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The Animals That Aren't Dogs or Cats Thread

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Oh, there were a couple moments with the horses on Friday that were really cute that I forgot about before. One of the horses that I've kind of bonded with made me feel really bad, because went to leave because she was just standing there with her head over the fence staring at me. I literally went back to pet her "one last time" like three or four times.
And I also noticed that she was staring at my bike when I got on it, so I rolled it over by the fence, and she actually dropped her head down and started checking it out. I moved it back once she started trying to eat the tires through the fence.
 
Everybody loves noses.:lol:

These alpacas were very interested in the newest addition to their herd.
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Resist the urge Steve!
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It looks like the three mares at the stable are now four, the new one was out with them again this morning. I actually got to pet her (I think it's another mare) a little more today, and now that I've gotten a closer look, I'm thinking either a different breed from the others or young. Her head and face are smaller, and her body is thinner, but not skinny, it's just the way she's built, kind of like the difference between a greyhound and a pit bull.
Since she has a mix of white and dark hair, I'm thinking I'll call her Anna after Rogue aka Anna Marie from the X-Men.

THey've started rounding up horses in the Apache-Sitgreaves National FOrest here in AZ today, which is just completely unnecessary, and is pissing everyone who gives a damn about horses off. The Salt River Wild Horse Group has tried to talk them into doing the same birth control program they do with the Salt River Horses, but they absolutely refused to do it, and have now skipped over a whole bunch of steps that they're legally required to take, and were already supposed to be rounding up 20 out of the 400 today.
Since they're refusing to do the birth control, that means they're just going to keep having babies, and so they're going to have to keep going back and rounding them up again.
I don't know if I'd get in trouble for posting them here, but people have been posting the phone numbers of our governor and senators and asking people to please call them and ask them to stop the roundup. If anybody wants to call them, I can find the numbers and message them to you.
 
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JD said:
I don't know if I'd get in trouble for posting them here, but people have been posting the phone numbers of our governor and senators and asking people to please call them and ask them to stop the roundup.
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Probably not a good idea, it sounds like it would run afoul of the doxxing rule:

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No posting personal stuff of other people taken from other sites, including FB, Twitter, LJ pages or whatever, UNLESS they have given you permission. I don't care if it's publicly listed elsewhere. No doxxing.
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If it was the public contact line of the office of the senator or governor or whoever, that was intended for public use and available as contact number on a public government website, then that would presumably be fine, but listing non-public-use numbers for politicians would be a no-go.

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THey've started rounding up horses in the Apache-Sitgreaves National FOrest here in AZ today
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Dare I ask what happens after they are "rounded up"? Perhaps I'm naïve, but just rounding them up doesn't sound so bad in itself? If that many people are that upset about it though, should I assume that something is going to happen after they're rounded up that I will regret asking about? :(
 
Avro Arrow said:
Probably not a good idea, it sounds like it would run afoul of the doxxing rule:



If it was the public contact line of the office of the senator or governor or whoever, that was intended for public use and available as contact number on a public government website, then that would presumably be fine, but listing non-public-use numbers for politicians would be a no-go.
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I think they're public numbers, as far as I know they're the official phone numbers for their office, the ones that you're supposed to call whenever an issue comes up and people tell you to call you're local politician.


Dare I ask what happens after they are "rounded up"? Perhaps I'm naïve, but just rounding them up doesn't sound so bad in itself? If that many people are that upset about it though, should I assume that something is going to happen after they're rounded up that I will regret asking about? :(
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The main issue is just the fact that they're taking them off of land that they've been on for generations, when it's completely unnecessary. They're also bringing them down from the mountains into the valley, and the temperature difference can be fatal for them, and when they're down here they're going straight to a livestock auction where there's a pretty good chance they'll be bought by a kill buyer, who will then ship them to Mexico to be slaughtered. There is at least one rescues that's keeping track of things, so hopefully they'll be able to save at least some of the ones at the auction.

I had an interesting development with the Palomino mare I've been saying hi to on my bike rides. Her owner actually caught me petting her, and she said she's OK with me petting her as long as I don't feed her. I also found out her real name, but since she's not my horse I don't feel comfortable posting it.
And I had kind of a fun moment when I went past the stables before I talked to her owner. She was out by the front of the fence as I rode past on my bike, and she ran along the fence right with me, on the other side, and she was definitely doing on purpose, because when I sped up, she gave a little hop kick, and sped up enough to stay right alongside me.
 
JD said:
The main issue is just the fact that they're taking them off of land that they've been on for generations, when it's completely unnecessary. They're also bringing them down from the mountains into the valley, and the temperature difference can be fatal for them, and when they're down here they're going straight to a livestock auction where there's a pretty good chance they'll be bought by a kill buyer, who will then ship them to Mexico to be slaughtered. There is at least one rescues that's keeping track of things, so hopefully they'll be able to save at least some of the ones at the auction.
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Yes, I can see now why that's upsetting people. :( Hopefully the protests can result in a better outcome.
 
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Yes, I can see now why that's upsetting people. :( Hopefully the protests can result in a better outcome.
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Hopefully, but the fact that they broke the law to do this, and refused to consider an alternative that has been proven to work down along the Salt River are probably not good signs for their willingness to cooperate with the people trying to stop them.
 
Bonobos, our closest living relative, and IMO the coolest non-human species. They're smart enough to crew the Enterprise (theoretically; they have the cognitive ability of a 5-10 y/o, or so). I've seen a lot of misrepresentation of bonobos on TrekBBS, portraying them as mindless copulating animals.
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