The alien race you wished you'd seen

[commodore64]

I often wish they'd introduced the Betazoid or Ithanites on Enterprise.

It'd be cool to see the Betazoid because - like the Orion Slave Girls (although hopefully more interesting than Bound) - they would shake up the crew's perceptions. Also, it might be cool for the humans to meet a species that likes emotions and is just as wise as the Vulcans. I guess I just see potential there.

From TOS, I would've loved to have seen the Ithanites. Although I don't know this, I always imagine them as the little people from Journey to Babel. I thought it would be fun to have some connection to them and explanation.

What about you?

 

[JiNX-01]

I often wish they'd introduced the Betazoid or Ithanites on Enterprise.

It'd be cool to see the Betazoid because - like the Orion Slave Girls (although hopefully more interesting than Bound) - they would shake up the crew's perceptions. Also, it might be cool for the humans to meet a species that likes emotions and is just as wise as the Vulcans. I guess I just see potential there.

From TOS, I would've loved to have seen the Ithanites. Although I don't know this, I always imagine them as the little people from Journey to Babel. I thought it would be fun to have some connection to them and explanation.

What about you?

The Ioatians (the timing would have been right).

The NX-01 is dispatched to learn the fate of the Horizon a warp 2 ship that headed into deep space 4 years before Enterprise launched. A brief radio signal is received at Arecibo indicating the Horizon was in trouble and providing an approximate position.

Enterprise finds the wreckage of the ship and a "black box" device that has the ship's log. There's mention of a planet named Iotia not far from the site of the disaster.

Archer heads there. T'Pol advises him to take great care in his interactions with the natives because there is no way of knowing whether the Horizon was destroyed as a consequence of their landing here. Archer sees "The Book" but thinks nothing of it.

We'd get to see their society before the contamination took hold.

 

[pookha]

^^ they would have to keep who they really were from the iotians but it is pretty clear in piece of action that the next contact was kirk's enterprise.

there is wiggle room with some other contact situations but not so much here.
though yeah it would have been fun to have seen what they were like before the book contaminated their culture.

the betazaids make sense since they are supposed to be pretty close to earth and the other primary planets.

maybe see some other presever planets.

more of the tholians.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Definitely Betazoids. They solve certain canonical problems bringing the Earth/Romulan War to a close. Their telepathy over great distances make them handy in certain circumstances and it gets around face to face negotiations, especially if Remans are the message receivers. That leads to kind of a stalemate situation, where each side knows the other's next move. Somewhere in Seasons 6 or 7, first contact could be made because their world is next in the firing line, after the fall of Denobula.

 

[Frodo Lives]

The Betazoids would have been great to see, but I'd have also liked to have seen the Trill, Bolians (maybe actually find something out about their society), and of course, old Arex's folks, the Edosians! Man, seeing a CGI one of those would give me goosebumps.

 

[Vastator]

I think perhaps more of the TOS era aliens to better establish them. I think early Enterprise had this tendency to almost ignore TOS era stuff and instead show TNG era like Ferengi before they were ever originally encountered or the Borg. It was kind of why I liked it when we saw the Orions and the Orion Syndicate... made a perfect merger between TNG and TOS era stuff.

 

[C.E. Evans]

The Bajorans.

Perhaps in the 22nd-Century they were a very prosperous, if not hedonistic society that even looked down on Humans. Maybe the episode could have ended with the arrival of a Cardassian ambassador on Bajor...

 

[DarKush]

1. Cardassians (replacing the Illyrians in "Damage")
2. Deltans
3. Denebians, or at least a Denebian slime devil
4. Caitians
5. Edoans

 

[commodore64]

Does anyone know why Roddenberry didn't make Deanna Troi a Deltan? They seem to have many of the same qualities, except Betazoids have more hair.

 

[pookha]

Does anyone know why Roddenberry didn't make Deanna Troi a Deltan? They seem to have many of the same qualities, except Betazoids have more hair.

like what.
the deltans were like pure sexuality so much so they had to take a vow of chasity.
the betzoids were telepaths who while they seem open about their sexuality are not sexual magnets.,

back to other aliens..
Caitian and Edoans would have been great and they would have had the
ability now to show them live action.
really several of the races from the animated show could have appeared .
but one favorite would have to bring in the puppeteers along with the kzinti since there was a rumor they were in talks with niven about doing a kzin show.

 

[commodore64]

Deltans have telepathic abilities. And they only take chastity oaths b/c they are so sexual.

Betazoid are sexual, but don't have the advanced sexuality of Deltans (therefore not required to take celibacy oaths). They are telepathic and empathic.

Even the story of the Deltan in ST I and Deanna/Riker's story seems similar to me.

 

[Trippy]

^pretty sure Roddenberry modelled Riker after Decker too

 

[ChristopherPike]

^ Add that both had the same bizarre slow accent (well, Troi did have to begin with).

Ithanites? Weren't they those short guys in fezs and glittery make up? Rumour has it, Simon Pegg's Scotty is being teamed up with one of those.

 

[Unicron]

I would have liked to see the Romulans used, at least for the war, and also more of the Tellarites. I think ENT did a nice job with the Andorians.

 

[pookha]

^pretty sure Roddenberry modelled Riker after Decker too

yeah some of the series that was partly developed but never done would appear later in the movie and influenced tng.

i still dont see the deltans as overtly telepathic like a full blood betazoid.
it certainly come across in the movie more like empathy.

 

[Reanok]

Romulans and the the events that lead to the earth/ Romulan wars.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Lectroids and Sleestacks

 

[Nebusj]

Does anyone know why Roddenberry didn't make Deanna Troi a Deltan? They seem to have many of the same qualities, except Betazoids have more hair.

Partly, I suppose, because making Troi a Deltan would make the reuse of the Decker/Ilia backstory too strong to ignore. (I don't fault them trying to reuse the backstory, mind you: it wasn't really used in The Motion Picture, and it's not a bad storyline to set up, even if it didn't get really used in The Next Generation either.)

And as a practical matter keeping Marina Sirtis shaved for a series that might run the better part of a decade -- not to mention shaving anyone who might appear as a guest-starring Deltan like, say, Majel Barret -- becomes a frustrating production limitation. You can get away with shaving everyone for a movie, but do that for seven years and you start to get rebellions.

Then too part of the original design of The Next Generation was to get away from things that too much echoed the Original Series: no Vulcans as regular characters, no Chief Engineer, no Science Officer, Klingons as Federation members. Avoiding the species that had got renown in Trek fandom was part of the way to get cultural distance from what had gone before. If we weren't going to see Andorians, Tellarites, or those Gold Munchkins, we weren't going to see Deltans either.

That this adds another species to the Trek universe is a good side benefit: The Galaxy Has More Than Five People In It. So Betazeds and Deltans look awfully similar to our eyes. From as far away as the United States, the Belgians and the Dutch look mighty similar too.

 

[cooleddie74]

As someone said above, more Romulans and the beginning of the Earth-Romulan War(ca. 2156-60). Plus, more of the eerie and creepy "Silent Enemy" aliens would have been a real treat.

 

[Therin of Andor]

From TOS, I would've loved to have seen the Ithanites. Although I don't know this, I always imagine them as the little people from Journey to Babel.

That was precisely Manny Coto's plan for their appearance in "Terra Prime".

The makeup, and/or employing "little people" actors, was deemed "too expensive" after all the other aliens.