into a court room and wants to shoot the killer of his parents and then be trained by bad guys???
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Um.... okay. He wanted to kill the guy who shot his parents in cold blood(like most people who loved their parents would), but as the character grows he learns that isn't the way and once he finds out what the league of shadow's agenda is he leaves. He then makes not taking a life his one rule and that one rule is what separates him from everyone else. That was the entire point behind the Nolan Trilogy. it was the most faithful adaption to the past 30 or so years of Batman comics.

I heard the same hope the movies would take a different path but Hollywood never does,
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Each director has brought his own vision to the films. None of them have been the same to each other. Burton films are nothing like Schumacher films which are nothing like Nolan films which are nothing like the Reeves film. Every take on Batman has been different.

we got Zack Snyder's Batman where he kills people like Jason Voorhees and in his JL movie he says something like "skull f'ing the Joker" OMG,
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I missed the part where Batman was hunting down horny teenagers and decapitating them. Must have been a version I missed.

it is what it is and I personally doubt they'll ever go in a direction I find faithful to the character.
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There have been many versions of batman in comics. Everyone has their favorite.

At least I have TAS, the Brave & the Bold, Adam West, and the new Caped Crusader coming out this Fall on HBOMAX.
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So you have all those options and the rest of us have the live action versions to enjoy. Sounds pretty balance to me.
 
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M'rk son of Mogh said:
I'd love to see him take on his usual rogues that are for some reason ignored for the movies and shows. Just leave Joker, Riddler, 2 Face, Bane and Penguin alone PLEASE.

Heck, even put Kite Man on screen and I'll be shouting "Hell yeah!" with him!
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After seeing his take on Riddler, I'd LOVE to see Matt Reeves' version of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow or Hush. I'd leave Joker for the last movie though.
 
urbandefault said:
It kept me engaged the whole time (and I waited as long as I could before running out for a short break). My only real complaint is that I waited to see the post credit scene, which was a bit of a letdown.
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Yeah, that post-credits "scene" was a huge disappointment.
 
It was a very blunt knife of a movie. I did appreciate the different angle that it was all about Batman and less about Bruce Wayne. I did like the upside shot of Batman walking to Penguin and Penguin simply being a hoodlum. Catwoman did steal the show although it's hard to do things about Batman given that the realistic angle has been done before.
 
There's already that prequel novel, Before The Batman, that CBR got quite a lot of clickbait articles out of. Anybody here read it? Worth a go?
 
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