though polling does show that Labor will hold Eden-Monero with a 2.3% margin. Hopefull there will be enough of a swing in S.A that little buttmunch Christopher Pyne is turfed (his margin is 0.6% and he could of lost last time if Labor hadn't tried a celebrity candidate only to have a blow up in their faces while they pissed away a very good candidate a fairly safe Coalition seat).
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though polling does show that Labor will hold Eden-Monero with a 2.3% margin. Hopefull there will be enough of a swing in S.A that little buttmunch Christopher Pyne is turfed (his margin is 0.6% and he could of lost last time if Labor hadn't tried a celebrity candidate only to have a blow up in their faces while they pissed away a very good candidate a fairly safe Coalition seat).
Abbott on Q&A.
A sharp question was asked about the NBN, comparing it to the rollout of rail networks in the 19th Century. He managed to deliver a response htat gained some applause.
Myself, I think he's squirming, nut trying hard. Gillard was definitely more relaxed and a little more in touch with the audience. Abbott seems to be holding up, even if he's nervous.
(Jeeze he's a bloody wingnut, by physical appearance and mental approach.)
He said the Rudd Govt. stimulus scheme was 'not effective'. As a twit pointed out, other countries recognise that it was.
He's getting sharp questions about paid parental leave. Not fielding them so well.
He's saying the Howard Govt. didn't cut welfare. I don't know about that. Certainly didn't boost it against the CPI.
Ooo, just shot himself in the foot by saying that it's OK for the Libs to accept donations from Big Tobacco - "Yes, tobacco can kill, but so can alcohol and cars." Not good, the audience is less responsive after that.
It just finished. He did okay. Did he swing it in his favour? Well, he got some cheers. Did he do better than Gillard? To me, no, but others may want to chime in.
A sharp question was asked about the NBN, comparing it to the rollout of rail networks in the 19th Century. He managed to deliver a response htat gained some applause.
Myself, I think he's squirming, nut trying hard. Gillard was definitely more relaxed and a little more in touch with the audience. Abbott seems to be holding up, even if he's nervous.
(Jeeze he's a bloody wingnut, by physical appearance and mental approach.)
He said the Rudd Govt. stimulus scheme was 'not effective'. As a twit pointed out, other countries recognise that it was.
He's getting sharp questions about paid parental leave. Not fielding them so well.
He's saying the Howard Govt. didn't cut welfare. I don't know about that. Certainly didn't boost it against the CPI.
Ooo, just shot himself in the foot by saying that it's OK for the Libs to accept donations from Big Tobacco - "Yes, tobacco can kill, but so can alcohol and cars." Not good, the audience is less responsive after that.
It just finished. He did okay. Did he swing it in his favour? Well, he got some cheers. Did he do better than Gillard? To me, no, but others may want to chime in.
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Not a fan of the solo-panel Qanda's, no matter who it is.
Critics of the Rooty Hill debate (where Abbott put in his best performance of the campaign) said the audience were packed with Liberal stooges. You certainly can't accuse tonight's audience of that
Not to seem unkind, but jeez I wish some of those audience members would cut to the chase with their questions. The ABC should be helping them edit their questions down.
Abbott strikes me as much more down to earth than Gillard in these situations. Rightly or wrongly, there is no dissembling, you get the feeling he has the courage of his convictions, and is almost a bit too honest for his own good.
The Liberal campaign bosses obviously think he looks best chatting with the punters, so Gillard only gets her debate on the economy tomorrow if there's another town hall style debate on Wednesday.
The ALP's campaign launch has come and gone without the leaker delivering the coup de grace via Laurie Oakes on tonight's news as some cynics were predicting, and the Latham 60 minutes piece and Van Rudd Australian Story appearance didn't cause any further damage.
There has been little poll movement. 2PP it looks like 52-48 to the ALP, which would wash out as a 20 seat ALP majority. Short of boat people flaring up as a major issue in the final days, you would think that she should get home, but I'm still not brave enough to call it. I live in Sydney and know how palpable sentiment is toward the dreadful state ALP government we have here. It has to have an impact on Saturday. Also, I am not sure Queenslanders have forgiven Gillard for Rudd's knifing.
In a nutshell, you rather be backing Gillard, but an Abbott win is still possible.
Critics of the Rooty Hill debate (where Abbott put in his best performance of the campaign) said the audience were packed with Liberal stooges. You certainly can't accuse tonight's audience of that
Not to seem unkind, but jeez I wish some of those audience members would cut to the chase with their questions. The ABC should be helping them edit their questions down.
Abbott strikes me as much more down to earth than Gillard in these situations. Rightly or wrongly, there is no dissembling, you get the feeling he has the courage of his convictions, and is almost a bit too honest for his own good.
The Liberal campaign bosses obviously think he looks best chatting with the punters, so Gillard only gets her debate on the economy tomorrow if there's another town hall style debate on Wednesday.
The ALP's campaign launch has come and gone without the leaker delivering the coup de grace via Laurie Oakes on tonight's news as some cynics were predicting, and the Latham 60 minutes piece and Van Rudd Australian Story appearance didn't cause any further damage.
