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That Starbase 11 wall chart - noe in slide form

I guess this is where some remarks about quality of data are appropriate. JPEG images like those available at TrekCore use lossy compression which can distort data somewhat. For most accurate results, we need to be looking at raw frame grabs. A confounding factor is that data on Blu-rays is already subject to lossy compression, so taking a frame grab and converting it to a JPEG can compound the errors. This is a significant issue when we're relying on artifacts at the pixel level and on comparisons with other parts of the image.

If data subject to lossy compression is all we have to work with, then the only possible way to improve the quality of data is not to study single stills, but to study all of the available frames in the period of time that the chart is visible in the episode.
 
I do plan on getting it over to HK to have the frame made into an image. I will still keep a lookout for additional Lincoln Enterprises strips. Again, I'm just looking at it with the tools I have.
 
Also, I would like to point out, that is the remaster version. Okuda had his hans on it and could have been edited post production. This is an original image from the 60s
 
@CorporalCaptain That's some pretty perfectly symmetrical distortion...I mean, it managed to extend the middle horizontal bar of the so-called 3 just enough to match those added curves to close the 8 while somehow not distorting the Cs, the 6 or the 5.
 
BK613 said:
Oh, I know what you meant but given that the images posted for arriving at 1635 also give us 170C for the number under it instead of 1700...well, I'm still not buying it.
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There is a scratch over the 1700 If I remember. Again please take this at face value currently. Only thing I will say is that 1864 is definitely not correct and it's 1654. People have always asked for answers about the chart, my goal is to try and give some answers after 50+ years. It's still going to split the fandom i think due to the remastered version and potential of what this might show. I'm just trying to give meaningful insight in what I see.
 
FYI, we can remove one level of compounding compression by just screen grabbing from bluray to a lossless format like PNG instead of JPG. That way you're just left with the h264 compression from bluray.
 
blssdwlf said:
FYI, we can remove one level of compounding compression by just screen grabbing from bluray to a lossless format like PNG instead of JPG. That way you're just left with the h264 compression from bluray.
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My memory is starting to go, but I could swear someone here did BR caps before.
 
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