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The Bad Science of Voyager

So, someone wanted to do a thread about the bad science of "Star Trek Discovery" and has now decided to one about the bad science of "Star Trek Voyager".

Are there plans to pursue the same topic about the other Trek shows? Or is this all about how the only two female-led shows are terrible?
 
So, someone wanted to do a thread about the bad science of "Star Trek Discovery" and has now decided to one about the bad science of "Star Trek Voyager".

I am not the same person as ISS_Einstein.

Are there plans to pursue the same topic about the other Trek shows?
Yes, though they are dependent on the success of this thread.

Is this all about how the only two female-led shows are terrible?

No. That never even occurred to me.
 
Are there plans to pursue the same topic about the other Trek shows? Or is this all about how the only two female-led shows are terrible?

I'd just like to point out that the following quote is from the very first post in this thread:

I will attempt similar threads for each of the other series in turn, where members can list what they think are the most egregious examples of bad science in the franchise.
 
Yes, though they are dependent on the success of this thread.

But a similar thread for "Discovery" was already tried and it failed. Why bother doing one for "Voyager" and the other Trek shows?:shrug:
 
But a similar thread for "Discovery" was already tried and it failed. Why bother doing one for "Voyager" and the other Trek shows?:shrug:

There's a simple solution to your problem: If you don't like it, don't post in it. Assuming everyone thinks the same way you do, the thread will die in its infancy. Problem solved!
 
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Really? REALLY? :vulcan:

I don't know if it's necessarily bad science but why is everything in Voyager "Iso-" something or other. Even when they travel back to the 90's Henry Starling had invented ISOgrated circuits NOT integrated circuits.
You can also reverse the polarity. That usually helps.
 
Really? REALLY? :vulcan:

I don't know if it's necessarily bad science but why is everything in Voyager "Iso-" something or other. Even when they travel back to the 90's Henry Starling had invented ISOgrated circuits NOT integrated circuits.

Well the prefix "Iso-" comes from Greek and means "the same", so that means that everything is the same!!!:D
 
Bad science abounds in many Sci-Fi works. The more you use bad science or pseudo-science in a work the more open it can become to criticism and perhaps derision. Those factors can be compounded to a degree by how much enjoyment an individual is getting from that particular work, i.e. the more you are enjoying something the more willing you can be to overlook certain aspects, the less you are enjoying it the more those aspects can come to light.

Ones perception of how much each show used the aforementioned bad science or pseudo-science might vary from person to person but some might argue that each show successive show used it more and more.
 
You can also reverse the polarity. That usually helps.

No, no. The hull could collapse from the gravimetric shear.

Maybe a neutronic pulse or a tetrion beam from the deflector array.

Then, ionize the hull plating an enter the sub space corridor.

Shut the door behind you, and proceed at 3/4 impulse to the quantum singularity and fire a full spread of cornbread muffins.

The resulting pulsar will go supernova. Proceed to the third wormhole and plant a trilithium photonic charge in a paper bag, and set it on fire. Then, take the catapult into fluidic space. It’s warm there.

Set down on the ice planet, cuz the A/C just broke. Set up in the caves, and start a fire with your hair, and hum.

Then.

Everyone falls asleep. Somnambulant beings emerge from the subconscious universe and shave everyone smooth. The smoothness
results in an intergalactic flare that melts the ice pack and shifts the tectonic substrate to liquidity.

Everyone wakes up in their quarters.

Reset.
 
I think it was in a first or second season where there was talk about there beeing "a hole in the event horizon" of a quantum singularity....
 
I think it was in a first or second season where there was talk about there beeing "a hole in the event horizon" of a quantum singularity....
It was in Parallax, the second story.

SFDebris probably gave the best analogy: Put ten gallons of fuel in the tank of a car that gets 30mpg. Draw a circle around the car with a 300 mile radius. Drive the car in a straight line. The engine will die when the car reaches the boundary. Voyager's writers thought you could drive further on by rubbing out part of the circle.
 
It was in Parallax, the second story.

SFDebris probably gave the best analogy: Put ten gallons of fuel in the tank of a car that gets 30mpg. Draw a circle around the car with a 300 mile radius. Drive the car in a straight line. The engine will die when the car reaches the boundary. Voyager's writers thought you could drive further on by rubbing out part of the circle.
I really liked that analogy. VOY demonstrated a lot of odd science that was similar, where if we can make up some analogy then it will all make sense.

My personal favorite is figuring out language and the use of "remodulation." In one episode, Janeway orders Harry to "remodulate the universal translator" after remarking that the language must be "so unlike ours" that the translator can't figure it out. So, what's remodulating going to do for it?
 
Next I nominate Scientific Method, in which the observing aliens print barcodes directly onto their subjects' DNA - which is like giving a raincloud a tattoo.
 
And he didn't become a lizard!

Neither did the Voth after transwarping. Well, perhaps also because they already were some kind of lizards to begin with.

No, but I think the "lizard" problem is not with Transwarp or warp 10 itself, just with the particular method they are using.
 
The problem with ST, in general, is some stupid generalizations, like DNA can survive anything! For example, in "Aquiel" the guy has been completely destroyed by a sustained phaser fire but somehow his DNA is STILL THERE!!! I mean DNA is an extremely complex molecule and therefore an extremely fragile one. Expecting DNA to survive these conditions is like thinking that a house of cards will hold in a hurricane!!
 
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