There has been little poll movement. 2PP it looks like 52-48 to the ALP, which would wash out as a 20 seat ALP majority. Short of boat people flaring up as a major issue in the final days, you would think that she should get home, but I'm still not brave enough to call it. I live in Sydney and know how palpable sentiment is toward the dreadful state ALP government we have here. It has to have an impact on Saturday. Also, I am not sure Queenslanders have forgiven Gillard for Rudd's knifing.
In a nutshell, you rather be backing Gillard, but an Abbott win is still possible.
Not a fan of the solo-panel Qanda's, no matter who it is.
Critics of the Rooty Hill debate (where Abbott put in his best performance of the campaign) said the audience were packed with Liberal stooges. You certainly can't accuse tonight's audience of that
Not to seem unkind, but jeez I wish some of those audience members would cut to the chase with their questions. The ABC should be helping them edit their questions down.
Abbott strikes me as much more down to earth than Gillard in these situations. Rightly or wrongly, there is no dissembling, you get the feeling he has the courage of his convictions, and is almost a bit too honest for his own good.
The Liberal campaign bosses obviously think he looks best chatting with the punters, so Gillard only gets her debate on the economy tomorrow if there's another town hall style debate on Wednesday.
The ALP's campaign launch has come and gone without the leaker delivering the coup de grace via Laurie Oakes on tonight's news as some cynics were predicting, and the Latham 60 minutes piece and Van Rudd Australian Story appearance didn't cause any further damage.
There has been little poll movement. 2PP it looks like 52-48 to the ALP, which would wash out as a 20 seat ALP majority. Short of boat people flaring up as a major issue in the final days, you would think that she should get home, but I'm still not brave enough to call it. I live in Sydney and know how palpable sentiment is toward the dreadful state ALP government we have here. It has to have an impact on Saturday. Also, I am not sure Queenslanders have forgiven Gillard for Rudd's knifing.
In a nutshell, you rather be backing Gillard, but an Abbott win is still possible.
It's come out that at least one person in the Q&A audience had a prior association with Abbott/is a coalition supporter and that one of the questions in the Rooty Hills forum came from the son of a former Liberal Party MP.
Has also been pointed out about how some of the questions that Abbott answered were in writing.
Now I read online comments form Coalition supporters asserting that Gillard knew in advance what the questions were citing what Tony Jones was writing as proof yet they're not saying anything about Abbott getting the questions in writing.
He's probably heard about the so called independant costing done on the Coalitions policies and election promises - basically they've use an accounting firm who've been working on costings for a couple of months now (so the question is asked whether the leak they complained about was actually orchestrated by the Coalition to give them an excuse not to follow their own legislation), the accounting firm has ties to the Liberal party, it worked purely on figures provided by the coalition and some assumptions were misrepresentated.
Fortunately for the Coalition the electrocni media blackout on advertising is now in force because Labor would crucifiy them in ads over this.
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Rear Admiral
Hmm, well I knew there was a reason I liked them.
As for The Advertiser, I was flipping through a copy whilst in line at the deli.
Voted yesterday. Greens for the Senate and Abbot for PM. That way no laws will get through.
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Rear Admiral
I prefer this one.
Incidentally, I loved the chamber graphics segment in the latest Yes we Canberra ep. Esp. the knifing.
Latest, and final Newspoll :
2PP : ALP 50 COAL 50
PV : ALP 36 COAL 43
And the final Nielsen :
2PP : ALP 52 COAL 48
PV : ALP 39 COAL ??
Those ALP primary votes look awfully low, they'll be nervous for sure.
The big circulation tabloids all backed Abbott, and momentum appears to be with the Libs.
The government looks in big, big trouble. They look set to lose a bag of seats, but will it be enough to get Abbott over the line for a famous win?
We might be in for a long night.
2PP : ALP 50 COAL 50
PV : ALP 36 COAL 43
And the final Nielsen :
2PP : ALP 52 COAL 48
PV : ALP 39 COAL ??
Those ALP primary votes look awfully low, they'll be nervous for sure.
The big circulation tabloids all backed Abbott, and momentum appears to be with the Libs.
The government looks in big, big trouble. They look set to lose a bag of seats, but will it be enough to get Abbott over the line for a famous win?
We might be in for a long night.
If the Coalition wins I think Australia is going to regret it very quickly. Abbott's nothing but a thug, his election promises will go out the window faster than a rabbit (their costings are rubbery and the whole leak and accountacy firm doing the costings was a stunt and the numbers don't add up) and services will go do as they slash and burn.
^ I thought about voting below, but this year voted above for the first time in a long time. The hardest thing was who to put last in House of Reps.
I voted at 10am.
I vote blow the line. It was a hard decision who to put in the last few places in the Senate as I had to choice between Family First, The Climate Skeptics and the Fishers and Shooters. I ended up putting Family First last.
I vote blow the line. It was a hard decision who to put in the last few places in the Senate as I had to choice between Family First, The Climate Skeptics and the Fishers and Shooters. I ended up putting Family First last.