How is it that there is no forum for Filmation's Animated Adventures of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek? Even a subforum of The Original Series would be better than nothing! I think this is an underrated show worthy of discussion, which the presence of its own forum would foster.
The Animated Series needs a forum
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It there were a serious enough amount of TAS discussion going on around here it would have its own forum. That it doesn't just means there isn't that much discussion of it going on. If anything, I'd say the new series is probably a higher priority at the moment for getting its own forum than TAS is.
I'm fine with TAS being discussed in the TOS forum. It's essentially a continuation of TOS, reuniting most of the cast and many of the creators and telling stories in the same format and setting. Although maybe it would help to retitle the forum as "Star Trek - Original and Animated Series" or something like that, just to make it clear that TAS discussion is welcome there.
That's not actually its name, just the title that was used on the original home-video release. The actual title of the animated series was just Star Trek.
That's not actually its name, just the title that was used on the original home-video release. The actual title of the animated series was just Star Trek.
In addition to getting a forum, I would like to see them re-do the animation for a DVD or blue-ray special release. Kind of like how they cleaned up the effects shots for the blu-ray version of the TOS episodes. I'd like to see some Clone Wars style animation set to the original soundtrack. I think it would be a worthy project, as Filmation didn't always have the greatest animation.
The only reason they "cleaned up" the FX for the TOS Blu-Ray is because they didn't have the original film elements for the FX and thus couldn't recomposite them to high-definition standards as they were able to do with the TNG Blu-Rays. I don't think the analogy holds here, because it's not just a few shots, it's the entire visual side of the work.
And, please, no 3D computer animation. That may be faddish today, but it's not intrinsically superior, any more than sculpture is superior to painting. It's just a different art style. And 3D is so pervasive and ordinary today that I don't see the artistic value. It would be sheer vandalism, like painting over one artist's work in a different artist's style.
The only way I'd ever consider a reanimation worthwhile is if it were in 2D and replicated Filmation's artistic style as much as possible, just with more fluid and less repetitive animation. I.e. basically on the level of Filmation's later film work like Flash Gordon: The Greatest Adventure of All or The Legend of BraveStarr -- the sort of thing they did at their best, when they had enough budget and time to do relatively full animation. Something that honored and enhanced the artistic style of the original rather than just tossing it out because it doesn't look like what's currently fashionable.
Christopher: "The only reason they "cleaned up" the FX for the TOS Blu-Ray is because they didn't have the original film elements for the FX"
While I respect your opinion (and Tomalak's) when my Dad watched the TOS blu-rays I got him it showed the original FX shots with a little icon in the corner. As I recall, they had it set up so you could view it as it was originally or you could choose to view it with their new FX shots. At least that's how his old magnavox blu-ray player handled it. I had to go into the menu and select the new shots to get rid of the icon.
I guess I wouldn't see anything wrong with offering a similar alternative to Filmation's original work. It wouldn't even have to be CGI, I would love to have an artist like Peter Chung or Genndy Tartakovsky try their hand at Star Trek. Even if it was just an alternate version of one or two episodes tucked away in the special features.
While I respect your opinion (and Tomalak's) when my Dad watched the TOS blu-rays I got him it showed the original FX shots with a little icon in the corner. As I recall, they had it set up so you could view it as it was originally or you could choose to view it with their new FX shots. At least that's how his old magnavox blu-ray player handled it. I had to go into the menu and select the new shots to get rid of the icon.
I guess I wouldn't see anything wrong with offering a similar alternative to Filmation's original work. It wouldn't even have to be CGI, I would love to have an artist like Peter Chung or Genndy Tartakovsky try their hand at Star Trek. Even if it was just an alternate version of one or two episodes tucked away in the special features.
I don't see the need to reanimate the series. The look of the series is part of its charm. I never understood tampering with the originals unless you have to. I remembering when colorizing old black and white shows was all the fad. Yuck! I want to preserve the original as much as possible in the original aired format! That is why I enjoyed the Lost in Space Blu-rays so much because select episode even had the original commercials in them as they originally aired! That rocked!
And most of those threads are a variation of "is TAS canon or not?"
I think it's fine with TOS. An entire forum or sub-forum dedicated to 22 half-hour episodes just doesn't seem equitable. It fits wonderfully in with the TOS discussions we have now.
Yeah. It's like rewriting Shakespeare in modern language, or replacing an antique marble statue with a 3-D printed polymer composite. There's nothing wrong with creating a modern work that's an interpretation of an older one, like West Side Story or Forbidden Planet for Shakespeare or Sherlock and Elementary for Sherlock Holmes, but those are meant to supplement the original work, not replace it.
I have a suggestion, Flogiston. When you get to the level that you can post Threads, consider opening a TAS Thread, and see if there is enough discussion to merit a Forum. I think you will find the Mods and Administrator very willing to consider a new Thread, if there is enough interest. I would love to contribute. It was a part of Star Trek, just like the other iterations!
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As you might imagine, this has been discussed many times over the years. There is not enough demand to warrant an entire forum for TAS. The proper place for TAS threads is in The Original Series Forum, and frankly I don't see that changing.
As for this thread, well... it could have gone into QSF I suppose, and given that it is not actually about the show, but about a forum for the show, I'm going to close this.
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